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I'm at work right now. I'll check later.

I don't have the manga in front of me now, so I can't check on things. I'll be more thorough later. But what I do know is that you are relying on manga in which the translations can be WAY off. Much like how off they were when you thought that Amaterasu was called Kurowhatever, or black fire. People constantly assume that the manga is the gold-standard for information, but what good is that when you can't read Japanese thoroughly? So you are completely at the mercy of someone else who likely can't read it all that well anyhow.

Can you say the same thing about the anime? Not really. While you have to deal with bad translations from time to time, the words that are coming out of the characters mouths are gold. Thus, if you pick up on a word, you can research it independently and fortify your point.

Thus, in this instance, I will definitely rely on the anime over the manga. Once I do some research, I will be back to pwn you on the specifics.

No, the point of the post is...

"Get off of your manganite high horse." Because believe it or not, manga isn't all that dependable, and on entertainment standards, anime pwnz manga. Especially in Naruto. whee

What a moronic response. Sasuga Plucky-chan no Aho. biggrin

Yes, and the manga chapters and fight scenes are all amazingly detailed. rolleyes

And for someone who watches anime, it's funny how all of a sudden it's not good enough for you. whee

*sighs* Another thing for me to pwn you on when I have the time. If you can't see the great advantages that anime has over manga, then I almost feel bad for you. I'll let you know later on.

I think you two are scaring away potential PPK members! xd

Congratulations. You've taken animation courses. Of course, you're still just a regular fan, and not an animator, so your so-called educated opinion on the matter means nothing more than mine. More so, in the case of Naruto, considering you've not given the series a sincere chance, you have no opinion on the matter, whatso ever.

Because you've seen the vast majority of anime? lol More so, comparing that to still-life, colorless, and often times blurred scenes in a manga, I think the choice is obvious.
Really? Because you don't seem too aware. Anyhow, let me break down the conversation. Maybe you'll wake up from your manganite craze. Since we were using Naruto as a model to begin with, we will work with Naruto in relation to anime vs. manga.

Here are all of the things that manga can provide, along with it's potential flaws:
- Original art. This is good because we can see how the characters are by the direct vision of the creator. It's bad because with the exception of a cover page, it's all black and white. You cannot see character physical interaction beyond still-life frames where often times, you have to guess the tone. Action scenes are always a mess in anime, let alone Naruto, where you really can't see anything. It's even difficult to grasp the landscape and background in the manga.

- Original story. This is good simply because we are hearing the story "straight from the horse's" mouth. The drawback, in relation to the anime, is that their is no presentation time to set the mood for the story. Also, because the anime comes later, more can be added to the specifics. Example: Sasuke vs. Orochimaru in Shi no mori. In the manga, we see what, 3 pictures of blurry offense, then it gets to Orochimaru planting the cursed seal. In the anime, it's a great scene full of introductory presentation (and excellent music), and the offensive launched by Sasuke is one of the best in the series. Also, Ryuuka no Jutsu is added, which was no seen in the manga at that time.

Another good add-on was that in the very first episode, when Naruto and company had to practice Henge no Jutsu. Instead of a few no-name characters that were on Naruto's case, the anime switched it to being Shikamaru and Ino. There was also a scene right after that with Hinata in it, and as a Hinata fan, that's always a plus. Because anime comes later than manga, it has time to make add-ons, and present the proper presentation, something that is extremely hard to do in manga in general.

And that's it for manga. Now, for the positives and negatives of the anime. I will not reiterate the positives I already stated while going over the manga.

Voice acting: Naruto has some of the best voice acting I've heard in an anime, and most of the anime that I have seen has had stellar voice acting. Giving voices to characters not only brings them to life (Hinata is twice as cute with a voice actress), but allows the viewer to sincerely feel the emotions of the characters. When Chouji beat Jiroubou, the sound of a boy struggling to live, his choked up voice when seeing the markers his team left for him, those things gave the scene so much more.

The music: Yet another thing that manga cannot provide. Because you only watched a handful of episodes (and selective episodes that only involved action, mind you), you cannot formulate an opinion on the music, like you tried to do before. Sometimes the music alone can create a tone for a scene, a tone that you could not see in the manga. In the beginning of the Naruto/Kiba fight, Kiba strikes down Naruto. Both in the anime and manga, we see some flashback scenes, and Naruto gets up and says "Don't underestimate me." But the difference in the scenes between the anime and manga is the music. It went from sort of a softer tone with Naruto's flashback as a child, to the Naruto Main Theme (one of the better themes made) when he rose to his feet and said his line. It meant way more in the anime than the manga.

Tone setting: As you read manga, you set your own tempo for the story. You read, you look, you move on when ready. Anime sets the tone for you. When a scene is truly significant, it won't rush into action. Combined with the music, background, and character expressions, it lets the viewer know how significant the scene is. The scene before the Naruto/Neji fight started was a perfect example. The right music was played, the proper flashback was done, and they took their time. An impatient manga reader would never be able to see that without the anime.

OGM Color!: Yes, instead of simplistic black and white, anime is in color. If you're going to sit there and tell me that a manga Rasengan looks better than the anime Rasengan, then there is no point in even having this discussion. Of course, Plucky-chan, you're smart enough not to do something like that. Same can be said for any of the attacks. Animated Jyuuken, Kaiten, Chidori, Tsukuyomi (I bet you don't even know what the Tsukuyomi world looks like) are all better than the manga form. Because you want to, for some strange reason, try and be concerned with how lazy japanimation is, you blind yourself from what's there. Frankly, I'm disappointed in your for taking such a narrow-minded stance. To sum up this aspect, anything visual in the anime is better than the manga. Sketchy black and white lines cannot compare, regardless of the effort.

And there are other smaller, yet significant aspects that the anime has over the manga. There are no cool intro visuals, or intro songs in manga. It's harder to enjoy a comical scene in manga. It's impossible to just enjoy a scene that doesn't have anything really going on in the manga, while the anime does it perfectly. In I believe episode 54, the first episode featuring Naruto and Jiraiya, Jiraiya simply explains to Naruto that he has two kinds of chakra. For a manga reader, all you can grasp is that explanation scene. For an anime viewer, that scene is done with a beautiful artstyle, as they sit amongst trees and a soft sunset. And the perfect music is playing. Such presentation wasn't even necessary for that scene, but it was done anyhow, and I appreciated it.

Plucky-chan, manga is all good and well. If I didn't like manga, I wouldn't be reading Naruto and One Piece. But if you seriously favor manga over anime, and for the simplistic reasons that you have given me since we first talked about it, then you're just lacking a lot of vision. Yes, anime screws up from time to time. RK was cut short. Bleach was apparently raped, according to you and NEO, but you know what? You take the good with the bad. And I'll embrace the well done anime, rather than b***h about ones that weren't done so well. Anime still pwnz manga. I'd like to see you try and prove me wrong. But what I'd really like you to see is beyond what's directly in front of you. Your lack of insight causes you to be too short-sighted towards some things. Open your eyes.