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 Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 1:28 am
while it would be fun I would hate for it to become the n00b army of choice. With a bunch of little screwheads running around saying "feth". I personally would go for som plastic Valhallans or even steel legion. Since I want steel legionaires for my Inquisitorial Requisitioned Guard and the Valhallans could finally help me finish my Soviet Army. I could use the metal boys as Vets and whatnot
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:00 am
Lt. Brookman You need to remember that each Codex centres around one army as a focus (Cadians, Ultra Marines, T'au, Black Legion, etc.) for the material. While I've heard plenty of people complain about the whole compressing things into one book deal, it actually works and most people are creative enough to create their own regiment and get it to work. All in all, I'd personally be happier if GW or FW spent some time revising some of the old Guard mini lines first before plunging into a new project. Valhallans are very popular so plastics would do them great justice. FW should consolidate on their old projects first before going ahead with the new stuff, as we're still waiting for the Valkyrie airborne assault carrier! All in all, GW and FW have churned out eleven regiments: - Cadians - Catachans - Valhallans - Mordians - Praetorians - Armageddon - Vostroyans - Krieg - Elysians - Tallarn - Tanith (an iffy point, as only ten models were released for this line, a waste!)
There's also the Vraksians.
-Mykal
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 11:48 am
Not sure what to make of the Vraks / renegade militia, IA V will most likely tell.
The Tanith wont be getting new models, plus the Verghast wear the same uniforms as the ghosts if you've read the novels properly. The Gaunts Ghosts range was a waste in my eyes, nice minis but only TEN were released, far from enough to create an army for yourself.
It would do the range good to have a third plastic regiment about and thus far, Valhallans are one of the more popular old metal regiments. Steel Legion wont be done in plastic as they are quite new compared to the old lines of Mordians, Tallarn and Valhallans.
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:41 pm
Okay, I know I forgot the Vostroyans, but I'm not sure who the other army I forgot is...
Anyway, I'm going to have to agree that both the Valhallans and the Steel Legion would do nicely in plastics (ie: cheaper). As per the Tanith, remember that the Steel Legion only had about fifteen models, maybe two or three more, and that's hard to base an army around. However, that is a Hell of a lot better than ten, especially considering that SL has heavy and special weapons.
Something else I've noticed is that it seems as if the Catachans are loosing peoples interest. I've seen a lot of Catachan armies for sale on Ebay, and no one has bough the battleforce from my local store in about a year. It seems that they're loosing ground to more heavily clothed armies.
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Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 12:56 pm
Xenos Mortium Okay, I know I forgot the Vostroyans, but I'm not sure who the other army I forgot is... Anyway, I'm going to have to agree that both the Valhallans and the Steel Legion would do nicely in plastics (ie: cheaper). As per the Tanith, remember that the Steel Legion only had about fifteen models, maybe two or three more, and that's hard to base an army around. However, that is a Hell of a lot better than ten, especially considering that SL has heavy and special weapons. Something else I've noticed is that it seems as if the Catachans are loosing peoples interest. I've seen a lot of Catachan armies for sale on Ebay, and no one has bough the battleforce from my local store in about a year. It seems that they're loosing ground to more heavily clothed armies.
Catachans are a tad too specialised. You can't really put them in an urban environment. They're not that versatile.
Valhallans have a lot of similarities to the Vostroyans (Russians) so I doubt they'll be made Plastic. I think Tallarn would do well, as they can be urban, temperate, or desert. They can even suit an ice world, if you paint them right. I'd do Tallarn if they were plastic, just get rid of the Aladdin swords and give them normal Power Swords.
-Mykal
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Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:20 pm
GW loves to stereotype from time to time, so should the Tallarn ever be redone by either GW or FW, you can bet on it that those things will be there.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:56 am
Lt. Brookman GW loves to stereotype from time to time, so should the Tallarn ever be redone by either GW or FW, you can bet on it that those things will be there.
Or yeah, I'd just get rid. They're too Aladdin for me.
-Mykal
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:30 am
Well guys, I screwed up big time.
A while back, I bought a cadian shock troop squad without the codex. I made four flamers and three grenadiers, and then lost 5 lasgunner models.
Now I'm gonna need to spend more money just to be LEGAL... 70$ at least, and even then, I will be stretching it...
I still need my HQ and the command squads for my infantry choices- 15 units!
And Im not sure if only two guys can take flamers/grenade launchers, or if its as many as you want. Not quite clear on that.
Any help appreciated, on that.
So yeah, I screwed up, but nothing another squad of cadians and a squad of catachans wont fix!
that way, I should have enough to supply all my units with their respective commands.
and this Kinda bites because right off the bat I bought a tank... I believe it was with the codex or after...
But now I wont have to worry about heavy support for a while...
My only opponent is going to be Tau, and even then, He has yet to get his first models. I'll help him out a bit there. I'll be going to the store with him and yadda yadda yadda and hopefully our first game after we finish modelling.
Anyway, back to the point,
Though I didnt start off well, it IS fixable by next birthday. and, I helped two friends get off to awesome starts!
Win/win
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OOOooook, I saw no point to that ramble, but reply with advice or comments to anything better. or just tell me how much my mind meanders when I dont think too hard. rofl
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:07 pm
Buy a fecking codex and we'll talk again. Seriously, get a codex first.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:29 pm
Ditto with Brookman. How stupid do you have to be to think that a basic unit would contain more than one or two special weapons. Learn something and then come back.
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Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:57 pm
Tech Magos Sejanus Ditto with Brookman. How stupid do you have to be to think that a basic unit would contain more than one or two special weapons. Learn something and then come back. Nanana, don't berate the intellect of a user, that is my job. It is a basic rule of 40k: don't start without a codex, it is a bare essential of the army, any army for that matter.
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:30 am
I started without the Codex but then I started small. I built a Leman Russ a Sergeant, Two Lasgun troopers and a Flamer. I had read the codex but I didnt quite grasp the concepts it contained yet.
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:38 am
Still, a codex is the first step in the long way to getting an army up and at them.
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:47 pm
Mat I started without the Codex but then I started small. I built a Leman Russ a Sergeant, Two Lasgun troopers and a Flamer. I had read the codex but I didnt quite grasp the concepts it contained yet. the guard got a somewhat odd organization to them, you should take a good look through that codex and understand how the platoons and HQ work. and you're gonna need a lot more guardsmen than that. expect to have 50 soldiers in your army at the very bare minimum. (80 to 100 is generally better IMHO)
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:59 pm
Nuclearwinter Mat I started without the Codex but then I started small. I built a Leman Russ a Sergeant, Two Lasgun troopers and a Flamer. I had read the codex but I didnt quite grasp the concepts it contained yet. the guard got a somewhat odd organization to them, you should take a good look through that codex and understand how the platoons and HQ work. and you're gonna need a lot more guardsmen than that. expect to have 50 soldiers in your army at the very bare minimum. (80 to 100 is generally better IMHO) note the past tense. I beleive you are the only one here who mistakes me for a n00b to the game on a regular basis. I have nearly 4000 points of guard, and 1000 points of near pure sisters witch hunters. Why until I left Iraq this time I was a freakin mod here. Do not make this mistake again, as I have done my best to refrane from using harse language despite the enormus amount of pain im currently in.
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