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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:17 am
Im on the annoying majority?
Couldn't expect less from me!
Random post.
Madagascar sucks.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 9:20 am
Since I don't know if anyone even uses that match update thread anymore I guess I'm here to abide by the OOC restrictions and say that I'm done with about 3/4 or so of the Azure/Riona match for Madness. If you like technical and mat-based wrestling then you are going to love this, but if you're one of those idiots who just likes the exposing side of the business where they jump off s**t then I tell you now to avoid this match like the plague. And of course if you just like all wrestling then give it a shot.
By the way if anyone watched the WWE PPV last night how was Angle/HBK? Hopefully it was better than their first match because that turned into the drizzling shits less than half way through and had me bored to death by the end.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:08 am
@Austin: I read about the match. I seemed like it was better than their Wrestlemania match. It had alot of Ankle Locks in there though. That's the only problem...oh well. Beggers can't be choosers.
And I also see that you're not getting involved in all this "mules, rumors and gossip" business. Good idea. That's why I'm staying out of everything and being a neutral party.
Yes Ryan, that means I'm with you. I don't want to take any sides and I'm going to address another point right now.
Darson, thank you very much for saying that. It really means alot to me coming from you. I read that and I almost cried. It's nice to know some of the people around here actually appreciate what I try to do to help out the fed. And everything you said in that one paragraph is something I have been trying to get across to everyone for the past couple months. I'm not kissing anyone's a**, I try to get my matches and (few) promos done and posted on time. I have a life too, and sometimes things get too stressful and I also can't get online because I have to share one single computer with five other people. So if you can only imagine how hard that can be, then you can put yourself in my position.
Plus, you stated another fact that I've been trying to say, but couldn't find the words. I have always been reliable and dedicated. I really try to be. I realize that I was in BTWF, EGW and CTC all at one time back in October-November, but I always tried as hard as I could to get my stuff for the BTWF done first, because I was more reliable to the BTWF then EGW or CTC, and no offense to Tust or Ryan. I have always been dedicated and I always will be. I am the type of person that gets his mind set on something and I take care of it until it's done. I've always been that way and hopefully, I always will be.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:39 am
Confucius once say: Great wrestler can't just be concerned with jumping off things. That go for spotty wrestlers as well as ones who jump off the deep end at a speck of criticism.
That Confucius is one self-centered sonuvabitch...even more so than I am IC.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:02 pm
Darsandius Albronxo Now it's time for another fun rant... X talked about how in CTC, he jobbed to everyone at least once to make them feel good and so that they would have fun. That's an admirable tactic to make people feel special, X, and I think it was a good idea, but it wouldn't work in the BTWF for an important reason. We try to run the BTWF like an actual wrestling federation. And for me to job to everybody on the roster would make me, and thus the BTWF title, seeing as I'm the holder of it, look like a joke. Think about it. If Batista jobbed to every single person on RAW while holding the WHC, then no one would buy him as a credible champion. And I think some people are getting the idea from these comics all of a sudden that I never lose. That I just plow through everyone in my way. Do you guys even pay attention to what happens on Madness, and to what happens in my title matches? I lost to Kutterman in the six-man tag we had before ToG II. I let Voorhees kill me the ******** dead and crucify me before BloodBath. Now, if I REALLY wanted to be an egotistical p***k, I'd have destroyed Kutterman and the GoL, and I would've broken apart the chains on the symbol, flown down from the top of the arena with my mighty Samoan powers, and decapitated Voorhees with a flick of my finger. If you guys actually payed attention to GoE II and my match with Kutterman, and not just the outcome, they were really back and forth matches. Everybody in the GoE had a time where they could've held the title. Conners hopped down through the cage roof, and battled TT on the ladders and table before that. Kutterman climbed up the ladder at one point, so did Ford and Voorhees. Now if I wanted to put myself over like an a*****e, I would've gone through that entire match until the ladders came down, then destroyed everybody else in the match, set the ladder up, and grabbed the belt without any problems. I DIDN'T DO THAT. Kutterman got some big moves on me that could've won him the title, as did Conners. I don't write squash matches, and I think you guys are seeing my title defenses as such. And it's not like nobody ever has a chance of holding a title in the BTWF. Tell me, how many of you thought that DarkFyre would never hold a title around Civil War or so? I'm sure 90% of you didn't. Yet there he goes, taking the tag titles at ToG II. Why? Because DF has been reliable throughout his BTWF career, and while he may not be the best writer (OMG HEZ NOT AN AMZING RIGHTER AND WE STIILL GAV HIM A TITOL~!!!111one!!!1), he consistently puts effort into his work and tries to better himself. His title reign has nothing to do with a**-kissing. He's a reliable, committed writer, and that's what got him the titles. Which brings me to my next point. X thinks that to be a champion, you should be well-liked by the roster and have a connection to them. I think that while that is a nice plus, it is far from the most important condition to hold a title. If we went by that logic, Heat would be the constant champion right now, because he's one of the most well-liked people here on the roster. Now, I don't think many people like Austin Azure that much (though they don't seem to realize that his posts are IC), but yet he held the TV Title for the longest time of any champion so far, and he's currently in a high-profile feud. Why? Say it with me kids. He's reliable and dedicated. That's all you guys need to have to get a push. Reliability and dedication. You don't need to be a diplomat. You don't need to be the greatest writer on Gaia. You just need to put forth the effort to show that you care about the BTWF, and you want to work for a title or push. Is that really that hard of a concept? I wouldn't call this a rant. Just a response. Dear Darson, I'm not suggesting you job to everyone. I am simply pointing out that sometimes a sacrifice needs to be made along the lines, champion or no champion. And when you see your title run get to the point where people end up going "Yeah, Darson is going to win." then that is where you should make the sacrifice. There's no need to announce it, just do it. It only takes credibility from every other one of your challengers and turns you into a Triple H, or Single H, whichever works for you. And if you remember the whole JBL reign or the Triple H reign, his opponents lined up and no matter how respected they were, everyone would go "Yeah, Triple H/JBL will win." At the very least, that's how I saw it. Anyway, back to sacrifices. I had to make those sacrifices to show my roster members and potential roster members that I wasn't bullshitting them out of their hardwork. In the end it paid off, except for Schneider's case. He was never so understanding. But anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say is right now your reign made a few people feel like you urinated on their career. Like The Undertaker, a guy who is "fed" superstars and another shining example of what not to become. Now I know Darson has pretty back and forth with his matches, but let's face it, no one ever expected him to lose these past few months in a PPV match unless it were to Killa Kal or Twist. Well, that's what a lot of people feel anyway. Personally I could care less since I'm not in the title picture. I'm just analyzing. Next up, the whole "I don't lose at all" thing. I know you lose Darson, but that's the traditional loss that most smarks and marks-alike count on. Sure you can lose in a tag match or lose in a normal match due to interference, but that's standard stuff, which is why most Madness matches aren't so "spectacular" compared to the PPV matches. The titles? I'm not saying people aren't getting them. But many feel like they're getting the wrong title in a way. I suppose it's because everyone tries their best and expects to get the best (WHC) and end up taking things out on the moderators. Then of course it spells out trouble because people start to lose interest in their own matches and all motivation is lost. There's not much I can say to counter what Darson said, mostly because I agree with him. Instead of stopping to complain just keep up your hard work and eventually you'll be rewarded if a title is worth that much. Don't forget that also, people sometimes perform better with the belt. At that point it's all about faith. I don't think being a champion is all about being well connected with the roster. That's why I have so many other things that I feel would make a champion. And like you said, it is a plus but isn't necessary. However, as a FACE champion I feel perhaps instead of being condescending all the time and acting like an OOC heel, where the credibility from your IC character won't be taken away, be a little more respectable. It's kind of like watching John Cena on WWE TV. He's over with all fans because he genuinely enjoys their presence even backstage. Now imagine if some mark came by and tried to talk with him and get an autograph or two. If Cena immediately blew him off without even trying to be nice, his credibility with that mark is over. Imagine being a condescending jerk to even more people out of character and you'll see how much credibility your face run has left. That's just an example. I'm not saying you're a jerk Darson, but a lot of people don't look too highly on you and quite frankly ranting back condescendingly (been using that word a lot lately) might not exactly bode well for you. Then again most of those views aren't mine personally but others. Keep in mind that I don't care about all of that OOC heel and IC heel mumbo-jumbo, but I know a lot of other people probably do. Salutations from the Combat Ace P.S. One more note, don't call the rest of your roster "kids". Even if you're probably older than most of them and what-not. They tend to listen less to you if experience has ever taught me anything. This is why I hated high school for the duration of my time there.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:13 pm
And i tough this week was.. much better...., im this close to really get invovled.. comeon everyone, im siding to no one since im not active but i do have friends here so that takes me out.. so please.. stop this..im not youre not he's not stuff ... i think another mexican rant is on the way.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:17 pm
LatinoHeat And i tough this week was.. much better...., im this close to really get invovled.. comeon everyone, im siding to no one since im not active but i do have friends here so that takes me out.. so please.. stop this..im not youre not he's not stuff ... i think another mexican rant is on the way. I don't really see it as arguing. I'm more about trying to clear things up and of course express a counter-opinion. When views go one-sided I get annoyed. I just enjoy a balance and will stop when I reach the point that I feel I've said enough. Add: Like I told Killa Kal, the BTWF Rosters and the CTC Rosters were different. The BTWF consists of large egos while the CTC consisted of people who enjoyed themselves with some ego. This all leads to backstage politics, which I keep on hearing. I hate that stuff. And you guys really need to stop talking behind each other's backs and just let loose. Have fun.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 3:53 pm
Relax ese relax.. i was just me being me.. i find all of this very amusing.. you dont know how people can react.. so fun.
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 8:40 pm
One question Heat, why would you get involved? I'm not trying to be mean, but if you haven't been here for like a month or two, why are you trying to get involved in something that isn't that big of a deal?
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 8:24 am
Killa Kal One question Heat, why would you get involved? I'm not trying to be mean, but if you haven't been here for like a month or two, why are you trying to get involved in something that isn't that big of a deal? Fine fine. i understand.. i go now, thanks for being so honest.
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 12:14 pm
Yeah, I'm going to add a bunch of quotes to the Feedback section without asking. Too much to keep track of.
Add: No! There's a typo in the last comic. I spelt building 'bbuilding'. Worst part is I can't fix it either. Bah! I feel so unrefined.
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:18 pm
[ X ] I wouldn't call this a rant. Just a response. Dear Darson, I'm not suggesting you job to everyone. I am simply pointing out that sometimes a sacrifice needs to be made along the lines, champion or no champion. And when you see your title run get to the point where people end up going "Yeah, Darson is going to win." then that is where you should make the sacrifice. There's no need to announce it, just do it. It only takes credibility from every other one of your challengers and turns you into a Triple H, or Single H, whichever works for you. And if you remember the whole JBL reign or the Triple H reign, his opponents lined up and no matter how respected they were, everyone would go "Yeah, Triple H/JBL will win." At the very least, that's how I saw it. Anyway, back to sacrifices. I had to make those sacrifices to show my roster members and potential roster members that I wasn't bullshitting them out of their hardwork. In the end it paid off, except for Schneider's case. He was never so understanding. But anyway, I guess what I'm trying to say is right now your reign made a few people feel like you urinated on their career. Like The Undertaker, a guy who is "fed" superstars and another shining example of what not to become. I try to think that losing to me once doesn't destroy a person's entire career. Just becuase they lost to me doens't mean they're never going to get a title shot again, nor does it mean that their work added up to nothing. You lost once, big deal. Keep working. Challenge again at some point. You might get it that time. [ X ] Now I know Darson has pretty back and forth with his matches, but let's face it, no one ever expected him to lose these past few months in a PPV match unless it were to Killa Kal or Twist. Well, that's what a lot of people feel anyway. Personally I could care less since I'm not in the title picture. I'm just analyzing. Well, I'm not really sure who's fault that is. I suppose we should try and work harder on building people up before title shots, but I don't think that'll work anymore, just because everyone is so dead-set on thinking that I'm HHH and I'm going to hold this title for months, drop it for two, then get it back. They're wrong, by the way. [ X ] Next up, the whole "I don't lose at all" thing. I know you lose Darson, but that's the traditional loss that most smarks and marks-alike count on. Sure you can lose in a tag match or lose in a normal match due to interference, but that's standard stuff, which is why most Madness matches aren't so "spectacular" compared to the PPV matches. Which brings me back to my point that people don't care about anything in the BTWF except for PPVs, and winning titles on said PPVs. BTWF isn't all about the titles, guys. I know you guys want to hold the titles. You wouldn't be bothering to work hard if you didn't. But you should be able to have fun in the BTWF without being a champion. You should be able to have fun writing the matches for the feud you're currently involved in. And if you aren't, talk to Blade. He'll fix it. His booking isn't final, guys. It can be changed if needed. [ X ] The titles? I'm not saying people aren't getting them. But many feel like they're getting the wrong title in a way. I suppose it's because everyone tries their best and expects to get the best (WHC) and end up taking things out on the moderators. Then of course it spells out trouble because people start to lose interest in their own matches and all motivation is lost. There's not much I can say to counter what Darson said, mostly because I agree with him. Instead of stopping to complain just keep up your hard work and eventually you'll be rewarded if a title is worth that much. Don't forget that also, people sometimes perform better with the belt. At that point it's all about faith. Not everybody gets a WHC title shot right away. You have to be consistently diligent and dedicated to get that. Conners had a really good streak of writing when he came back during the winter. That's why he got his title shots against Omega and then me. Of course, we tried to keep his character strong through interference, but it really looks like all you guys see is "Dar still has the title, I don't care." It's really frustrating because Blade tries to put these guys over, but apparently if you aren't WHC, then you aren't over to the BTWF. [ X ] I don't think being a champion is all about being well connected with the roster. That's why I have so many other things that I feel would make a champion. And like you said, it is a plus but isn't necessary. However, as a FACE champion I feel perhaps instead of being condescending all the time and acting like an OOC heel, where the credibility from your IC character won't be taken away, be a little more respectable. It's kind of like watching John Cena on WWE TV. He's over with all fans because he genuinely enjoys their presence even backstage. Now imagine if some mark came by and tried to talk with him and get an autograph or two. If Cena immediately blew him off without even trying to be nice, his credibility with that mark is over. Imagine being a condescending jerk to even more people out of character and you'll see how much credibility your face run has left. That's just an example. I'm not saying you're a jerk Darson, but a lot of people don't look too highly on you and quite frankly ranting back condescendingly (been using that word a lot lately) might not exactly bode well for you. You know, in general, I try to be a nice, friendly, approachable person. I mean, I don't run around the guild insulting people for fun. I try to join in on the conversations and have fun, just like everybody else in the guild. I can't really think of an example right now where I came off condescending, except for some instances where I was trying to stop fights to keep anymore drama from being mixed into the guild. Because I hate drama. Sadly, we have a lot of it going on right now. And I know my rants come off as condescending, because I tend to debate with passion. And I usually try to convince people with my arguments. So they may come off a little egotistical, but they're really just intended to show my point of view in a clear-cut way. I mean, seriously, did anybody here not like me OOC for any other reason other than holding the title before this thing started? Except for Craig, maybe, but I don't like Craig either, so that point is pretty moot. [ X ] Then again most of those views aren't mine personally but others. Keep in mind that I don't care about all of that OOC heel and IC heel mumbo-jumbo, but I know a lot of other people probably do. Salutations from the Combat Ace P.S. One more note, don't call the rest of your roster "kids". Even if you're probably older than most of them and what-not. They tend to listen less to you if experience has ever taught me anything. This is why I hated high school for the duration of my time there. I wasn't trying to insult by using kids, there. I was just trying to drive my point home with the whole "reliable and dedicated" thing. It was a mix of sarcasm and satire. My apologies if anybody felt belittled by it. But another thing I want to ask is...Should I even bother writing good title matches anymore? Because really, all it seems like people pay attention to is the fact that I won. Does the fact that I still have the title completely destroy any good feelings you guys have about the matches? Do you hate GoE II because I won? Because if that's the way it is, then I won't even bother putting any work into my matches if you guys don't care whether they're good or bad. I write good matches so you guys can enjoy them. But if the only thing that determines whether or not you enjoy a match is who wins, then forget it. I'll write three paragraphs and call it a day.
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:04 pm
Azure/Riona II: The Match That Will Be Better Than Yours is done, but I just wanted to give fair warning to the person who is posting after me to WAIT UNTIL I HAVE THE ENTIRE MATCH POSTED. That is all.
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:19 pm
That was quite an answer dars, now i awai to see what X responds.. you know we could open another tread and name it BTWF debate place.. this was the random funny stuff.
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Posted: Tue Jun 28, 2005 4:57 pm
Bah, why do I have to answer? I've got chlorine in my head and about 30 pages to read for my college class. Maybe tomorrow.
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