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 Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:20 pm
@Kamiha: Cog is just trying to say that parts of the real world still needs to be applied to Gaia fighting. There is really no difference between say Middle Earth and Earth. The only difference is there are Orcs, elves, different animals, and magic. I mean the Orcs may be strong but get hit by a living tree and they still go flying.
It's not wrong to have characters that can jump a building in a single bound or run at the speed of sound but it's a real big pain when something that should happen doesn't. For example an opponent I battled once told me that because he had the power to kick of a bus that by simply bending his knee and lifting his foot up into the air that he would pull my upper body down far enough using the chains on my arm so that I would shot the ground right infront of my. Sadly as much as my opponent wanted to believe kicking and lifting a foot into the air isn't the same action.
While this is a fantasy based world stuff that happens in the real world in terms of phsyics is still going to happen in a fantasy world.
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:29 pm
Which is fine, basic principles should be recognized. But one should assume that the specifics have to be so close to the real world and deem it impossible for X character to perform Y feat. But for example. Hancock was capable to stopping a train. Principles of friction and resistance and s**t were still at play even if the feat would be impossible in our real world. The problem is people not just looking at physics as guidelines but as some specific examples of what can and can't be, which should not be the case in fantasy land.
Superman still needs X amount of energy to leap buildings as with anybody else, but he can still leap buildings.
Some things that just don't work are character traits like
"Gravity has less effect because racial trait" which simply does not make sense in terms of any kinds of physics. You're not exerting any force to counteract gravity, it simply doesn't pull you down at the same rate as something with equal mass or shape or whatevs. But if you're going to just ignore stuff like that, why even pretend to be a hard a** about it?
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:40 pm
Anyone X character can do Y feat if the proper channels are done to get from A to B. Granted Hancock did stop a train he didn't just stand there and let it hit him. He branced himself for the hit and put his weight into by preforming a small thrust. I mean in terms of Gaia use a character like Hancock won't be allowed most places given that he is all power and no weakness but that isn't really the point. If you want to look at Hancock given the fact that he was still super strong when his ex-wife hit him/threw him he still went flying. Given that fact that he could fly unless he took measures to prevent it he still destroyed the ground half the time when he landed.
As long as you give a detailed reason why a character can do something and it stays within the grounds of Gaia rping most people shouldn't have a problem with it. Just saying that character X can do Y feat just because doesn't cut it. Like you just said Superman can jump a building but he isn't going to jump it from a totaly relaxed position and then all of the sudden boom.
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:43 pm
Goku can jump buildings from a totally relaxed position. cool
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:45 pm
Whatever. I'm just going to stop now because you aren't even paying attention to what I'm saying. Have a nice day.
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:53 pm
Goku would disapprove of you.
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 2:58 pm
On kamiha's side of the argument, it reminds me of the first episode of that Superman live action 30-min show that use to come on in the 90s, when Clark extended his hand to stop a bus whose brakes were out. All he did was stretch his arm and stopped it, leaving his handprint in it.
On the other side of the argument, it's a scaled down version of that, such as the scene when Spiderman in Spiderman 2 worked hard to stop that train from going off the track with muscle and web power.
Neither side looks wrong to me. The DT is about higher leveled fighters, too, so I can see her argument about stopping the dragon. I would have liked to see some feet digging, though and her bracing it to a stop, to acknowledge that there was force coming with it. Like how Yusuke went into Spirit Wave mode and had to work to stop Jin's tornado fist before he could counterattack. His feet was tearing through the concrete for a moment.
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:05 pm
Thing is, Vintrict.. She tried stopping a 270lbs raging half-dragon. Whilst wearing full plate armor on both sides, and the fact that Vince had.. ten feet to gain momentum before crashing into her.
There's no way a 130lbs woman is going to stop something that massive from trampling over her. Don't care if her race is 'Awesome at killing dragons.' or not.
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:07 pm
Vintrict Like how Yusuke went into Spirit Wave mode and had to work to stop Jin's tornado fist before he could counterattack. His feet was tearing through the concrete for a moment.
This post is also to again bring up I want my 50,000 gold. Don't make bets if you can't keep to them fagballs. [CHOKES CAMERON & BUSTAH.]
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:13 pm
From a logical viewpoint, it would have been vital for her to also build up some momentum or some other form of support. So yeah, I can see why standing there would be foolish unless you had something to assist in defying what is considered the norm. She wasn't expecting that her attributes wouldn't apply due to profile acceptance, so that is a factor in why she did what she did. So I don't want to call fault on anyone. It was just a misunderstanding on the two parties.
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:36 pm
If that's really the case... I could have literally.. like.. assumed that Vince was so strong that he still over-powered what racial strength she gained. After-all, he is a dragon!
That's broken logic in the first place.
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:40 pm
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:44 pm
Something like that.
I pretty much sacrifice speed and the ability to dodge attacks for the ability to soak up damage/deal heavy damage. True, this may prove bad as it will second round provided Vince has a shattered jaw/arm that's broken in many places.
Good thing that came out of that was he landed a shot that literally created a crater with Emkay's head.
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:02 pm
There was a dragon in GTB DT?
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Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:04 pm
There's a dragon here, too.
The dragon is still in the DT, actually. Currently in the semi-finals.
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