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profit and success for them. its the TAU empire. not the federation. they see other species as a means to an end. its better to have Kroot working with you because they are strong where you are weak. but its still for the Tau's benefit.

unless it were possible for Tau and humans to interbreed (and i am sure it is not) then you will always have two species striving for dominance.

I was talking about immagrants and when we were the country that everyone flocked to, not native americans, but i guess I should have been more specific.

Yet somehow it seems the best. Progress for the sake of progress, not for some God or for pleasure or revenge.

And realy, if everyone followed them, there'd be no trouble in the Segmentum.

-Mykal

Hey all. I'm a new member to the guild, but not for long. I am pretty sure I can post an army list up in this thread, but if I'm wrong I apologize.

HQ: 2 Shas'O with 2 bodyguard a piece. Max out shield drones and shooting capabilties while dividing special equipment between the 2 commanders.

Use- Deep strike the one without the Fragmentation Projectile Launcher and wherever you place it, the squad it fires at should die in that turn if done right. Use the one that does to clear out any cover huggers and then support other command team.

Troop: 6 full squads of Fire Warriors with 2 marker drones each.

Use- Split into two groups and set them in cover for support fire as they have a 30" range. Try not to move them, but if it's a must then in a supporting fire manner... 3 move up 3 stay, then they switch rolls to push their 30" up the table.

Elite: 1 squad of battlesuits with mixed vehicle and infantry killing ability. 1 squad of stealthsuits.

Use- Deep strike battlesuits at a key point. Stealth suits are used as a lure or to harrass the enemy.

Fast Attack: Hahaha! Don't make me laugh.

Heavy Support: 2 full squads of broadsides with 2 shield drones a group.

Use- Place one with each of the 2 Fire Warrior groups. 3 Railguns is pretty nasty and so will keep vehicles out of firing range of the troop unless they wanna be blown up.

All- Give each squad a bonding knife. For 5 pts a squad it's well worth it.

I am still working out the quinks of my army, but I haven't lost a game yet. Oh and for those wondering how I fair in close combat without Kroot. I rarely lose even with WS 2 or 3.

Fair enough. An Ethereal can be useful, but I find with their new rules, they aren't entirely worth their points. Frankly, their best use in the Empires Codex is to buy a squad of BS4 Fire Warriors. The Inspiring Presence rule has been nerfed severely. Frankly, I never use Bodyguards. I prefer the ability to keep my Commander untargetable over having extra bodies with him, but then my Commander is a Fire Knife, and I keep him far back near my lines. Broadsides are well worth their points, but not worth $35, especially when a Hammerhead costs just 5 or 10 dollars more. If you play at a club or independent retailer, I suggest buying alternative models and use them as Broadsides. If you play at an actual GW, then you're SOL. I don't have any Piranha myself, but I suggest you use a normal Crisis Team to go tankhunting, rather than throwing away an expensive command team by getting them that close.


First off, I'm seeing alot of illegal setups in this unit. You can't give Vectored Thrusters to a suit that has other suits or drones with it. Also, have you read the rules for Special Issue equipment? Special Issue is one per army. Meaning you can have one of each peice in your army, no more. You can't have three suits, all with Iridium Armor, Stims, and Vectored Thrusters.

Beyond that, your suits are limited to three hardpoints, to use the old Tau terminology. Meaning you have three slots for support systems or weapons on each suit, no more. Anything beyond that has to be wargear. So your on bodyguard with Missiles, Fusion, Flamer, and Vectored Thrusters is illegal.

Frankly, I feel this unit is terrible. I understand you use them for tank hunting, but this unit can't do anything beyond 18", and you will only rarely get to move them 12" in a turn, because the whole unit's assault move is slowed down by Iridium Armor. The only reason you've been having success with them is because they all illegally have Hit and Run, Feel no Pain, and 2+ saves.


Drop Photon Grenades. You want your Fire Warrior squads to get shredded in the first round of combat and run, that way you can shoot the assaulters in your turn. Photon Grenades help Fire Warriors live longer in assault, which is bad for your army. I generally find that Rifles are far superior to Carbines, but then that's me.


Rail rifles are something of a waste of points in my opinion, but if you fight a lot of Space Marines, then I suppose it might be worth it. Don't give them any grenades, they're a waste of points.


How do your Stealths have Markerlights? Are you running a three man squad with 6 Marker Drones? Because the only Markerlight option in the Stealth Entry is either Marker drones or the one Markerlight available to the team leader. Why would you give the Stealthsuits Multi-trackers? The only one who could make use of it is the team leader, with his attached Markerlight. Everyone else only has one weapon, and furthermore, if their one support slot is taken by the Drone Controllers to hold the Markerdrones, how are they taking Multi-trackers?. Also, keep in mind that Markerlights are Heavy weapons, so you can't move in the Movement phase if you're intent on firing them. I feel the Fusion is wasted on the Stealths, but that's me, and I depend on Railguns to take out high AV targets.


What upgrades? I suggest Multi-tracker, Target Lock, and Decoy Launchers. those are pretty much standard for any Tau tank. If you have extra points, throw on Flechette Dischargers.


I'm not entirely sure what you're describing here.


You cannot consistently get the full 12" when your command squad has Iridium Armor. Remember, Iridium lowers your assault move to d6 inches. In any case, I feel you're wasting points with this squad. Make a normal Crisis Team to Deep Strike in and attack tanks, with no Special Issue equipment. Because if they die, you give up less points.




So, how many points is this list in total? Keep in mind most of the time you cannot simply swap out options when you're on the table. Furthermore, changing out the Ion Cannon for the Railgun requires you to drop 35 points from somewhere in your list. I feel the only reason you've done well is that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of the rules.

Well, you don't need to glue on your Hammerhead weapon, or your Crisis weapons. My Hammerhead has changeable weapons and my Crisis Suits all have magnetized equipment so I can swap when I feel like it. However, my point was that you can't make up an army list, then see that you have lots of light infantry across the table and swap the Ion Cannon for the Railgun on the spot. The point of interchangeability is that you can try out more lists, not tailor your army into uneven points values on the spot.

P.S. You know you can't use the Markerlight in your Carbine squad when it's on the move, right?