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 Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 7:34 pm
 Hey guys: doesn't this pretty much sum it up? some "value for life", eh?
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:21 am
If we're bringing up family members who've had abortions, my sister did when she was seventeen. Which was a brilliant idea, because she could then finish high school, go to university, move in with her boyfriend who she is now marrying, and get on with her life. I doubt that she doesn't ever think about it, but I wouldn't say she regrets it or feels badly about it. I'm glad for her that I didn't become an aunt at sixteen, nor she a mother. I mean... ugh, I don't even want to think about the other scenarios.
NOTE TO PRO-LIFERS: NOT EVERYONE REGRETS ABORTION. JUST BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE REGRET SOME THINGS DOES NOT GIVE US THE RIGHT TO MAKE THE CHOICE FOR THEM. AND MY MUM NEVER HAD AN ABORTION (to my knowledge but she still had three kids), AND SHE IS STILL PRO-CHOICE.
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:35 pm
Back to the " When Obama Voted No" article with its raging debate: Quote: I doubt a women's depression after her abortion has anything to do with Pro-Lifers. If what the woman did was right, she wouldn't be hurt by people saying "What you did was wrong!" especially to the point of depression. What a ******** a*****e. It's pretty telling that instead of denying that their side tries to guilt or shame women, they ******** defend that behavior, trying to say it's not that bad.
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:22 am
PhaedraMcSpiffy Back to the " When Obama Voted No" article with its raging debate: Quote: I doubt a women's depression after her abortion has anything to do with Pro-Lifers. If what the woman did was right, she wouldn't be hurt by people saying "What you did was wrong!" especially to the point of depression. What a ******** a*****e. It's pretty telling that instead of denying that their side tries to guilt or shame women, they ******** defend that behavior, trying to say it's not that bad. If enough people tell you how wrong and immoral and heartless and nasty you are, for one decision, you may not start to think you're right, but it is still bullying and bullying gets people down. Ugh.
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:43 pm
Exactly! Here's another RHRealityCheck troll: Quote: I have seen abortions being done first hand. I have seen the abortionand what the fetus does on a ultrasound. I have seen the baby after it comes out. I have seen partial birth abortions too. I have seen them jab scissors in the back of a baby's skull when the doctor pulls it out enough to reach the head. He then makes a hole, insert to the baby's head in back and sucks out the brains. When the baby is dead, they pull it out. The solution they put in a women who wants a emergency abortion replaces the amniotic fluid. It burns the baby and it takes the baby at least 3 days to die in agony. I have seen these bodies. It's so sad. Apparantly "first hand" means "in pro-life propaganda".
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 6:55 pm
These were put up on FSTDT a little while ago. I found them on DeviantArt. The "people" posting them were later banned because the two accounts were actually one person who was harrassing people with them. [ link] [ link 2] [ link 3] antianarchy abortion needs to be wiped from the face of the earth. and if some women need to die than so be it.didlover22 ok then. then who is anyone to stop me from beating u to death? so ur saying that we should let 10 million babies die for 200 women? that makes a lot of sense. abortion is murder. no exeptions. i hope u get aids and ******** dieContext: This was on the same Deviation, which was made by a young woman who aborted because she would die if she did not. At the end of it it says something like "What happens when your God doesn't give you a choice?" zowiz When god does not give you a choice you die like he intended. abortion is not natural. I'm not sure if this is the same person as the first two usernames. As of yet, he hasn't been banned. I do see that antianarchy has changed his sig: Quote: it appears ive been banned.
lol. i knew this would happen. it was all part of my plan. i had a good time. i will be back one day with a ton of art. u havent seen the last of me. enjoy promoting mass murder. oh and
SUCK IT PROCHOICE ******** class="clear"> Classy.
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:21 pm
At least all the comments are made by people who can use their brains logically and all that.
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Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 6:48 am
Quote: The solution they put in a women who wants a emergency abortion replaces the amniotic fluid. It burns the baby and it takes the baby at least 3 days to die in agony. Why do I somehow not believe what this guy is saying? Could it be that something that'd burn the foetus would probably also burn the womb? Yeah, I think that's it. I do wonder what the hell these dudes are smoking sometimes.
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:10 pm
Yeah, they're a little behind when it comes to critical thinking skills... ..Or empathy. Comments on RH Reality Check seem to not be moderated a lot (I guess they want to educate dissenters, not just make them feel like silenced martyrs?). The Raving Atheist You refer to "anti-abortion coercion" like it's a bad thing. So the woman has a baby. What business is it of yours why she chose to have it? Plenty of women have kids because they were brought up pro-life and think abortion is a bad thing. What's the big deal if the woman was convinced not to have an abortion after she entered the CPC, as opposed to having been convinced by watching something about fetal development on TV a week before, or having been convinced by her religion/values not to have one years before? 1. GTFO out of my non-religion. You give us all a bad reputation. 2. I hope you're joking. I really, really hope you see what's wrong with lying to women. But then again, on other columns, there's stupidity from the faithful to balance it out: Quote: Amanda, it's not the patriarchy that makes women pregnant after premarital sex; it's not Republicans who make people get diseases when they swap bodily fluids. So, my dear atheist, stop complaining about conservatives and start cussing out evolution. That might make it to FSTDT...
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 9:26 pm
I was debating someone on DeviantArt for a long time, but I'm sorry I was so stressed about it. They refused to cite sources on their information and just kept insisting that abortion was morally wrong (you've every right to think so, but that's not enough for you to take the right away from others). Most of her latest reply was polite and reasonable (welcome contrast from the medically-inaccurate crap she was spouting) but she ruined it with this: NethBrandybuck There's nothing left for me to do now but pray to God you never get knocked up before you mean to, because your baby is ********' screwed. Why do some religious people think they can insult you to your face as long as they say "I pray that..." beforehand? Doesn't sound like something Jesus would do, in my opinion. Also: That's real classy language about fetuses from someone who claims to care about them so much. But I guess that lack of compassion can be expected from her, at least when it's about women. Considering she's also said: Quote: That's the most selfish argument I've ever gotten from the pro-choice side. My body, my right, mineminemine. Is everyone on the pro-choice side that selfish? I find that astonishing that no one even considers what a child might say in that situation. If you're going to argue about what goes in a person's body, look up saline abortion. THAT goes into the fetus' body and kills it. Who protects a fetus from someone putting saline in the womb they're occupying so that they can swallow it and burn from the inside out? Excuse my scare-tactics but that is the most frustrating thing to come from the pro-choice side. Mineminemine, constantly.I'm not trivializing women's problems, I'm saying toughen up. Bad things happen to everyone and if you can't get through it without resorting to murder, you should've done a little more growing up before having sex and putting yourself at risk for a pregnancy. (That, of course, does not apply to rape victims.) If you're not ready to deal with the possible consequences of having sex (pregnancy, STDs), then you shouldn't have it yet. She never answered the "Why is a rape-fetus less valuable than a consentual sex-fetus?" question... Quote: There's just no getting around the whole excuse-me-while-I-grow-inside you deal. As insensitive as it sounds, s**t happens. But "s**t", apparently, does not include abortions: Quote: No one on my side has ever denied that some women cannot support their unborn children, and NO ONE ASKS THEM TO. s**t happens. Carry the baby. Get through it. Give it away. It's that simple. Quote: Honestly, just deal with it... unwanted pregnancies are no different from the countless other extreme difficulties some people have to face in life. That doesn't mean you should get rid of a child, just because you can. Quote: I'm not protecting the woman, she doesn't NEED protection. The person in her womb needs protection because obviously no one else in this discussion cares about them.
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:44 pm
So, I just joined Facebook out of curiosity, and I've found it to be better than Myspace in a lot of ways. However, one of these ways is certainly not "less pro-lifers". There are a lot of anti-choice groups, causes, people, etc. out there, but this group takes the ********' cake: " It's Not Your Body, It's Your Baby's" That's the title. I s**t you not. The description: Quote: A neonate, a foetus, a zygote, an embryo: these are not the cells of the mother, these are the cells of the baby. These are the living tissue of another organism, separate from the mother, that is simply within the mother, living off her, dependent on her, growing through her, physically attached to her - but not her. Pro-Choice activists who advocate that "women have the right to choose" on what happens to their "own body" are thoroughly disagreed with. You've been silly enough to have unprotected sex when you didn't want a child - at least accept the moral implications of an abortion. This isn't a cist you're slicing off. It's your baby. Disclaimers: - As far as Pro-Life goes, there will always be exceptions, e.g. rape, etc. The views expressed in this group apply to your "standard" case.- The above description is intended as a rough statement of this position, not as a summary of reasons for it. If you wish to discuss the issue, that can be done on the message-boards. Translation: "Abortion is murder, but only if you're a slut. But don't worry, because all women who abort are." What's even more ******** horrific is this pic. Wrong on SO many levels.
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:55 am
Quote: And who put the fetus there? The man, and who LET (with exception of rape) the man do that? The woman. It's not the baby's fault the idiots that made it don't want it. I highly doubt any woman that wasn't raped can tell me that they didn't know they could make a baby. Even using protection, there is still a chance at pregnauncy. The baby never had a choice. It didn't do anything wrong. O___________________o ...
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:14 pm
Quote: And who put the fetus there? I honestly don't understand the people who talk about unwanted pregnancy as if conception is a choice made by the woman. No one makes a conscious decision for the egg to be fertilized and then attach to the wall of the uterus. Most women have the choice of having sex, but after that it's out of your hands. I've seen so many lifers imply or outright state the pregnancy or conception is some sort of choice that you make by having PIV sex, and that is simply, biologically, untrue.
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2008 5:53 pm
[Ernie] Quote: And who put the fetus there? I honestly don't understand the people who talk about unwanted pregnancy as if conception is a choice made by the woman. No one makes a conscious decision for the egg to be fertilized and then attach to the wall of the uterus. Most women have the choice of having sex, but after that it's out of your hands. I've seen so many lifers imply or outright state the pregnancy or conception is some sort of choice that you make by having PIV sex, and that is simply, biologically, untrue. Its just like how some pro-life people say that "I am pro-choice! I'm telling a woman she can't have sex, that's her CHOICE." Yeah...No. STFU. D< (Not you, Ernie. >w<;; )
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Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:21 pm
This is one of many empathy-lacking quotes that can be found in Frances Kissling's answer to " What If Your Mother Had Aborted You?" on RHRealityCheck. Noah Ward And if you die via a coathanger abortion, just who's fault is that? Who was the one who shoved a sharp metal wire up their v****a? Coathangers are for coats, so keep them out of your body! There's a HUGE post on there called "All life is sacred!" that's got some gems in it, too. They argue that abortion is wrong because it caused all the problems with social security, made less taxpayers, and in true pro-"life" fashion, that if only abortion were never made illegal, there would be more young men in our military fighting to protect our "freedom".
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