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I'd like to throw my two cents in now. Goku can not survive a direct planet busting assault. Cell's self destruct bomb, when detonated was of planet busting porportions. This attack resulted in the death of not only Goku, but King Kai, Bubbles and Greggory.

Refere back to my Superman punching faster than a laser post. In the Cell Saga Cell had time to look at Goku and and even think for a bit before the "HA!" Was even said. Thats why I say Superman will have time to deflect it especially at close range. Also Superman has the option of making it a double K.O. By gripping Goku's hands together the instant the energy is unleashed causing both of them to be knocked out. I know it sounds like bullshit. But hes done it with a source of energy that should have vaporized him on contact before. (Darkseids Omega Beam)

You also said lasers are light speed, which they aren't.

And no, Cell never had time to look back. In fact, Goku was IN FRONT of him, and still Cell had no time to do anything. Imagine if Goku actually went behind.

Not even close the speed of lightning, seeing as the lasers are always visible. I'd give them the speed of sound, tops. That's being incredibly generous.

And don't you think Cell would have done something if he could?

As a reminder, Cell WON the fight, due to him being an overall superior fighter, meaning that he was BETTER than Goku, yet still had no time to do anything.

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And I'll post this again, seeing as you didn't respond to it last time . . .



As I said before, this is where I believe it stands.

Actually I dont care Rikeen because I remember that I countered you counter. mrgreen Like I said earlier they're only visible because of that person's point of view. Not by my logic but by universal logic a laser would be the speed of light because they are light...

Being a better fighter doesnt always meen anything. Cell had the fighting capability off of the Z fighters yes? But did he also have the experience they had? As I recall he was in all actuality only a few years old. Better fighter than Goku yes. Goku's attacks yes. But he never used those moves as many times as Goku to know them inside and out. The only reason he didnt do anything is because Goku used a move he had never seen before and didn't know himself. This shocked him and caused him to freeze up.

So he had the time to spurt out nonsense but not counter? What are lasers then Vegeta because I'm not getting what you're saying... You seem to be getting stressed.. Are my responses troubleing you that much...? If they are my apologize.

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Lol, either way taht gives my precious star wars characters LIGHTSPEED!
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Andrew. think about it.
Do you want this point open, to give Supes a small speed boost?
In return for eternal star wars based threads from me?
Because if this power up is applied, then all hell will break lose, and im fine with that.
You are actually arguing on a point I agree with.
If only everyone would accept it.

Just as a sort of side note, deflecting a Kamehameha twards the ground as you sudgested is a very supid idea, as it would blow up at least most of the planet, if not all. Of course, Goku could redirect it before contact, but Superman doesn't know that. Deflecting it into space is A ok, though.

And Q, basicly Rikeen said what I was going to say. Cell's explosion was described as being cappable of destroying the earth, not "pain stakenly calibrated to be have exactly enough energy to destroy the earth, and if it had even slightly less power it wouldn't have been able to do so". In the Sayajin saga Vageta's Garlic Gun is described as a planet busting attack. Later SSJ Vageta blast Cells arm off with a "planet busting" final flash. Unless I've horribly overestimated the power diffrence between DBZ characters, Sayajin saga Vageta isn't going to blasting off Cell's arm anytime soon. There is a lot of diffrence between diffrent planet busting attacks.

Calm down Rikeen, I like Star Wars as much as the next geek(well, not as much as you, but that's not saying much), and Jedi definitly aren't Light Speed. Nor are lazzers in most fictionous worlds. How many times, in how many serials, have I seen a character grosely under the speed of light dodged or deflected a lazzer blast? I'll use my favorit series and fanboyish obsession, Transforemrs, as an example. The energy blasts the transformers use have been specificly classified as lazzers. All kinds of not that fat Transformers have dodged. blocked, and even reflected lazzers freqently, enough that it's definitly not shere luck. To use my other fanboyish obsession, Mega man, Zero can easily deflect lazzers jedi stile with his sword, and he's nowhere near even sound.