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Morgenmuffel

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 6:53 pm


LOL, ok, just breathe.

Your questions: Ok, the calls first. You may not hear from your husband for 2-3 weeks at first in BCT and then, depending on where he is stationed will depend on how often he can call you and for how long. My hubby for example, got three phone calls the entire 11 weeks he was gone. One for 3 minutes, one for 5 minutes and one for 15. Now some of them allow a 15 minute call a week, it really just depends on where he is and unless you have an emergency, you can't contact him. If you needed to, I believe you'd use the Red Cross to do so.


AIT: In general, the official answer is "No," you can't go and be with him. But I've known people that have gone anyway and I believe Luna went that route, hehe. But they really frown on spouses being with them until they are done with AIT because it's the next phase of BCT so they're still living in quarters on post and have to check in, are restricted, all that stuff. They can't live in seperate quarters with a family yet.

Visiting: first opportunity would be graduation day from BCT, maybe the day before if they have a "family day," where you can check them out for the afternoon to go and do whatever you like as long as they are back by a designated time. And maybe for a few days after, depending on when they have to report for AIT. Then I believe they might get some leave after that's done, but I'm not 100% sure on it.

AFTER AIT, you should be good to go and live with him.

It's hard, but you can do it. ;]
PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:06 pm


Dirge put it best. I want to say my husband got to call more when he was in the processing beginning stages and not really so often once it went underway. It was really rough at the time, but I tried to keep busy with my job to pass the time and write letters everyday. Like Dirge said, the Red Cross will only contact if there's an emergency in the family.

As for AIT, technically, no. They will NOT pay for moving there since generally it is only for a few weeks/months. Did I listen? Not really. I moved out to San Antonio where he was in AIT and stayed in a studio apartment. It was nice to see him but very rough. I would get to see him for maybe an hour a day (if they weren't on lockdown) and when they earn the priveledges, on the weekend. They do frown on that, and I THINK we were supposed to technically get seperation pay for that time, we didn't dispute it cause it was rather obvious, lol.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 9:48 pm


thats absoultely crazy i can not be apart that long and the reason i am wanting to leave my home is because my family is the reason that we were have issuse in the first place i dont think i can wait until mid march to see him again its bad enough that 9 or so weeks is too long but from what his recruiter said i should be able to go with him when he is suppose to be there in december
PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:41 am


Eris_Rose
thats absoultely crazy i can not be apart that long and the reason i am wanting to leave my home is because my family is the reason that we were have issuse in the first place i dont think i can wait until mid march to see him again its bad enough that 9 or so weeks is too long but from what his recruiter said i should be able to go with him when he is suppose to be there in december


I know it's rough and it seems like they're being unfair, but I have to be blunt. Expect MORE of stuff like this. What are you going to do if he has to deploy? It sucks to be apart that long and it may seem like you can't, but be strong you CAN do it! Certain AIT schools make exceptions to move the family with the soldier, but it's rare and the AIT has to be very long. And I would find a way to verify whether you can or not from someone OTHER than the recruiter. I'm not saying recruiters lie, but sometimes they don't know the whole truth. They had told me his AIT was only going to be a month and it ended up being a few on top of a year of nursing school. So, thing can change in a blink.

I wanted to add the reason why I moved to be with him for AIT was because I was pregnant and I had Logan the DAY after he graduated AIT. I think that is the main reason why they weren't strict about me being there. It really depends on his MOS, the unit, his superiors on how strict they want to be.

It's hard, but you CAN do it!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 1:25 pm


Eris, this is the easy stuff, so I'd try to do like Luna and I did [and who knows how many other people have done?!]. Get engrossed in a hobby. If you have a job, see if you can work more. Do something to keep your mind off of it. Write him letters every day. It's just the way the cookie crumbles but you know what? The time goes by really fast and compared to some other things you may have to go through like unaccompanied tours overseas, this really is the easy stuff.

You're stronger then you give yourself credit for. Just take it a day at a time and you'll do fine.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 3:31 pm


I think both Dirge and Luna have said almost everything there is to be said on the subject...but I have no advice, just know that your not alone Eris. It is a tough road ahead, no one is saying it's easy. But you need to be strong for both your daughters sake as well as your own. Time will pass by quickly, This isn't as long as some deployments he will probably have in the future. But good luck, you got it in you to do it.

Oh and and sometimes you gotta think of the recruiter like this..
recruiter = car salesman
The car salesman knows somewhat of whats going on under the hood, a mere rough understanding...but really he will say a lot of things you wanna hear just so you buy the car.

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Eris_Rose

PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 5:02 pm


the thing is that i live in complete hell with my mother right now and i really can not live like this anymore.

I am too the point i am going to have to move away soon
PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 9:53 am


Eris_Rose
the thing is that i live in complete hell with my mother right now and i really can not live like this anymore.

I am too the point i am going to have to move away soon


Well, while he's military you're going to be presented with situations where you aren't going to like certain things. The thing I stress is if you have no where to move to start paying rent and all, I wouldn't bring it up till after he finishes his basica and AIT. I mean, I like to tell my husband what's going on, but it's stressful enough and I know it gets to him that he can't do a lot of things to help out.

Honestly, is it so bad you're going to risk getting him in trouble by moving whereever he is for AIT?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 12:40 pm


I have to agree with Luna. It's kind of old fashion to the rest of the world matbe, but as a military wife you have to be extra supportive of your husband. You have to remember that no matter what you in it together and he's doing his part so you have to do yours, which is put up with a pretty fair amount of crap that you have no control over. It's not that bad, but it sometimes seems that way. (I didn't read all the prior post so hopefully I didn't just say something retarded)
PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:36 pm


I am not sure its just awful being with my mother she tells me when and how to breath all of the time she thinks that she needs to control everything and everyone around her.

I could not even try to work things out with my husband because she wanted me to listen to her and pick her over my husband and my child she doesnt want me to be happy she thinks because she is bitter i have to bitter and alone too.

i can deal with my husband beign away for a purpose and to get everything in order but what i can not deal with not being able to be that supportive to my husband

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 9:02 pm


Eris, this is going to sound cold, but DEAL WITH IT! You cannot change the militarys mind no matter how much you complain. They won't listen to you because...

#1 - You're just the spouse and therefore automatically come last.
#2 - You married a soldier, and inherited all sorts of crap that comes with it.
#3 - You have no say. See #1, as well as your opinion does not matter.

Basic/AIT is the least of your worries. There are deployments, field exercizes, 24 hour duties, and random moves to different states and/or countries. Those of us who have been doing this for a long while know what we're talking about. I've been a military wife for eight years. I've also been a soldier, walking your mans' shoes.

If you're living in your mothers' house, then it stands to reason that you need to follow her rules. She's not kicked you out, and she also still sees you as her little girl. It's a parental flaw you'll find yourself having in the future. It's normal. If you're that unhappy with your mothers' house and rules, move out. However, your mother needs to realize that your a married woman and a mother yourself. That you have to put your own family first now.

As for being supportive? Lots and lots of letters. As soon as you get an address send them off. Keep writing. Believe me on this. Letters from home make all the difference. They don't replace the sound of your loved ones voice, but they do help fill the void, and give you something to look forward to.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 10:35 pm


Eris, even if you can't go to where he is, if you feel you need to move out couldn't you just move somewhere around where you are instead? I'm not sure of your situation. It's hard missing someone and not having any support yourself. Just try to remember that you are an adult,and a mom. No matter what your mom wants, if you want to be happy, set your goals, make a plan, stick to it, and there isn't much she can do to ruin that. Also have you tried being straight forward about your feelings with your mom? Sometimes you might be surprized. Then again sometimes people are just psyco beasts, and can't be reasoned with. gonk Either way I hope things get better for you. heart

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:07 am


*sighs*

Letter is all i have been writting out ever since all this crap started with mom.
Ok...All i do is cry because i have no one to talk to all my mother ever does is trash talk jarred(hubby).
She tells me that he is never comming back for me and the baby.

and as for following her rules fine but G-Dame she even want to control how and when i fart this is crazy to have her tell me that i can not take my daughter to a
b-day party at my friends house.

I am just wonder how much long i am going to take of her abuse before i snap and she kicks me out which she has done twice once when i was 19 right before we got married and last time was when i was 7 months pregnate.

I hate unload on everyone here but i have no one to talk to

I am sorry
PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 12:00 pm


I'm no longer a military wife, but I was one for 4 years AND I was a soldier myself for a time, so I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents.

Eris, I have a SUPER control freak mother like you do. She CONSTANTLY criticizes me, my parenting, my choices, my clothes, my hair, my sleeping habits, my husband, my cooking, my housekeeping, my phone activity, my internet activity, my hobbies, my friends, EVERYTHING. And I am in no way exaggerating in the slightest. I just had to stay with her temporarily while we got settled in here in Alabama as she was th eonly relative I have in this area. And I SERIOUSLY considered just leaving every single second of everyday that I was there. The woman is pretty much a nut. And even though I have moved out and am in my own home now, she calls at the a**-crack of dawn about 45 times and leaves really mean messages on my phone if I don't get up out of bed and have pointless conversations with her that consist of, "What are you doing?" "Trying to sleep. IT's 6:30AM." "HOW CAN YOU SLEEP THIS LATE? YOU'RE A BAD PERSON!" And then she hangs up on me to call back about 5 minutes later. She doesn't care that we were all still sleeping. She doesn't care if I was using the bathroom. So I know what you must be going through with your mother. And yes, it's damned hard to even be around people like that let alone have to live with them. But it CAN be done. I had to stay with her for about 2 months or so. And even though I felt like screaming all the time, I dealt with it. And now it's over and I never have to live with her ever again. *Praises every holy entity that there is.*

As for dealing with your hubby being gone and not having his support... well, I've been there too. When my husband joined the Air Force, my new born son was only 3 months old. He left for bootcamp, and I had to stay behind and deal with EVERYTHING alone. I was a first time mother with no hubby there for back up and support. I wanted to just cry everyday. But these are just the normal rigors of military-wifehood. I knwo it's your husband who signed a contract with the government, but in a sense you signed one as well. Because you're his wife, you have to deal with this just like he does. Believe me, he's not enjoying what he's going through either. I'm sure he wishes like mad everyday that he could come home at night to you, but he can't. In the military, EVERYONE must sacrifice. It's part of protecting our country. They don't just give you a free house, free health care, and all the other nice benefits for joining the military without expecting some sacrifice in return.

he WILL be done soon enough, and then things will go back to normal, pretty much. But if you plan on staying married to him, and he plans on staying in the military, then this is something you WILL HAVE TO GET USED TO. He will be deployed. He will have to work insane work schedules. He will miss out on birthday parties and other special things. Even if we weren't at war right now, these things would still happen, but because we ARE at war, it's gonna happen a lot more frequently especially depending on what job he has.

I have a cousin who is in Ammo, and he gets deployed about once every 3 or 4 months for weeks and months at a time across the globe. But this is just how things are. No one can stop it or change it. All we can do is adapt and accept and go on with our lives.

What you may wanna try, is maybe seeing if their are any other military spouses in your area and see if they have a support group you can join. Write tons of letters as often as possible. Occupy your time with a hobby. Do some volunteer work somewhere. Get your mind off of missing him as much as you can, because the more you think of it, the worse it will be.

As for your mother, you're just gonna have to ignore her and bite your tongue. That's what I have to do with mine. Keep reminding yourself that you're not gonna have to live with her forever. There will come a time when you get to leave and then you won't have to deal with her comments and actions as much anymore.

I know it's hard. I know how you feel, but there really isn't any realistic thing you can do besides waiting it out. We've all been there, and we made it. You can too.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:54 pm


Just wanted to add one more thing....

I don't know about the Army, but in the Air Force, during my husband's Tech School (that's that the AF calls AIT), I was able to live in base housing on the base he was training at. He was NOT allowed to live with me at first, but as he progressed with his training, he was allowed to move out of barracks and into the house with me. He was referred to as a "SepRat" (Separate Rations). All married soldiers in the AF are considered SepRats. Anyways, he had to earn the privledge to move in with us. Any minor screw-up and they'd have put him right back into barracks until his Tech School was over.... and his was over a year long. Before they allowed him to move in with us in base housing, we did get to come have visits with him on the weekends. I could bring our son (this was before our daughter was born) and hang out with him all day until his curfew. We could go anywhere on base pretty much, but he was not allowed to leave base AND he had to be in uniform at all times.

Sooooo, you may wanna call the base he will be stationed at during AIT and ask if you could do something similar. Like I said, I don't know if the Army allows it, but the AF does and they're fine with it. It'd be worth asking about at least. That way, you'd be out of your mother's hair, and you'd be a bit closer to your hubby. But if you can't, then I stand by my original post.
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