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++x.Note.to.self.x++

PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 10:06 am


Hugin the Raven
*Prepares to hack apart Taylor_Highwind's theories.*

Let's see, now...

*Cracks his knuckles.*

Wheelchair dude is not Sephiroth. True.

About Geostigma... the foreign presence within the children could definitely be Sephiroth. As the movie explained it, Geostigma is the reaction of one's body when it's trying to cleanse itself of these foreign factors. It is highly possible that one of the children would have had the potential to become another Sephiroth.

Seeing as the man's soul was not entirely dispersed in the lifestream, then yes. This is quite a possibility. And had the plan succeeded, a frightening one.

Hojo is Sephiroth's father. True.

Aerith however, is a different story. Her father is Professor Gast Gainsbourough, founder of the Jenova Project and the study of the Ancients, as well the first one to actually have a clear idea on who and what Jenova is. This was due to an account from the last surviving member of the Cetra race- Ifalna.

The two grow close and fall in love. They have a child named Aerith... Gast is found out by Hojo; gets killed in defense of his family. Aerigh and Ifalna are captured and experimented on for the better part of their lives, until Ifalna escapes and dies at Sector Six station. Story picks up from there.

So yeah... *Loads his shotgun and opens fire.*

BLAM

Connection between Aerith and Sephiroth. None. Subtle messages aside, which I picked up quite easily, there is no way in the gene pool that the two of them are remotely related. Different mothers, different fathers, different time zones. I believe that was made perfectly clear when gamers took a trip to Icicle Inn and took that little side trip to Aerith's birthplace.

BLAM

Twins? Twins act the same in some way, shape, or form. Same beliefs, same histories, same mannerisms; this is even true with fraternal twins. These two are from different planets, as far as personality and how they act.

BLAM

Tseng having any sort of link to Lucrezia what-so-ever. Wrong. See statement about Aerith's birth. You also have a theory that contradicts this one- Hojo is Sephiroth's father, and Lucrecia was obviously infatuated with the man. Any advances by any other person would have been DENIED.

BLAM

Cloud activating Holy... come on, mayne. You must not have been playing the game all that much. Though the final scenes may have been confusing, they were pretty clear to me. Sephiroth was removed from Holy's path after being DISINTEGRATED by omnislash (I loved that scene!), and thus the defensive measure was free to act. While it's true that the sacred shield attempted to limit the damage, there is no way that Cloud could have command over such a massive force that has a will of its own.

The only one who could have had control over such a magic would be Aerith, and she already prayed for Holy's activation. Prayer awnsered, if it weren't for Sephiroth blocking the spell. Remove the wrench in the system, and the machine will move.

BLAM

Play it again; watch closely this time. Sorry if it's harsh, but I have a thing for this storyline, seeing as it was so involving.

Bai now.

[x]I'm really nervous about saying this, as I am probably going to get ripped apart. I don't mean any offense by contradicting your theory Hugin. Okay. I think that there is a connection between Aerith and Sephiroth. Ghast and Hojo worked together on the Jenova project. Hojo found out that Ghast was having a child with Ifalna, an Ancient, so he came to take the child. Ghast died in protection of his family. I think that Hojo may have injected Aerith with Jenova cells, considering what Allymoon said about Aerith and Sephiroth being opposites. This, considering that Ifalna is dead (I think), would allow Aerith to use her mother's Holy materia (the mother's materia bit I know becuase Aerith says it at the point where she first meets Cloud) because Aeith and Sephiroth would be the only Ancient-Jenova crosses left. This is why Cloud meets Aerith in the first place I think. Because she has the power to keep control of her psyche and not take part in 'Reunion' (due to the fact that Jenova came to the original Ancients giving them a virus, meaning that Aerith would have some sort of natural antibody to the virus being half-ancient), Cloud was drawn to her because of the fact that she and Sephiroth were connected (by the Holy-Meteor connection). (I will finish this but I have to go and eat my tea now).
PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:37 pm


There is no way Sephiroth and Aerith are related. Ghast and Hojo may have worked together, but the only way these two could even be related would be thru Jenova cells, which, as we know, is the contradictary element to the Lifestream. Aerith CANNOT be related to Sephiroth because she never had Jenova cells implanted. Granted, Sephiroth went on and on about being the last Ancient in the game, but, as we all know, he was truly born of Jenova cells, not the element that made the Cetra (or Setora) what they were.

Torrin_Maccumhail


Casseh Valentine

PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:07 pm


'Know what 'Note to Self'...I like that theory. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:39 am


I would give advent children a 8/10 and it would have had 10 if it wasent for two things: One: That freaky Tifa and Cloud knocked out bit that was scary and Two: The rest of the gang needed to fight more. Much more 3nodding . Otherwise it was a really good movie wich is coming out in english in 11 days rofl .

IJWTDTPLMCTUN


DragonDisciple

PostPosted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 3:16 pm


i liked advent children just fine it was action packed and fun too watch. the graphics and quality was amazing and the characters were as cool as in the game. i hope you all watch it and enoy it as much as i did. cool
PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:36 pm


Yeah i like Advent Children too! the animation was great! the characters looked almost real. For the people who havent seen it, you are gonna love it!

Shadow_Chocobo


Tenoko1

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 1:39 pm


OMG...

I love this movie...
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 8:03 pm


Dang...I finally saw the movie in English. I give it a 9.7 out of 10. These things kinda bothered me...:

1. How in the HECK is Tseng alive?? 0__o;;

2. What is up with 'dilly dally shilly shally'???

3. The blackouts and junk were kinda...out of place at times.

But hey, beggars can't be choosers. whee

Casseh Valentine


Zarloft

PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:32 pm


Tseng was still alive because vincent found him and Elena and brought them to the forbidden city and basicaly healed them the best he could.

Dilly dally shilly shally i think was something that Aerith/Aeris said one time in the origonal game.

the flash backs were basically for people who neer really played the game as much as me and probly everyone else on in this guild sweatdrop for instance the flashback of Zack was ment to probly explain why he shows up later in the movie, because the flash back in the game of Zack is not exactly the most known thing in the game.

How many limit breaks did everyone see i saw Cloud's Braver, Cross slash, Blade Beam, Clim Hazaard, and that last move he used on Sephiroth in the ending part of the movie i'm pretty sure was an Omnislash imitation or something like that (makes the most sense), i also saw Yuffies clear tranquil (during the fight with Bahamut), and i think i saw Cid's first limit break jump in their too.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 9:39 pm


sorry about posting twice but how many people on here know about FF7: Dirge of Cerberus, Core Crisis, and Before Crisis. I just wanna know if anyone knows if Dirge of Cerberus will be sold in america, and when Core Crisis and Before Crisis are gonna come out?

Zarloft


Crux Ender

PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:40 pm


I love advent children, but I was dissapointed that the turks fought more than the Clouds allies, they should've had more fight scenes. But Cloud is my fav and his new sword was the best weapon I've seen! But "Note to Self" has an excellent theory, and Aerith and Sephiroth do have a connection.
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:21 pm


I liked getting to see the Turks fight in the movie. After having seen the English version, I am pleased with the movie. Fabulous music on top of great action scenes.

I really liked Reno in the video game, but I have obsessed over him after having watched the film.

Lunar Kissed


Hugin the Raven

PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2006 8:09 am


MOVIE RULES.

As for the theory... I don't know where he gets the basis for all that. I mean, I respect the opinion, but I don't see how it makes sense. If Aerith had truly been infected with Jenova cells, wouldn't she know it? She has a direct connection to the planet itself- if that would not have been a warning, I don't think anything would.

Not to mention that she would have died/become possesed/become just another puppet long before the end of the game.

But seeing as we don't find out any of the deeper backstory during the game (which happens to include Aerith's capture and experimentations), both the theory and the above statements are based on speculation, and I have no concrete way of disproving this one. Do not think you have won yet, though.

razz
PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 4:30 pm


Zarloft
sorry about posting twice but how many people on here know about FF7: Dirge of Cerberus, Core Crisis, and Before Crisis. I just wanna know if anyone knows if Dirge of Cerberus will be sold in america, and when Core Crisis and Before Crisis are gonna come out?


dirge of cerebrus comes out in america in augest i think, along with before crisis . not too sure about crisis core..... i'll look it up and check for you!! xd

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666timetodie

PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 3:32 pm


lol cloud leon strife do another movie like that and by the way wat r we descusing
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