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RanmaxHikaru

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:51 pm


Amylin
soadshuyin
Amylin
RanmaxHikaru


Yeah that gave me an idea to put Property of Vincent Valentine and Squall Longheart on mt gene shorts heart blaugh

Longheart? I could've swore it was Leonhart.
Shhh....her thoughts are mixing if you catch my drift. wink
rofl rofl heart


Opps my bad sweatdrop I was so into the Clotif thing that I spelled his name wrong. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 10:35 pm


RanmaxHikaru
Amylin
soadshuyin
Amylin
RanmaxHikaru


Yeah that gave me an idea to put Property of Vincent Valentine and Squall Longheart on mt gene shorts heart blaugh

Longheart? I could've swore it was Leonhart.
Shhh....her thoughts are mixing if you catch my drift. wink
rofl rofl heart


Opps my bad sweatdrop I was so into the Clotif thing that I spelled his name wrong. sweatdrop


Shuyin Bro, care to shed some light on the Longheart joke and how they mix together? I be hella retarded....

Oh.. This picture, just so deep, so powerful... *sigh*

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I am amazed nobody bought it at the convention she was at. Very beautiful picture, man

Jhay-R


RanmaxHikaru

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 11:14 pm


Well I did mess up the spelling on his name, however I think he may like to poke fun at me because of the fights between me and Ess Tii Eph Yue (AKA total b***h) on the "The bad and the hated: Which games/characters suck?" thread. people like her and QuistisTrepe19 only seem to be on that thread to make put downs on other peoples views and opinions. I was planing on making a really great essay on why Aeris sucks but then they started teasing me behind my back, saying stuff like "Oh I bet you five gold she wont be back." and "Yeah she'll probably come back with some crap she pulled out of the Internet a**." Anyway I realized that, even if I did write a great and logical essay on "Why Aeris Sucks", people like them would be to stupid and juvenile to admit they were wrong. So I decided to forget it and not play into their game. I'm not saying this is the reason for the joke but it could be confused
PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 11:16 pm


Oh yeah sorry Jhay-R. I really love the color work in that picture it's just that their faces look a little weird. Other then that I absolutely love it. heart

RanmaxHikaru

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Amylin

PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 7:46 am


RanmaxHikaru
Well I did mess up the spelling on his name, however I think he may like to poke fun at me because of the fights between me and Ess Tii Eph Yue (AKA total b***h) on the "The bad and the hated: Which games/characters suck?" thread. people like her and QuistisTrepe19 only seem to be on that thread to make put downs on other peoples views and opinions. I was planing on making a really great essay on why Aeris sucks but then they started teasing me behind my back, saying stuff like "Oh I bet you five gold she wont be back." and "Yeah she'll probably come back with some crap she pulled out of the Internet a**." Anyway I realized that, even if I did write a great and logical essay on "Why Aeris Sucks", people like them would be to stupid and juvenile to admit they were wrong. So I decided to forget it and not play into their game. I'm not saying this is the reason for the joke but it could be confused
Really? Cause that's not the reason I laughed at the joke. ninja
PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 10:12 am


Amylin
RanmaxHikaru
Well I did mess up the spelling on his name, however I think he may like to poke fun at me because of the fights between me and Ess Tii Eph Yue (AKA total b***h) on the "The bad and the hated: Which games/characters suck?" thread. people like her and QuistisTrepe19 only seem to be on that thread to make put downs on other peoples views and opinions. I was planing on making a really great essay on why Aeris sucks but then they started teasing me behind my back, saying stuff like "Oh I bet you five gold she wont be back." and "Yeah she'll probably come back with some crap she pulled out of the Internet a**." Anyway I realized that, even if I did write a great and logical essay on "Why Aeris Sucks", people like them would be to stupid and juvenile to admit they were wrong. So I decided to forget it and not play into their game. I'm not saying this is the reason for the joke but it could be confused
Really? Cause that's not the reason I laughed at the joke. ninja


That is true but, soadshuyin could still harbor some ill will toward me, if he happens to agree with the two people I have mentioned. From what I have seen soadshuyin seems to be a very nice, reasonable, mature, guy but I can't say that for sure because I don't know him personally. I mean he very well could have made a joke about my spelling error, because he saw an opportunity to be mean to me with out looking like a jerk to everyone. Anyway weather he doesn't like me or not I kind of wish he would post here more often, because I know he's a Clotif fan, and I think he could contribute much to this thread. 3nodding

RanmaxHikaru

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RanmaxHikaru

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:27 am


Here is the greatest Clotif AMV I have ever seen. Actually it's more of a Tifa AMV but it has a lot of Cloud in it too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_UTk06lNqQ
PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:00 pm


RanmaxHikaru
Amylin
RanmaxHikaru
Well I did mess up the spelling on his name, however I think he may like to poke fun at me because of the fights between me and Ess Tii Eph Yue (AKA total b***h) on the "The bad and the hated: Which games/characters suck?" thread. people like her and QuistisTrepe19 only seem to be on that thread to make put downs on other peoples views and opinions. I was planing on making a really great essay on why Aeris sucks but then they started teasing me behind my back, saying stuff like "Oh I bet you five gold she wont be back." and "Yeah she'll probably come back with some crap she pulled out of the Internet a**." Anyway I realized that, even if I did write a great and logical essay on "Why Aeris Sucks", people like them would be to stupid and juvenile to admit they were wrong. So I decided to forget it and not play into their game. I'm not saying this is the reason for the joke but it could be confused
Really? Cause that's not the reason I laughed at the joke. ninja


That is true but, soadshuyin could still harbor some ill will toward me, if he happens to agree with the two people I have mentioned. From what I have seen soadshuyin seems to be a very nice, reasonable, mature, guy but I can't say that for sure because I don't know him personally. I mean he very well could have made a joke about my spelling error, because he saw an opportunity to be mean to me with out looking like a jerk to everyone. Anyway weather he doesn't like me or not I kind of wish he would post here more often, because I know he's a Clotif fan, and I think he could contribute much to this thread. 3nodding


My joke was mainly attatched to the mistake, but not in an insulting way. I just had a laugh that it was typed as "long."

Ess and Quisty arent all bad either. Just gotta see it how they would see it once in a while. It helps you deal with them. I can usually support their cause, as more often than not they are correct, but every once in a while, the just need a smack.

Oh, and my reasoning for not posting here is mainly because I dont look up pics of fanfics. I could give my views of how I believe they should be together, but that would require....you know...a bit of effort. And Im not up for effort exertion at this stage of the game.

@Jhay - Ill explain it to you later.

soadshuyin


Jhay-R

PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:31 pm


soadshuyin
RanmaxHikaru
Amylin
RanmaxHikaru
Well I did mess up the spelling on his name, however I think he may like to poke fun at me because of the fights between me and Ess Tii Eph Yue (AKA total b***h) on the "The bad and the hated: Which games/characters suck?" thread. people like her and QuistisTrepe19 only seem to be on that thread to make put downs on other peoples views and opinions. I was planing on making a really great essay on why Aeris sucks but then they started teasing me behind my back, saying stuff like "Oh I bet you five gold she wont be back." and "Yeah she'll probably come back with some crap she pulled out of the Internet a**." Anyway I realized that, even if I did write a great and logical essay on "Why Aeris Sucks", people like them would be to stupid and juvenile to admit they were wrong. So I decided to forget it and not play into their game. I'm not saying this is the reason for the joke but it could be confused
Really? Cause that's not the reason I laughed at the joke. ninja


That is true but, soadshuyin could still harbor some ill will toward me, if he happens to agree with the two people I have mentioned. From what I have seen soadshuyin seems to be a very nice, reasonable, mature, guy but I can't say that for sure because I don't know him personally. I mean he very well could have made a joke about my spelling error, because he saw an opportunity to be mean to me with out looking like a jerk to everyone. Anyway weather he doesn't like me or not I kind of wish he would post here more often, because I know he's a Clotif fan, and I think he could contribute much to this thread. 3nodding


My joke was mainly attatched to the mistake, but not in an insulting way. I just had a laugh that it was typed as "long."

Ess and Quisty arent all bad either. Just gotta see it how they would see it once in a while. It helps you deal with them. I can usually support their cause, as more often than not they are correct, but every once in a while, the just need a smack.

Oh, and my reasoning for not posting here is mainly because I dont look up pics of fanfics. I could give my views of how I believe they should be together, but that would require....you know...a bit of effort. And Im not up for effort exertion at this stage of the game.

@Jhay - Ill explain it to you later.


I'm just gonna shoot out a guess and say that the joke is referring to his "second sword" if you know what I mean? Just tell me if I'm close or not
PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:41 pm


Jhay-R
soadshuyin
RanmaxHikaru
Amylin
RanmaxHikaru
Well I did mess up the spelling on his name, however I think he may like to poke fun at me because of the fights between me and Ess Tii Eph Yue (AKA total b***h) on the "The bad and the hated: Which games/characters suck?" thread. people like her and QuistisTrepe19 only seem to be on that thread to make put downs on other peoples views and opinions. I was planing on making a really great essay on why Aeris sucks but then they started teasing me behind my back, saying stuff like "Oh I bet you five gold she wont be back." and "Yeah she'll probably come back with some crap she pulled out of the Internet a**." Anyway I realized that, even if I did write a great and logical essay on "Why Aeris Sucks", people like them would be to stupid and juvenile to admit they were wrong. So I decided to forget it and not play into their game. I'm not saying this is the reason for the joke but it could be confused
Really? Cause that's not the reason I laughed at the joke. ninja


That is true but, soadshuyin could still harbor some ill will toward me, if he happens to agree with the two people I have mentioned. From what I have seen soadshuyin seems to be a very nice, reasonable, mature, guy but I can't say that for sure because I don't know him personally. I mean he very well could have made a joke about my spelling error, because he saw an opportunity to be mean to me with out looking like a jerk to everyone. Anyway weather he doesn't like me or not I kind of wish he would post here more often, because I know he's a Clotif fan, and I think he could contribute much to this thread. 3nodding


My joke was mainly attatched to the mistake, but not in an insulting way. I just had a laugh that it was typed as "long."

Ess and Quisty arent all bad either. Just gotta see it how they would see it once in a while. It helps you deal with them. I can usually support their cause, as more often than not they are correct, but every once in a while, the just need a smack.

Oh, and my reasoning for not posting here is mainly because I dont look up pics of fanfics. I could give my views of how I believe they should be together, but that would require....you know...a bit of effort. And Im not up for effort exertion at this stage of the game.

@Jhay - Ill explain it to you later.


I'm just gonna shoot out a guess and say that the joke is referring to his "second sword" if you know what I mean? Just tell me if I'm close or not
Exactly. rofl

soadshuyin


RanmaxHikaru

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:55 pm


soadshuyin
Ess and Quisty arent all bad either. Just gotta see it how they would see it once in a while. It helps you deal with them. I can usually support their cause, as more often than not they are correct, but every once in a while, the just need a smack.


I think they both kneed more then a smack. Trust me if that conversation would have been in person they would have been running home crying with less teeth then they came with stressed IT also would have been nice if some one would have defended me even once since I wasn't wrong and they were just being rude.

Anyway I'll divert the conversation in another direction.

I recently found this on a Vintif fanlisting and thought it was very interesting.

The sequel factor(s). Then we have the barrage of FFVII sequels. The applicable ones in this case are Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus.
As Tetsuya Nomura, director of AC, said in an interview available on AdventChildren.Net, Advent Children is just a representation of one of the many possibilities of the aftermath of FFVII. In other words, Advent Children, and follow-ups to it such as Dirge of Cerberus, are not canon. Most likely, Nomura made this distinction to avoid offending any FFVII fans who are opposed to the idea of sequels.

Therefore, anything that happens in those movies/games should not be treated or touted as canon. I noticed many Vincent fans are disgusted by Yuffie playing a major role in Dirge of Cerberus; given what Nomura said, this disgust is needless. Square Enix is just giving a nod to young fangirls that way (they did this before in FFX-2, with the various references to Auron that can be found in some of Rikku's dresspheres).


So does this statement truly mean that AC and DoC isn't cannon? And if they're not cannon does that mean that BC, CC, and LO aren't cannon either?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 1:58 pm


Man, I am slow.... Still, that's hella funny, man. Heheeheheh

Hey, you know what song reminds me of CloTi more than anything? Ocean Deep by Carol Banawa, sorta like if Tifa was singing it to Cloud before they were together

Now, I can't find an amv with them together, but, this song really yells CloTi to me. Just imagine Tifa singing it to Cloud:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vkDNqYhFbI

Jhay-R


RanmaxHikaru

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:03 pm


Awwwww that was sweet heart 4laugh
PostPosted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 5:30 pm


RanmaxHikaru
Anyway I'll divert the conversation in another direction.

I recently found this on a Vintif fanlisting and thought it was very interesting.

The sequel factor(s). Then we have the barrage of FFVII sequels. The applicable ones in this case are Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus.
As Tetsuya Nomura, director of AC, said in an interview available on AdventChildren.Net, Advent Children is just a representation of one of the many possibilities of the aftermath of FFVII. In other words, Advent Children, and follow-ups to it such as Dirge of Cerberus, are not canon. Most likely, Nomura made this distinction to avoid offending any FFVII fans who are opposed to the idea of sequels.

Therefore, anything that happens in those movies/games should not be treated or touted as canon. I noticed many Vincent fans are disgusted by Yuffie playing a major role in Dirge of Cerberus; given what Nomura said, this disgust is needless. Square Enix is just giving a nod to young fangirls that way (they did this before in FFX-2, with the various references to Auron that can be found in some of Rikku's dresspheres).


So does this statement truly mean that AC and DoC isn't cannon? And if they're not cannon does that mean that BC, CC, and LO aren't cannon either?
It depends on what you consider canon to be... some people look at canon and think "made by the original creators"... then yes, all the FFVII sequals and prequals are canon. If you consider canon to be "a creator's original context without outside influence"... then no, these additions are not canon.
It relates close to what I talked about in the "What do you think of Tifa Lockheart" thread when I discussed the differences of Tifa in the original game and of the Tifa we see in AC (an so on). Again this applies to all features of FFVII; characters, plot, concept, settings, etc. (If you want to know more on the concept of Tifa read my other rant)
One big thing we all forgot about when the additionals came out was the multitude of theories that came out of the ending. To many Advent Children was pretty accurate, others thought Cloud and Tifa would be married by now, some thought Aeris came back to life, some (me included) thought that Cloud had died, or that the entire human race was wiped out... the list goes on. Also, if you really are open minded to the concepts and pay attention there really is evidence supporting all of these and NO real evidence disproving any of them.
For AC think about this, if Cloud and Tifa were married that would piss off Cleris fans, if Aeris came back to life Clifa fans would resent the strengthening of rivalary as well as it would make people who felt Aeris' death was a key point to why the story is so deep and beautiful feel cheated, if Cloud were dead there would not be nearly as much fandom for the sequal, and if the entire human race died there would really be no sequal at all.
The path taken by AC was a smart way to continue the story to make the potential sales without discouraging or pissing off fans. An original creation governed by fickle fandom.
We can still enjoy it and rather or not you consider it canon rests on what you think it means to be canon.

Amylin

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