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stressed Damnit. Thanks though for clarification.

I couldnt say anything about the upgraded psyker. I hear about that set up for them, but to me he still has todeal the wound to get the psyckic test and hes working with S3. I suppose it could work, but Ill keep my psychics to stronger models such as marines and the inquisition.

Cut some stuff out, you want to WIN. Sportmanship is only for those who love watching their own armies go boom.

Drop the Bionics on all 4, as well as Carapace. 40 points free'd there. Medi-pack is only needed if you intend your command squad to be in LoS, which it rarely should be. Can be kept, though. Drop one of the veterans back to basic infantry, make the other a Standard. You want the 12" Leadership bubble with rerolls.

Plasma can overheat, and might draw more attention to your command squad. Dropping it increases both the models survival rate and the chances of the command going ignored. Same goes for the Plasma Pistol. And Powersword with Refractor field? You're paying out 25pts for a model to do combat. A model with 3 S3 WS4 I4 attacks. The command should be about hiding somewhere and keeping your army in line, not charging in (As let's face it, if something breaks past your mass of Guardsmen, odds are 3 S3 powerweapon strikes won't help).

Drop the stuff I stated above, plus this, you save around 90 points. That's over one whole new squad of Guardsmen, or two setinels.

With the points spared, add Sharpshooters.

Thudd? Not familiar? You mean heavy Bolters? Whatever, add Sharpshooters.

You're paying points to kill your own officers. They also aren't much better then officers in combat. Paying 112 points right there to kill officers and get 8 S3 Power Weapon attacks. Okay, though it relies on you having the time to strike back. Usually, I'd say drop these. If you REALLY need the LD, though, drop the PW, Bionics, and Carapace (They always should be in a squad, where those won't really matter). If you must give combat equips, take a PF just so you wound on 2's (Only viable here as a commissar has 10 alabative wounds before he's hit). 10 points spared.

Drop the squad to 6 models. The squad is only there to jump in and Frag a vehicle. Meltabombs require you to survive one turn of shooting, assaults, then have a clear run at another vehicle which had ample time to speed 12" away. 45 points spared.

Deepstriking GL's aren't that good. For the cost of this squad, you could buy 3 unupgraded platoons to your force. 3 times the shots (Or 1.5 at long range as uppossed to DS rapid fire), which hit enough times as is. Either drop to 6 and replace the GL's with Melta's, or Drop. 45 points spared.

Carapace armor is useless due to mixed armor rule. Switch the Plasma to a Melta, and turn the two veterans into Melta's, or turn this into a 5-man suicide squad with 4 Plasma Guns. Since you're a static army, this sounds best for eliminating those Pesky 3+ saves before combat. Around 10 points spared.

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Veteran Sergeant
9 Guardsmen (Sharpshooters, Flamerthrower) 76 Drop Sharpshooters. Not worth it. Same as Veteran Sergeant (Ld 9 with reroll for suggested Officer above). 15 points saved.

Drop sharpshooters, replace Missile with either Las or Autocannon. Why? Statistically better for BS3 models against vehicles. Auto's do better on average against AV 13 or less, and a Las better in all categories. If you have the missile to place two small blast templates (One from GL, one from ML), drop missile and put in a Heavy bolter. 15 points saved.

Melta bombs are not good, as you need to keep the Chim stationary to jump out and use 'em. Sharp Shooters also isn't good. Krak grenades go for the same reason. And HK missile isn't needed. It's a BS3 Krak missile that is either overkill against the HB targets, or makes the HB and Multi shots wasted against a Missile target. 40 points saved.

Keep the hunting lances on all of them, drop Carapace for mixed armor rule, drop PW and leave with lance. If they don't break on charge, they lost anyways. They're meant to use 11 S5 Power Weapon attacks in one turn in an attempt to crack a few Termi's before their deaths. 15 points saved.

SL's are worthless. Drop 'em. You're vehicle will be doing one of three things. Firing, being stunned, or dead. Also, drop the lascannon and Hunter-killer. For the same reason. Overkill for Sponson and Stubber shots. Replace with a HB so you get 9 S5 AP4 shots and 3 S4 AP6 shots when the cannon pops. Saves around 20 points.


Drop something for Close-Order drill if possible. Why? +1 LD is very useful. Ld.10 with re-roll from your HQ.

285 points spared, if math is correct. That's a whole 'nother set of a Command Platoon with 3 Basic Platoons.

No clue what DD-99 is.

Hell, I want to see the Traitor list and info in the newest one.

The Arch-Heretic von Shreck and Retinue
Heroic Senior Officer with Power Sword and Iron Discipline.
Carapace Armor and Frag Grenade Equipped Squad. – 105 Points

The Arch-Heretic’s Guard
10 Storm Troopers, with Plasma Rifle and Meltagun – 120 Points
10 Storm Troopers, with Plasma Rifle and Meltagun – 120 Points

Captured Leman Russ Main Battle Tank
Hull Heavy Bolter, with Heavy Bolter Sponsons and Heavy Stubber – 155 Points

500 Points Total



A small list, but I think it would do wonderfully. Slower than my earlier one, but easier on my wallet. I also think the sheer firepower of the Leman Russ balances out the speed issue, and the Iron Discipline means that a carefully positioned HQ gives my Storm Troopers Leadership 9 and can pull them together if they flee.

It works, I checked it up. Plus, failing Morale checks is a major problem for me.

If you had two leftover autocannons or lascannons that could be modeled into autocannons, you could have a Leman Russ Exterminator for 120 points without the sponsons, upgrades and hull weapon.

'Ey gits. Great news. New toy for us dog soldiers over the summer. And if you can not figure out what it is, you are either stupid as a sack of bricks or do not know s**t about the Imperial Guard.