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allright thanks for the tips i went out and orded a few guys and bought what little they have in stalk lol the termatior lord looks rather nice

Depending on Mark and their kit, Terminator Lords can be damned scary. Lets look at it this way:

TermLord + Mark of Khorne = Give him 2x Lightning Claws or a Bloodfeeder. He will immediately become a CC ogre and should deep strike in with a unit of Khornate Terminators, at least two of them packing 2x Lightning Claws. One in that squad should have a Reaper Autocannon, the rest should have Power Weapons and Combi-Bolters (Combi-Melta makes them scary, too).

TermLord + Mark of Tzeentch = Depends. If you make him a Sorcerer, give him Warptime and Doombolt. Doombolt will make him a powerful threat at range. Only use Warptime if you're against a large squad of single wound models in CC, though. If you're against a single character or are going to have the Sorcerer target a multi-wound model, have him save his psychic power for his Force Weapon. If he is a normal Chaos Lord, give him a Deathscreamer. d6 Doombolt shots at 24" range is nasty, especially given that it gives the standard of +d6 Power Weapon attacks in CC.

TermLord + Mark of Nurgle = This punk will be survivable. T5 with a 2+ save is nothing to be sniffed at. This will be at the best benefit in, believe it or not, CC. You can give him the Plaguebringer, but it's only worth it against big nasties given that it is a Poisoned 4+ weapon.

TermLord + Mark of Slaanesh = Best Daemon Weapon of the lot. It's the only one that causes Instant Death. Benefit of a Force Weapon without needing to roll Ld. Also, his heightened Initiative will put him on par with Eldar characters, making him a much more effective threat up close. However, Slaaneshi CSM have one of the most broken powers in the game: Lash of Submission. 24" range. All you have to do is pass a psychic test after declaring your target (must be an enemy). If you pass, you are allowed to move that squad 2d6" in any direction that you choose. They are not slowed by difficult terrain, but you can move them through DANGEROUS terrain and force them to possibly take some casualties. Best use of it, though, is to run your enemy toward some assault specialists that might not have range otherwise.

hmm i like there rules playing tau makes you forget the good things like cheap rules a yes but i was wondring is it worth buying the full groups of plages or should i just by the sholder pad upgrades and paint them towards it? the people at the GW near me are well to be bluntly said SM only info past that there kidna blaa inside

all right thanks sicne id have to wait about 2 months to get plagues sicne they will only order them when they have more then 3 sets of orders and i dont want to order 4 full sets of guys just so i can get a few to use

o they have kites at the gw its just kinda sad we have close to nothing lol are shops a small little place with only 2 tables now

but at are GM they have full sets to convert your men from forgeworld sicne im still new to CSM but some of the other players there make it seem like you must have all sholders or its not a real squad thank you for clerfing that for me you just saved me about 35$ lol

Renegades holding a giant gun so big that two of them need it. For some reason, I'd think they would die pretty fast ._.