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 Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:36 pm
I'm not sure where he would fit into "dark" from that. I mean, the way he's presented from godchecker, the worst I could draw from it was that he's a bit of a wild-card - not a point on any moral compass, but rather, whirring around it in a haze for the fun of it.
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:51 pm
lioness of midnight Okay so for a minute you all had me thinking that maybe I was misinformed on Loki being a not so nice deity. So I decided to check into it and realized that I was originally right. LOKI: God of Hokey Pokey and one of the world's major Trickster Gods. In his early days LOKI was a rascal; crafty, sneaky, silly and malicious — a Loki The Lad. The son of two Giants, he was so outrageously mischievous that he even sneaked his way into becoming a God. He was the first Anti-Hero, quick-witting his way out of the tight corners and confrontations caused by his misdeeds. But as time wore on he became increasingly nasty. What's wrong with being the son of two Jotnar? Hell, most of the Gods are the child of at least one Jotnar. Though this is doubtful, since Loki is Odin's brother, and Borr isn't considered to be a Jotun generally, though Bestla is. I guess you could claim half parentage. Quote: His first escapade was a very rampant romp. When the Gods were struggling to build ASGARD, they found they'd run out of funds. Which is not surprising as money and banks hadn't been invented yet. All the basic construction had been completed but they needed a large protective wall to keep the riff-raff out. LOKI came up with the plan of contracting a Giant to do the job. As payment, the Giant asked for the Sun and Moon and also the Goddess FREYA if the work was completed to schedule. The Gods were not too sure. "Don't worry," advised LOKI. "He'll never manage it on his own, even if he works night and day — and the deal will be off. We'll let him keep the wheelbarrow or something." Can I get an actual citation on them running out of money? Because in the Gylfaginning, it says that an unnamed giant came by and boasted he could build the best wall around, and would do it in exchange for Freyja, the Sun and Moon, and the Gods finally agreed, but he had build it within three seasons and with the help of no man. The only reason why Loki get's dragged into this is because he's the one who said that he should be allowed to use the horse at least, so by virtue of that, he had to be the one to fix it. Quote: LOKI was now well in with top God ODIN and his son THOR, with whom he shared numerous adventures. THOR, the perfect fall guy, was persuaded to appear in drag as the prospective bride of a giant and other embarrassments. THOR could always be relied on to supply the muscle when corners became too tight for trickery. You know, it's really ******** offensive that this site portrays Thorr as a dumb s**t. The man was willing to suffer ergi to ensure the safety of a kinswoman. I don't see what's stupid about that. I see why it's embarrassing, but honestly saying that he didn't know that he would be mocked for this is ******** stupid. Is he the smartest God around? No, but he's not the huge ******** idiot this points him out as. I mean, Thorr tricked a damned dwarf into turning into stone, and he did it on wits, not strength. He is not the perfect fall guy. He is a God. Quote: LOKI had many run-ins with the dwarves, which he cheated at any opportunity until they stitched him up. Literally. They stitched his mouth shut, which kept him quiet for quite some time. You say that like he didn't cheat them afterwards. It was just the three (I believe) that sewed his mouth shut. Maybe just one, can't recall at the moment. Quote: LOKI never missed an opportunity to take advantage of any Goddess, despite already having had three wives. The first not many folk know about, and it is only by assiduous research we have discovered GLUT, who bore two daughters EINMYRIA and EISA. In the Saga of Thorstein Viking's son, Eisa and Eimyrja are said to be the daughters of Halogi son of Fyjornot, with Glodh being his wife. Are you saying Halogi is Loki? Quote: This current selection is from www.godchecker.com however there are quite a few other places I can reference to go back to the same point. Here's a good one that counters it, and moreover, it cites primary evidence: Top Ten Misconceptions About Loki
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:26 pm
Celeblin Galadeneryn lioness of midnight Okay so for a minute you all had me thinking that maybe I was misinformed on Loki being a not so nice deity. So I decided to check into it and realized that I was originally right. ... This current selection is from www.godchecker.com however there are quite a few other places I can reference to go back to the same point. Here's a good one that counters it, and moreover, it cites primary evidence: Top Ten Misconceptions About LokiBingo. Lioness, when you use the same tertiary sources to support your position that originally formed your position, and they don't beat primary sources or secondary sources that cite primary sources, then you haven't established that your position is correct.
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:55 pm
Collowrath I'm not sure where he would fit into "dark" from that. I mean, the way he's presented from godchecker, the worst I could draw from it was that he's a bit of a wild-card - not a point on any moral compass, but rather, whirring around it in a haze for the fun of it. He kind of comes around to "good" in a round about way, getting the wall built for free, coming up with ******** loads of cool stuff for the Gods to have, just about every instance of him causing ******** comes up with him causing the Gods to profit in the end.
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:06 pm
TeaDidikai Celeblin Galadeneryn lioness of midnight Okay so for a minute you all had me thinking that maybe I was misinformed on Loki being a not so nice deity. So I decided to check into it and realized that I was originally right. ... This current selection is from www.godchecker.com however there are quite a few other places I can reference to go back to the same point. Here's a good one that counters it, and moreover, it cites primary evidence: Top Ten Misconceptions About LokiBingo. Lioness, when you use the same tertiary sources to support your position that originally formed your position, and they don't beat primary sources or secondary sources that cite primary sources, then you haven't established that your position is correct. Not to mention that site is not much more than a joke than a valid "source."
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:22 pm
Celeblin Galadeneryn Collowrath I'm not sure where he would fit into "dark" from that. I mean, the way he's presented from godchecker, the worst I could draw from it was that he's a bit of a wild-card - not a point on any moral compass, but rather, whirring around it in a haze for the fun of it. He kind of comes around to "good" in a round about way, getting the wall built for free, coming up with ******** loads of cool stuff for the Gods to have, just about every instance of him causing ******** comes up with him causing the Gods to profit in the end. Well, in the end, he's still an áss. smile
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:37 pm
Bastemhet TeaDidikai Celeblin Galadeneryn lioness of midnight Okay so for a minute you all had me thinking that maybe I was misinformed on Loki being a not so nice deity. So I decided to check into it and realized that I was originally right. ... This current selection is from www.godchecker.com however there are quite a few other places I can reference to go back to the same point. Here's a good one that counters it, and moreover, it cites primary evidence: Top Ten Misconceptions About LokiBingo. Lioness, when you use the same tertiary sources to support your position that originally formed your position, and they don't beat primary sources or secondary sources that cite primary sources, then you haven't established that your position is correct. Not to mention that site is not much more than a joke than a valid "source." But it sure is entertaining at points. xD
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:45 pm
True Colours of Destiny Bastemhet TeaDidikai Celeblin Galadeneryn lioness of midnight Okay so for a minute you all had me thinking that maybe I was misinformed on Loki being a not so nice deity. So I decided to check into it and realized that I was originally right. ... This current selection is from www.godchecker.com however there are quite a few other places I can reference to go back to the same point. Here's a good one that counters it, and moreover, it cites primary evidence: Top Ten Misconceptions About LokiBingo. Lioness, when you use the same tertiary sources to support your position that originally formed your position, and they don't beat primary sources or secondary sources that cite primary sources, then you haven't established that your position is correct. Not to mention that site is not much more than a joke than a valid "source." But it sure is entertaining at points. xD The article on Bast pissed me off. "Quality research" my a**.
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:36 pm
Bastemhet The article on Bast pissed me off. "Quality research" my a**. This one is my favourite. I read it in a few books so the story involved is my favourite. Set is never happy when I read it. gonk
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:07 pm
Woot! My gods didn't even make it onto the website.
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:19 pm
True Colours of Destiny Bastemhet The article on Bast pissed me off. "Quality research" my a**. This one is my favourite. I read it in a few books so the story involved is my favourite. Set is never happy when I read it. gonk Meh...I can do you one better. twisted Edit: Hsitorical version here.
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:23 pm
TeaDidikai Woot! My gods didn't even make it onto the website. The better to not be perverted by superficial pop culture garbage with.
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:48 pm
lioness of midnight Recursive Paradox Do you not know what Light is either? Or how that balancing spectrum works? I do, and you seem smart enough that I don't have to explain it to you. Funny, that sounds awfully like a cop out and a complete lack of comprehension of why I asked the damn question. Here, maybe a clue by four will help you: TeaDidikai Poe is thinking there is a breakdown in your cosmology. If you explain it to her, she might be able to use terms you are familiar with to explain herself to you.
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Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 9:51 pm
lioness of midnight *fluffy bs that was already went over before* I don't have a lot of hope for someone who didn't learn the first time. Oh well, now you get to deal with Celeblin. Have fun. Quote: This current selection is from www.godchecker.com however there are quite a few other places I can reference to go back to the same point. The fail. It is legendary.
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Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 7:21 am
Bastemhet Meh...I can do you one better. twisted Bahahah! biggrin Quote: Edit: Hsitorical version here.No! This version doesn't exist. Only the funny one will survive! Yoo hoo, sperm! xd
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