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 Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:32 pm
*sigh* Okay, people. I certainly didn't want people to hate me this early... it's getting annoying and depressing. I may as well change my character altogether at this point...
Hoshimi... Alcyone... and just about anyone else remotely involved now consider me something less than cool...
[/my pointless rant, that obviously seems true enough.] xp
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:39 pm
Just because our characters see you as soemthing less than cool doesn't mean we hate you hun....or even that our characters might...i can'ts speak for alcyone but Hoshimi is scared of you, then again she is scared of most everyone since this is her first time out in the world. Hell the only person she is even close to liking is Espa due to saving her and not frightening her and Sol, because she asmires the way he respects the spirits.
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:47 pm
Nye... I'll just say this outright:
People don't hate your characters. People don't hate you. People hate when the two meet.
You have a problem with diving in headfirst to everything... You do a scene then ask if it was okay, when what you should have done was ask permission to meddle first. You make assumptions about other people's characters without talking to them, and that just makes you look like an a** and someone who doesn't pay attention... and most of all, your characters all end up being self-rightious PRICKS... and nobody likes that kind of perosn.
Character: "I have morals, thus I will confront you with them. I now challenge you to a fight. Oh, no! Something went wrong! Now I must be depressive and introspective because I failed and it must mean there's something deeply wrong with my entire personality!"
It gets old after the 4th character that does it. :sigh:
*Hugs Nye.* We like YOU... you're just... the only thing I can really say is that you're trying TOO HARD to fit in.
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:52 pm
Hmm.. it somehow sounds.. worse when you put it that way. *sigh*
But you do have a point. I'll hang back for a while... probably just sit here and lurk until something actually goes right for once. Sure a post here and there, but nothing much. xp
My people have way too many faults... sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:58 pm
I know it sounds worse when I put it that way, but it's supposed to... that sthe 'straight out, no bullshit' answer.
When I say you're trying a little too hard, I mean it... I mean, look at all your characters, and how they interact with people? You hang back, make commentary on a situation like some objective observer, and usually get everything wrong since you say it with a horribly biased opinion, and that just makes it all the more annoying because when it's said, it comes off like the guy's trying to claim himself as Confucious or something. Zen mastery of all infinite truths in the universe...
I mean, honestly... would some zen master monk who has a philosophy of pacifism unless it's required that he act on a threat be picking on some battered little girl and chasing her across the city?
From what I'm seeing, you scared the bajeesus out of that girl...
...and don't get me started on what the hell that Casino crap was. I mean, you ******** YOURSELF over in that one by announcing over the PA that your dealers were ******** lazy dumbasses and got jacked for 16k.
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 11:02 pm
Look... drop that one. stare
I've already been shown for what I am... it doesn't need to get worse. In any case, I guess I should just shut up and watch... I don't wanna get into it with anyone, least of all you. Sorry about everything.
And honestly, I wish the Hoshimi incident had gone differently. But it's done, and over with. And I feel like s**t already, now that I look at it. So then, let's just stop here, okay? 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 11:11 pm
Look...
...remember how I've been picking on you since October? Remember? ::nudge::
I do this. You said you had a problem, I swamp you with stuff. If you want me to be nice, I'll be nice... I'd rather be harsh right now and just say what I need to say.
If you want me to offer advice, I'll do that. Though... jeesus ********, you know what? I seriously don't need this.
You've been a self-loathing pitty-whore for as long as I've known you. Here's some advice I can give: Stop asking if you're good enough. Stop pretending like you need to improve to be worthy. Stop trying to measure up to other people's standards, and just, for the love of god, be you.
I don't care what that you is. I don't care if I hate the you. If you're happy being you, then be you. If you're not happy being you, then find a different you that makes you happy and be THAT.
I'm not going to suffer some guilt trip because I made you feel bad about yourself, because I just don't ******** care anymore. I've tried to help you for a year already, and I'm seeing the same problems over and over again, simply because you're playing out a fantasy and you know it as that... a FANTASY. You're in a dream world... true, this is all make believe, but it's simply putting yourself in someone else's skin and acting out what they would do and say in a situation... It's not a fairy tale, there's no princess to save or monster to slay... You're the guy on the corner with the gimp leg that's collecting change from passers by so you can get a cup of coffee... You're the kid riding on the back of that textile cart on the bumpy road through the marketplace, and when it hit a pothole you lost a copper out of your pocket and had to jump down to find it before anyone else did...
Not alwasy dragonslaying or saving the day... not always being the hero or the villain... just a person.
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 11:47 pm
crying *applauds* crying
that was stated beutifully jello. absolutely wonderfully. I actually think I learned some stuff from it myself. bravo.
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 11:50 pm
In other words, just let things happen. Maybe that's the way that one would put it.
*shrugs* Whatever. I'll do just that. And in order to do so, the best thing to do right now would be to stay out of things for a while. I don't know if it's the right idea, but it sure as hell sounds good to me.
Hmph... self-loathing, huh? *smirks* Guess that would be the word for it. Though I'm not looking for pity. It's just how I am sometimes. But you're right about the hero and villian part... I'll just back off, then. That way, I'm out of your hair, and you're just free to do what you do.
*Sits there and pretends he never said anything.*
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 11:50 pm
*prods Magus* don't encourage him, he doesn't need a bigger ego sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 11:52 pm
Indeed.. I think I made the mistake of giving it a boost. I think. sweatdrop
Or maybe that's just me. *Shrugs and sits on a nearby couch, sorry for what he said earlier.*
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2004 11:56 pm
Lao Fei Zhu *Sits there and pretends he never said anything.* *Wanders over and sits down next to him, offering him a swig from the jar of cinnimon applesauce he's drinking.* Look, bud... you know me... I can blow up at times, especially when I'm frustrated. I don't mean any offense, dawg, but... I say things harshly... a lot. *Hugs the brotha'.* Though I dunno what to say. Wind down and go with the flow? It helps if you can really just... be... the character. Not trying to make him seem cool or dramatic... not bending him to your ideal of what you think he should do... just partition your conciousness for a minute and as him what he would do... then have him do what he would do. Don't pretend that it has to be something, don't entertain thoughts that a person is who they aren't... You are you, he is he, and you are simply the person with the keyboard. The character writes the post through you, don't try and restrict him, just let him be who he is... ...in that way... you can get a truly organic responce...
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 12:00 am
Blissful Kitten *prods Magus* don't encourage him, he doesn't need a bigger ego sweatdrop I just calls it like I sees it ^_^ although you're right about the ego bit... xp
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 12:02 am
Yeah, I need to change my sig again. xd
This one was entertaining for a moment, but... :shrug:
*Goes to dig through photobucket.*
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Posted: Sun Sep 26, 2004 12:03 am
What, even if he's prone to look like he's asleep most of the time? xp
Anyway, that's a good idea. For once...
I just wish I could do that without getting him killed...
*Takes a swig of the cinnamon applesauce and smiles.* Good stuff. 3nodding
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