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 Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:06 am
Nuclearwinter A.R.G.U.S Mykal Nuclearwinter Lt. Brookman Khek is used by Vostroyans and quite liberate by these simple neo-Russkies. But Catachans and Cadians swear like real people do, so ********, s**t and piss should suffice. Should you go for the "safe for youngsters ears" method, then go with frag at the very least, my Cadians use that term all the time. Along with warp and using the term "the Eye" as a swearing matter. Funny enough, I don't remember Catachans from the novel Death World swearing at all, they all just had stupid names such as "Lorenzo" and "Patch Armstrong" plus a strong lemming-like desire to die at certain points in the novel to fullfill some human deus ex machina moment. Probally cause catachans are the most "American" of the imperial guard. Everyone else is either British, Russian, or German. Irish or Scottish for the Tanith 1st and the spacewolves too. (anything else I'm forgetting?)Cadians are "British" guardsmen as well aren't they? Plus, I'm sure the various cuss words also depends on the author of the books written, and (like you said) probally so that younger kids can get into the game when their parents might still be offened by excessive curse words.
Scotish people are British, as are a percentage of the Irish.
I assume you meant English there?
Yes, I think so.
*Waves flag*
-Mykal My mistake, I get British and "English" mixed up at times. But you still see my point, yes?
Many people do, I just see it my civic duty to correct.
I do see your point, as well.
-Mykal
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:28 am
Nuclearwinter Lt. Brookman Khek is used by Vostroyans and quite liberate by these simple neo-Russkies. But Catachans and Cadians swear like real people do, so ********, s**t and piss should suffice. Should you go for the "safe for youngsters ears" method, then go with frag at the very least, my Cadians use that term all the time. Along with warp and using the term "the Eye" as a swearing matter. Funny enough, I don't remember Catachans from the novel Death World swearing at all, they all just had stupid names such as "Lorenzo" and "Patch Armstrong" plus a strong lemming-like desire to die at certain points in the novel to fullfill some human deus ex machina moment. Probally cause catachans are the most "American" of the imperial guard. Everyone else is either British, Russian, or German. Irish or Scottish for the Tanith 1st and the spacewolves too. (anything else I'm forgetting?)Cadians are "British" guardsmen as well aren't they? Plus, I'm sure the various cuss words also depends on the author of the books written, and (like you said) probally so that younger kids can get into the game when their parents might still be offened by excessive curse words. Well lets doanother one of these little Run Downs Valhallan and Vostroyans: Both for these fit into Russian categorys. Vahallans being the Red Army, Vostroyans being Cosacks Praetorians: English zulu wars era Tallarns: traditional middle eastern though from limited writings that include them they dont seem to talk very much that way Atillan: Thse most closely fit with the Mongols Armageddon and Krieg: German WWI/II sytle uniforms and equipment Catachans: US vietnam era commandos. Mordian: Not particularly base of any country that I know of just some snazy dress uniforms. Cadains: based of most moden soldiers Ive seen bits for US army Rangers to British Royal Marine Commandos Eylsia: Again these are base off most modern paratrooper forces
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:51 am
Joink! The Mordians are partially based on the US jarhead (marines) force parade uniform. And the Elysians, while looking modern and high tech, are actually a throw back to WWII airborne operations; ******** of troops being dropped onto a single group of objectives instead of a group of spec ops wankers with "superior" training as is done today. The Tallarn are pretty much the Middle Eastern people of the 40k universe, extremely religious, but none of the hakbar s**t that those zealous red-white-blue Americans love to stereotype them with. Lucian Soulban, a shitty author known for his ghetto style vampire novels, will write a novel about them for BL. I fear for the reputation of these fine warriors even now. And seeing as this one hasn't been included yet, the classic GW and FW tank crew designs with the leather crash helmets are based on Soviet tank crew. The Leman Russ is the futuristic counter part of the rugged and reliable T34 and the Chimera is a futuristic copy-paste of the Russian BMP IFV. To spice thigns up, Jes Goodwin's design of a lasgun looked very much alike to the AK47, because Gav Thorpe said that the lasgun is the AK47 of the forty first millennium. I sadly no longer have the drawing handy in digital form, but instead look at this Necromunda weapons frame:  Top weapon is a M16 copy, but the weapon on the direct left shows similar elements to the AK, especially the barrel and clip design.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:39 am
Lt. Brookman Joink! The Mordians are partially based on the US jarhead (marines) force parade uniform. And the Elysians, while looking modern and high tech, are actually a throw back to WWII airborne operations; ******** of troops being dropped onto a single group of objectives instead of a group of spec ops wankers with "superior" training as is done today. I sadly no longer have the drawing handy in digital form, but instead look at this Necromunda weapons frame: Top weapon is a M16 copy, but the weapon on the direct left shows similar elements to the AK, especially the barrel and clip design. I not so sure about those mordians. Ive never seen a marine wearing any kind of shoulder cord. Now the Army Dress Blue uniform which is very similar to that of the marines has shoulder cords. Infantry get a Blue one while no one else get any except for the Frech Foriage.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:27 am
And now for something completely different! Mac's Death Korps of Krieg siege regiment, the 13th Rifles. Doctrines. - Die-hards - Iron Discipline - Hardened Fighters - Storm trooper squads - Rough rider squadron - Heavy weapon platoon HQ. Senior officer - carapace armour, power weapon and Iron Discipline. Veterans (2) - standard bearer with lasgun, medic with lasgun Guardsmen (2) - grenade launcher (2) Die-hards and hardened fighters Anti-tank support squad - Lascannon (3), Die-hards and hardened fighters Fire support squad - heavy bolter (3), Die-hards and hardened fighters Mortar squad - Die-hards and hardened fighters ELITES. Storm Trooper squad (10) - Veteran sergeant with power weapon, flamer and grenade launcher. TROOPS. Junior officer - carapace armour, power weapon and Iron Discipline. Veteran - lasgun Guardsmen (3) - plasma gun, meltagun and vox caster - Die-hards and hardened fighters Infantry squad - sergeant with lasgun, flamer, Die-hards and hardened fighters Infantry squad - sergeant with lasgun, grenade launcher, lascannon, Die-hards and hardened fighters Infantry squad - sergeant with lasgun, grenade launcher, heavy bolter, Die-hards and hardened fighters Junior officer - carapace armour, power weapon and Iron Discipline. Veteran - lasgun Guardsmen (3) - plasma gun, meltagun and vox caster - Die-hards and hardened fighters Infantry squad - sergeant with lasgun, flamer, Die-hards and hardened fighters Infantry squad - sergeant with lasgun, grenade launcher, lascannon, Die-hards and hardened fighters Infantry squad - sergeant with lasgun, grenade launcher, heavy bolter, Die-hards and hardened fighters FAST ATTACK. Death Riders (10) - Veteran sergeant with power weapon, hunting lances (10) and laspistols, Die-hards. HEAVY SUPPORT. Leman Russ - Heavy bolters (3), rough terrain mod. and pintle-mounted heavy stubber. Leman Russ - Heavy bolters (3), rough terrain mod. and pintle-mounted heavy stubber.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:14 pm
Lt. Brookman And now for something completely different! Mac's Death Korps of Krieg siege regiment, the 13th Rifles. Doctrines. - Die-hards - Iron Discipline - Hardened Fighters - Storm trooper squads - Rough rider squadron - Heavy weapon platoon HQ. Senior officer - carapace armour, power weapon and Iron Discipline. Veterans (2) - standard bearer with lasgun, medic with lasgun Guardsmen (2) - grenade launcher (2) Die-hards and hardened fighters Anti-tank support squad - Lascannon (3), Die-hards and hardened fighters Fire support squad - heavy bolter (3), Die-hards and hardened fighters Mortar squad - Die-hards and hardened fighters ELITES. Storm Trooper squad (10) - Veteran sergeant with power weapon, flamer and grenade launcher. TROOPS. Junior officer - carapace armour, power weapon and Iron Discipline. Veteran - lasgun Guardsmen (3) - plasma gun, meltagun and vox caster - Die-hards and hardened fighters Infantry squad - sergeant with lasgun, flamer, Die-hards and hardened fighters Infantry squad - sergeant with lasgun, grenade launcher, lascannon, Die-hards and hardened fighters Infantry squad - sergeant with lasgun, grenade launcher, heavy bolter, Die-hards and hardened fighters Junior officer - carapace armour, power weapon and Iron Discipline. Veteran - lasgun Guardsmen (3) - plasma gun, meltagun and vox caster - Die-hards and hardened fighters Infantry squad - sergeant with lasgun, flamer, Die-hards and hardened fighters Infantry squad - sergeant with lasgun, grenade launcher, lascannon, Die-hards and hardened fighters Infantry squad - sergeant with lasgun, grenade launcher, heavy bolter, Die-hards and hardened fighters FAST ATTACK. Death Riders (10) - Veteran sergeant with power weapon, hunting lances (10) and laspistols, Die-hards. HEAVY SUPPORT. Leman Russ - Heavy bolters (3), rough terrain mod. and pintle-mounted heavy stubber. Leman Russ - Heavy bolters (3), rough terrain mod. and pintle-mounted heavy stubber. Wow, calvalry actually works..? I thought they're just a 'one trick' crew? After they use up their lance, they're just fodder/meatshields. Counting they don't get killed before they can use their lance. Credit given for keeping to the fluff, though.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:27 pm
Asian_Rebel Wow, calvalry actually works..? I thought they're just a 'one trick' crew? After they use up their lance, they're just fodder/meatshields. Counting they don't get killed before they can use their lance. Credit given for keeping to the fluff, though. what of course they work. Highly mobile Imperial Guard. If only all my troops could move out of the way so quickly.
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 3:36 pm
well I just looked at the Pre-order sheet for GW
Release Date 10-15-07
New Commissar $20
Baneblade $95
Emperors Fist Tank Company (apocalypse) $275
Imperial Guard Company (direct order) $350
also noted on this list
Leman Russ Squadron $90
Basalisk Battery $90
it also give the release dates for Apocalypse and other Codex so I will post a link to where it can be found in release rumors
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:58 pm
My Krieg army is themed heavily around the fluff and not around building a force designed to be min/mxed into winning. I always theme my armies heavily, my previous army, the Cadian 13th shock regiment, was heavily centered around the Cadian doctrines and the background info given. This made for not just a strong force, but also one with flavour.
+ + +
Mat, are those UK or US release dates?
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:55 pm
Josef Gafencu King Kento I think the porrly made sequel to crusade for armegeddon had the ork bunters saying "Frik, Frikken" and so on. Which was realistic I thought, after so long simple slang for freak and freaking become their own words.
I direct you to this.
Ah-ha, tis genius!
Not that Im aware of. Perhaps, but we're talking about ork hunters in a jungle, not the hive born types which I do believe there are some germanic themes.
Ive seen this before, and my problem with it is, Ive studied german for 4 years and know natives, I have yet to hear anyone say frichen as a swear, or anything but to hit. Not even when reffering to hitting something or sexual innuendo. Hell, some germans say ********. It could still be true, but so far I have yet to find anything going that way.
Still was a hunorous video to me before I tried to prove it right.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 12:02 am
Lt. Brookman My Krieg army is themed heavily around the fluff and not around building a force designed to be min/mxed into winning. I always theme my armies heavily, my previous army, the Cadian 13th shock regiment, was heavily centered around the Cadian doctrines and the background info given. This made for not just a strong force, but also one with flavour. + + + Mat, are those UK or US release dates?
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:21 am
King Kento Josef Gafencu King Kento I think the porrly made sequel to crusade for armegeddon had the ork bunters saying "Frik, Frikken" and so on. Which was realistic I thought, after so long simple slang for freak and freaking become their own words.
I direct you to this.
Ah-ha, tis genius!
Not that Im aware of. Perhaps, but we're talking about ork hunters in a jungle, not the hive born types which I do believe there are some germanic themes.
Ive seen this before, and my problem with it is, Ive studied german for 4 years and know natives, I have yet to hear anyone say frichen as a swear, or anything but to hit. Not even when reffering to hitting something or sexual innuendo. Hell, some germans say ********. It could still be true, but so far I have yet to find anything going that way.
Still was a hunorous video to me before I tried to prove it right.The Death Korps of Krieg is heavily based on the German WWI and II armies. Plus, I believe "Krieg"means "war" in German. (so in complete english, they're actually called the Death Corps of War, lol it rymes)
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:36 am
yes your right Krieg means war in german
(sorry I lurk alot just dont post much)
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 11:30 am
King Kento Any reason for 13 being in both army names? 13 was part of my old student number, it was my exam number of the year I took exams and graduated and in some twisted way consider it my personal lucky number.
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:20 pm
Actually, scratch that last list I posted, if Apocalypse is the way of the future then 3.000 pts. of cold, efficient faceless trenchers it is!
Mac's Death Korps of Krieg line regiment, the 152nd Rifles.
Doctrines.
- Die-hards
- Iron Discipline
- Hardened Fighters
- Storm trooper squads
- Rough rider squadron
- Heavy weapon platoon
HQ.
Senior officer - carapace armour, power weapon and Iron Discipline.
Veteran - standard bearer with lasgun
Guardsmen (3) - grenade launcher (2), master vox
Die-hards and hardened fighters
Anti-tank support squad - Lascannon (3), Die-hards and hardened fighters
Anti-tank support squad - Lascannon (3), Die-hards and hardened fighters
Fire support squad - heavy bolter (3), Die-hards and hardened fighters
Mortar squad - Die-hards and hardened fighters
Mortar squad - Die-hards and hardened fighters
ELITES.
Storm Trooper squad (10) - Veteran sergeant with power weapon, flamer and grenade launcher.
Storm Trooper squad (10) - Veteran sergeant with power weapon, heavy stubber and grenade launcher.
TROOPS.
Junior officer - carapace armour, power weapon and Iron Discipline.
Veteran - lasgun
Guardsmen (3) - plasma gun, meltagun and vox caster
- Die-hards and hardened fighters
Infantry squad - sergeant with lasgun, flamer, Die-hards and hardened fighters
Infantry squad - sergeant with lasgun, grenade launcher, lascannon, Die-hards and hardened fighters
Infantry squad - sergeant with lasgun, grenade launcher, heavy bolter, Die-hards and hardened fighters
Junior officer - carapace armour, power weapon and Iron Discipline.
Veteran - lasgun
Guardsmen (3) - plasma gun, meltagun and vox caster
- Die-hards and hardened fighters
Infantry squad - sergeant with lasgun, flamer, Die-hards and hardened fighters
Infantry squad - sergeant with lasgun, grenade launcher, lascannon, Die-hards and hardened fighters
Infantry squad - sergeant with lasgun, grenade launcher, heavy bolter, Die-hards and hardened fighters
FAST ATTACK.
Death Riders (10) - Veteran sergeant with power weapon, hunting lances (10) and laspistols, Die-hards.
HEAVY SUPPORT.
Leman Russ - Heavy bolters (3), rough terrain mod. and pintle-mounted heavy stubber.
Leman Russ - Heavy bolters (3), rough terrain mod. and pintle-mounted heavy stubber.
Basilisk - Rough terrain mod. and pintle-mounted heavy stubber.
SUPER-HEAVY SUPPORT.
*insert pattern here* Baneblade - pintle-mounted heavy stubber
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