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Robthebob

PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 9:39 pm


Yeah, with the extra set gives me enough for another mob of 10 guardsmen (w/ sgt that is). I do know that i need more.

Any suggestions of what i should do being a long ranged based force?
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 10:09 pm


Robthebob
Yeah, with the extra set gives me enough for another mob of 10 guardsmen (w/ sgt that is). I do know that i need more.

Any suggestions of what i should do being a long ranged based force?


put auto-cannons and lazcannons in your infanty squads. generally, guard usually don't have much of a choice but to be long range based. (unless you like suicidal charges)

Nuclearwinter


Robthebob

PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:09 pm


Yar, thanks again for the build. Ill look into it and probably persue it. mrgreen
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:26 am


Nuclearwinter
Robthebob
Hmm... I just made my guard army, as in just assembled a lot of it hehe. If you think of any good ideas for your layout, give me a hollar or something.

Currently mine isnt totally finished, but this is what i have so far. Made from the Cadian Battleforce box set.


110th Cadian "Shadow Corps"

(Yet to buy a HQ squad >_<)

Squad 1:
1 Sergeant, frags, (thinking of making to Vet Sgt.)
7 Guardsmen, frags, 1 Nade launcher
1 Autocannon

Squad 2:
1 Sergeant, frags (possible vet...)
7 Guards, frags, 1 special (yet to think of, thinking maybe melta?)
1 Heavy Bolter.

And soon to be Leman Russ. Gonna start buildin that tomorrow probably, or later tonight. Gonna put a lascannon on front, and bolters on sides.


My plans are mainly longer range, until close where G-launchers can be used and such. Gonna probably buy a set of Kasrkins later. Any ideas what I should use for doctrines or changes for my army?


not enoguh troop choices, you need at least 1 platoon and another troop choice. guardsmen don't deploy in just squads.

and don't waste points on frag grenades, they may seem cheap but they're useless for guardsmen unless your entire army revolves around assult (which is rather difficult to pull off)


well I see the need to step in and save the day here you really havent given him enough advice to get an army on the Table

Ok here is what you will absolutly need to get a minimum requirments army on the table

HQ Squad (yes you mentioned this already but I am reiterating)

Platoon HQ depending on your path you may need two. (now this you have a few options with. If your really cheap you can make your own officers using the Head with the officer hat off the tank spure but I advise buying a Lts blister you get better weapons. Also you will want special weapons so pick them up for your main HQ as well)

One more box of Shock Troops (even if you dont build all of them now I always come up with some evil genius idea for a conversion. Or you could build extras in variants of special weapons)

Heavy Weapons Squad box, and extra bases (you dont truly understand how much this box contains. with each HW set I can build 3x HW, you build your autocannon or lascannon then you build missle launchers without using the leg thingys. They look dump on a man portable weapon IMO. Then you can use parts of that and the grenade launcher arm to make a hvy bolter on a Bipod, or you could build motars they are always fun to use)

these are mats best buying recommendations.
1x Cadian Shock Troops
1x Cadian Lts Blister
1x Cadian Command Squad
2 or 3 x Cadian Special Weapons
1x Cadian Hvy Weapons Squad

You mention Stormtroopers so Ill draw up a sample list base on mats crazyness

1850

Doctrines.
- Light Infantry
- Iron Discipline
- Storm troopers
- Sharpshooters

HQ.

Senior Officer - Power Fist, bolt pistol and Iron Discipline
Veteran - Medic with lasgun
Veteran - Standard bearer with company standard, laspistol and ccw
Guardsmen (2) - Grenade launcher and Plasma Gun

Elites.

Storm trooper squad
Veteran sergeant - Hellpistol and power weapon
Storm troopers (9) - Flamer
Deep strike or Infiltrate

Troops.

Infantry platoon.

Junior officer - Bolt pistol, Power Fist and Iron Discipline
Veteran - Medic with lasgun
Guardsmen (3) - Heavy bolter and lasgun

Sergeant - Laspistol and ccw
Guardsmen (9) - Flamer , Heavy Bolter

Sergeant - Laspistol and ccw
Guardsmen (9) - Flamer , Heavy Bolter

Infantry Platoon.

Junior officer - Bolt pistol, Power Weapon and Iron Discipline
Veteran - Medic with lasgun
Guardsmen (3) - Melta, Plasma, Lasgun

Sergeant - Laspistol and ccw
Guardsmen (9) - Meltagun , Heavy Bolter

Sergeant - Laspistol and ccw
Guardsmen (9) - Flamer , Heavy Bolter

well I put a little more stuff in there than what you might have but I do my best with what limited resources I have over here

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Nuclearwinter

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:47 pm


I PMed him with lotsa information, that's why he was thanking me.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:53 pm


In the 41st Milennium, what is classed as a profanity? ********, tits, arse and bugger aren't that fitting.

What do guardsmen say when really pissed off?


-Mykal

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:53 pm


I was going to say. "Shame on you for not imparting all your gaming knowledge"
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:59 pm


A.R.G.U.S Mykal
In the 41st Milennium, what is classed as a profanity? ********, tits, arse and bugger aren't that fitting.

What do guardsmen say when really pissed off?


-Mykal

Well ill make a small list

Feth, Gak, Frag, Kek

it all depends on what world said Guardsmen come from. While the Tanith use Feth. The Verghasites use Gak. Frag is pretty universe for guardsmen. And I cannot remember where I heard Kek.

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A.R.G.U.S Mykal

PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 4:08 pm


Mat
A.R.G.U.S Mykal
In the 41st Milennium, what is classed as a profanity? ********, tits, arse and bugger aren't that fitting.

What do guardsmen say when really pissed off?


-Mykal

Well ill make a small list

Feth, Gak, Frag, Kek

it all depends on what world said Guardsmen come from. While the Tanith use Feth. The Verghasites use Gak. Frag is pretty universe for guardsmen. And I cannot remember where I heard Kek.


Catachan and Cadia please.
:3


-Mykal
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 8:43 pm


Khek is used by Vostroyans and quite liberate by these simple neo-Russkies.

But Catachans and Cadians swear like real people do, so ********, s**t and piss should suffice. Should you go for the "safe for youngsters ears" method, then go with frag at the very least, my Cadians use that term all the time. Along with warp and using the term "the Eye" as a swearing matter.

Funny enough, I don't remember Catachans from the novel Death World swearing at all, they all just had stupid names such as "Lorenzo" and "Patch Armstrong" plus a strong lemming-like desire to die at certain points in the novel to fullfill some human deus ex machina moment.

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King Kento

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 12:22 am


I think the porrly made sequel to crusade for armegeddon had the ork bunters saying "Frik, Frikken" and so on. Which was realistic I thought, after so long simple slang for freak and freaking become their own words.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 1:17 am


King Kento
I think the porrly made sequel to crusade for armegeddon had the ork bunters saying "Frik, Frikken" and so on. Which was realistic I thought, after so long simple slang for freak and freaking become their own words.
Armageddon is based partly on German themes, correct?

I direct you to this.

Ah-ha, tis genius!

Some Mook


Nuclearwinter

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:28 am


Lt. Brookman
Khek is used by Vostroyans and quite liberate by these simple neo-Russkies.

But Catachans and Cadians swear like real people do, so ********, s**t and piss should suffice. Should you go for the "safe for youngsters ears" method, then go with frag at the very least, my Cadians use that term all the time. Along with warp and using the term "the Eye" as a swearing matter.

Funny enough, I don't remember Catachans from the novel Death World swearing at all, they all just had stupid names such as "Lorenzo" and "Patch Armstrong" plus a strong lemming-like desire to die at certain points in the novel to fullfill some human deus ex machina moment.



Probally cause catachans are the most "American" of the imperial guard. Everyone else is either British, Russian, or German. Irish or Scottish for the Tanith 1st and the spacewolves too. (anything else I'm forgetting?)Cadians are "British" guardsmen as well aren't they?

Plus, I'm sure the various cuss words also depends on the author of the books written, and (like you said) probally so that younger kids can get into the game when their parents might still be offened by excessive curse words.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:02 am


Nuclearwinter
Lt. Brookman
Khek is used by Vostroyans and quite liberate by these simple neo-Russkies.

But Catachans and Cadians swear like real people do, so ********, s**t and piss should suffice. Should you go for the "safe for youngsters ears" method, then go with frag at the very least, my Cadians use that term all the time. Along with warp and using the term "the Eye" as a swearing matter.

Funny enough, I don't remember Catachans from the novel Death World swearing at all, they all just had stupid names such as "Lorenzo" and "Patch Armstrong" plus a strong lemming-like desire to die at certain points in the novel to fullfill some human deus ex machina moment.



Probally cause catachans are the most "American" of the imperial guard. Everyone else is either British, Russian, or German. Irish or Scottish for the Tanith 1st and the spacewolves too. (anything else I'm forgetting?)Cadians are "British" guardsmen as well aren't they?

Plus, I'm sure the various cuss words also depends on the author of the books written, and (like you said) probally so that younger kids can get into the game when their parents might still be offened by excessive curse words.


Scotish people are British, as are a percentage of the Irish.
I assume you meant English there?
Yes, I think so.
*Waves flag*


-Mykal

A.R.G.U.S Mykal


Nuclearwinter

PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:02 am


A.R.G.U.S Mykal
Nuclearwinter
Lt. Brookman
Khek is used by Vostroyans and quite liberate by these simple neo-Russkies.

But Catachans and Cadians swear like real people do, so ********, s**t and piss should suffice. Should you go for the "safe for youngsters ears" method, then go with frag at the very least, my Cadians use that term all the time. Along with warp and using the term "the Eye" as a swearing matter.

Funny enough, I don't remember Catachans from the novel Death World swearing at all, they all just had stupid names such as "Lorenzo" and "Patch Armstrong" plus a strong lemming-like desire to die at certain points in the novel to fullfill some human deus ex machina moment.



Probally cause catachans are the most "American" of the imperial guard. Everyone else is either British, Russian, or German. Irish or Scottish for the Tanith 1st and the spacewolves too. (anything else I'm forgetting?)Cadians are "British" guardsmen as well aren't they?

Plus, I'm sure the various cuss words also depends on the author of the books written, and (like you said) probally so that younger kids can get into the game when their parents might still be offened by excessive curse words.


Scotish people are British, as are a percentage of the Irish.
I assume you meant English there?
Yes, I think so.
*Waves flag*


-Mykal


My mistake, I get British and "English" mixed up at times. But you still see my point, yes?
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