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 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:16 am
I thought Deflection was just for blocking Force Powers? Deflecting blasters and such, I didn't think they could do that.
Me, I thought it was just for Force Powers, like...like Windu pushing the Lighning away from him (though, that was probably Feedback), although that might have been the lightsaber (or a combo of the two).
Deflecting blasters...well, Order 66 apparently seemed to show that it wasn't a widely practiced skill. And Vader blocking a blasterbolt with his hand, I thought the official stance was that he had an armored glove?
xd I think part of the reason Chidee whipped out the blaster is because everybody 'knows' that you'd need a lightsaber to block blasters. If that isn't so, I assume much hilarity will ensue as Drako takes steps to correct his misinformation.
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:38 am
W/E. can't please everyone.
Windu doing the reflection of the lightsaber comes part from the lighstaber, and the other from Juyo itself. the seventh style allows for someone to reflect such an attack back at the person. It works on lightning, but not on push and pull and such.
It turns you into a superconduit.
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:19 am
Huh, okay.
You know, that might actually be an interesting trick if Drako does it...I mean, it kinda makes me think of Exar Kun's story, how at the start of his fall, he was basically told "Join or die.".
So, for Chidee, when all of his tricks fail, when he has nothing left, he has no choice but to give in to the Dark Side or die.
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:05 pm
Isn't he already on the dark side though?
The dark side says simply to use emotion to fuel your attack. While all users will have to feel some emotion when fighting, there is nothing in the dark side's philosophy that says you can't let their emotions kill them. In fact, its probably encouraged. So long as you keep being agressive and corrupted.
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 12:24 pm
Well, mostly.
Well, I think he's approaching the Dark Side more from Greed, Pride, and the like, rather than the more traditional Fear Anger Hatred thing.
Also, he doesn't really trust the Dark Side, I don't think, because it seems all the users simply lose control of themselves and/or get stupid. For him, self-control is the best path towards achieving one's goals. Like...rage, hatred, and all that gives one power, but takes away control.
It also seems the Dark Side exacts a heavy price without giving much in return.
Though, I'm starting to wonder why he'd want to be a Sith Lord or a Jedi or whatever, anyway. I mean, it doesn't really give one much power, compared to money, armies, fleets, and the like, and it takes much from you.
Ah well, maybe he had a natural talent for the Force, and couldn't resist the calling. I don't know.
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:48 pm
I dunno.
Palpetine sure had a strong hold on the galaxy despite being a sith lord. I mean, everyone knows that a senator from naboo can take over the galaxy with no trouble.
Sure....
Oh, and the skill Battle Medidtation is completely useless against armies... I mean, it only is able to totally defeat the enemy.
Right...
What "heavy toll" are you suggesting? What, enhanced senses, stregth, speed, stronger mind, and the ability to influence the world around you at the touch of a finger not good enough, in exchage for a little face disfigurement?
Palps never "lost control" of himself or got "stupid". Last I remember he did pretty damn good for a simple Nabooian.
And the Dark side feeds on Emotions. Greed and pride are also emotions, not just hate and anger. Greed often creates fear and anger, and pride wil breed hate... They're all connected.
And despite the money and troops the CIS had, they sure didn't seem to be able to do much...
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:47 pm
Well, that hold was more through devious plotting than drawing upon the Dark Side of the Force, although he did often use the Force as part of his plots. I mean, the whole thing probably could have been accomplished without any one of the plotters being Sith.
As for Battle Meditation, I was never really sure what that did. It allows you to quickly calculate the optimal strategy for a battle? That's not exclusive to the Force users, though it is a rare talent (for both Force users and non-Force Users). Battle Meditation is pretty rare too, isn't it?
As for the toll, I'm talking about how most of them seem to go cacklingly insane, they're disfigured and physically weakened. Not to mention, they've got to watch out for Jedi, and for other pesky Sith.
Stronger mind does not seem to result from that does it? I mean, they use emotions to fuel their power, as opposed to icy plotting and reason. While the two aren't necessarily incompatible, they don't go together very well. You don't have to be a Jedi to be able to think, do you?
As for the CIS, they didn't use their money and troops right. And they were manipulated from the beginning, which also speaks ill of them.
I don't know, it just seems that most of the Jedi advantages seem to push personal power, strength, speed, etc...which isn't as useful on the larger scale. The Mind Trick might be good for negotiations and the like, but you've got to be more subtle with it there.
Chidee...eh, I'm thinking he generally tries to be dispassionate (though occassionally sarcastic or caustic). Maybe he's a bit of a sociopath, too.
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:39 pm
Battle medidtation is a skill that allows a force user to literally "will" a battle to go a certain way.
I.E. KotoR has Balista one of the few jedi to use Battle medidtation. It is through her doing that the Republic's forces are able to either break through the Sith lines or not.
What it does is basically demean the enemy and imbue the ally. Allies feel rejuvinated, encouraged, and physically, they become more advanced with quicker timing, bolder moves, more stunning feats. Enemies feel the opposite, sluggish, and slightly more afraid.
It even works outside of the body on entire fleets in space. Where an army may not stand a chance, they are able to exploit even the most minute weakness in a line. They will break through even the most fortified position in minutes, as enemy crews become less aware of their place in space, and suddenly start drifting off, and being taken by surprize from enemy fighters they should have seen.
The biggest thing is this: Battle Medidtation does not need to see the battle to affect it. You could be in a totally blacked out room, and still affect the battle. Its boundaries are limited only by the force user themself.
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:42 pm
I should answer another thing: Sith can think. They are not all machines. Look at Dooku. He has hatred, but is keen on revenge. He isn't a murderer, which is why he trains grevious to do his most dirty work, but is able to contend as a sith because of his hated reason. He's a count from Sirino (sp), so naturally he is one of the wealthiest single people in the universe. Which creates arrogance, pride, and greed.
Your character's mold.
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:12 pm
For Battle Mediatation, does one have to be absolutely, positively standing still, or can the Jedi in question be flying around in a fighter and such?
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:19 pm
Huh. Well, I'll think on all that while I'm working on Chidee. Thanks.
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:20 pm
Angelic Celestia For Battle Mediatation, does one have to be absolutely, positively standing still, or can the Jedi in question be flying around in a fighter and such? I don't really know how much movement affects the sway. I mean, jedi can link minds together and become stronger during battle, which essentially this is on a much grander scale, but the only time I've seen it is undisturbed meditation. It needs concious thought, for one, meaning that you have to actively think about it, which would suggest that during flight and such, would not be very good. *thinking* Battle medidtation.. battle medidtation... asteroid.... oh s**t... whew.... battle medidtation battlemedidtation...*thinking* Yea.... I really don't know. Bastilla used it to get to the bridge of Revan's ship, which suggests you can fight and use it, however, when you tell her to go help the republic, she says she will sit down and get to work on it, then she will go to the transport... which suggests that leading the fleet takes too much effort to concentrate and work with...
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:14 pm
so, have we gotten any new recruits for the last chapter of COTGCW?
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Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:17 pm
Cale Darksun so, have we gotten any new recruits for the last chapter of COTGCW? Yeah, have we?
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:08 pm
hmm. I got a question. Since Cale's been around the TSQ crystals, he's been developing a rather weak attunement to the force. would it be strong enough to warrant using the Force user Rules in his Episode 3 stats or would it be more of a side note?
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