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the idea of marriage as a sacred institution is completely old-fashioned. with such a high percentage of straight couples [i think close to 50%, don't quote me on it though] get divorced anyway, what sort of "sanctity" is there?

the only reason the idea of gay marriage is getting shoved down so much is because the church and its homophobic teachings claim that love and therefore relationships can only exist between a male and a female...which is obviously bullshit.

even just taking the whole church factor out of it and making it legal by civil ceremonies [i.e. city hall, drive-through wedding chapels, etc] seems like answer enough.

yet many women a year, even straight ones, require the aid of a sperm donor and artificial insemination to get pregnant.

as well, rampant childbirth leads to overpopulation and, in a lot of cases, abortions or children being mistreated or ignored by their parents.

why should straight people be given such a right to marry, reproduce, and forget as they wish, then? homosexuality is almost like a natural population control; there are no 'mistakes', there are no unwanted children. it's less about just reproducing and more about actually loving another person enough to enter a legal contract that binds the two of you together in a vow of loyalty.


and as well, what about all the straight couples who marry but choose not to have children? or the straight people who choose to have vasectomies/have their tubes tied as to prevent childbirth? if the only reason for marriage is to have children, shouldn't anything that prevents it [birth control, condoms, vasectomies, etc] be just as wrong? hell, what about children born out of wedlock?

marriage shouldn't be about poppin' out children. it's foundations should be in love, in vowing to be true to this other person until death does you part. to stay with them, no matter what, in sickness or in health. where in the vows does it claim that childbirth is a requisite?

first, im actually honestly curious why most of the defense from the anti- side of the arguement is either the just catchall "because the bible says so", or because of children. is there really that little of a reason to have it banned?

second, i can't really give an answer to why god created beings that were only able to reproduce with their opposite without scientific aid because i'm not at all a religious person, and don't believe in creationism, so trying to figure out the motives of an all-knowing power of whom i personally know no real details about would just make me sound like an idiot. i'll readily admit that i don't know exactly why homosexuality is considered wrong by biblical standards, because i havent read the book in depth. the only answer i can think to give is to keep balance; if all could reproduce with eachother, the population growth would be too steep and too sudden; homosexuality as population control, once again. but this is all assuming a god figure could see far enough in the future to predict things like this and create preventative measures for it.

and as for the "god says homosexuality is wrong" comment, if it was so wrong, why did he create us with the ability to have feelings for our same gender? if it was so wrong, why do such desires exist in the first place? homosexuality is oft not a learned behavior, but rather a preference a person is just born with.

you as well xD nice to discuss this topic with someone against it who actually explains their point of view in more detail than just "the bible says so".

For it 100%.

I think you mean "Judge not lest ye be judged," but I agree with the sentiment.

I'm just throwing this out there, but I didn't -choose- to be bisexual. I didn't choose to have my life completely complicated in the 8th grade when I realized that I was attracted to my female best friend. I didn't choose to like my girlfriend.

What I chose was to not ignore my feelings because it would make some other people comfortable. And, yes, I make people -very- uncomfortable. Because I happen to have a male fiancee as well.

And, no, I am not a "cheating whore" as most people seem to think. If you saw the three of us together, you'd realize that everything is out in the open, and that everyone is fine with it. It's called polyamory, and, for some people, it's just something that involuntarily happens.

I could pretend to be completely straight, and pretend that my fiancee is all I need to be happy.
But it would just be pretend, and he would see through it.

And then probably force me to go through with my feelings for my girlfriend.

So, yeah. There's just kind of an inside look at it, I guess.

I really don't care. But i don't understand why being gay is such a bad thing i mean like no one says omg stop lesbo..