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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:18 pm
punkfairy Are defilers unfluffy in World Eater armies? not really. defilers dont really fit into any army fluff wise, unless maybe you made some kind of deamon based army with lots of deamons and vehicles with demonic possession. and besides, that or a dread are good choices because of world eaters lack of fire power.
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:48 pm
punkfairy Are defilers unfluffy in World Eater armies? Nope. Ever hear of something called the Kannon of Khorne? Or the Cauldron of Blood? Both are Epic Daemon Engines that were briefly available in 40K scale as Armorcast pieces, and IMO both are really good bases for scratchbuilt defiler conversions. Just a note, by "bases," I meant as a concept idea. The Kannon was a really humongous cannon (I mean, so big it made the Demolisher cannon look like a popgun), and the Cauldron of Blood was... well... odd. I've posted a piccie, because I can't quite explain it.  In any case, you aren't supposed to use the Armorcast ones anymore, because they got into a legal fight with GW over artistic license and similar issues. I see nothing wrong with actually using one as a Defiler in friendly games, however.
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:01 pm
General VonCarstein my brothers bloodletters kick my a** all the time, how do you fight them with blood angels? even WE cant compete with that! 1 you put in a unit of grey knights 2 you make him divide his stuff, and outnumber the lot 3 you poke a dreadnought in his eye (or 3) 4 you make a real fast army and run around all the time 5 you take one HUGE shooty squad, and put an inquisitor with a mystic in it 6 you slap the crap out of him by outnumbering him badly 7 you kill his entire army on turn 1 so he cant summon daemons
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:07 pm
Seraphine-Exalted 1 you put in a unit of grey knights 2 you make him divide his stuff, and outnumber the lot 4 you make a real fast army and run around all the time I took the liberty of deleting the highly unlikely choices. You could also toss your Death Company at them. Its not like they're worth any VPs, while the Bloodletters are a very expensive unit...
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:12 pm
Seraphine-Exalted General VonCarstein my brothers bloodletters kick my a** all the time, how do you fight them with blood angels? even WE cant compete with that! 1 you put in a unit of grey knights 2 you make him divide his stuff, and outnumber the lot 3 you poke a dreadnought in his eye (or 3) 4 you make a real fast army and run around all the time 5 you take one HUGE shooty squad, and put an inquisitor with a mystic in it 6 you slap the crap out of him by outnumbering him badly 7 you kill his entire army on turn 1 so he cant summon daemons if you take great knights dont they just keep coming back? and blood angels dont get very shooty.
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Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:39 pm
Ah yes, the Cannon of Khorne and the Cauldron of Blood. Two of the most bad a** daemon engines ever made! I love the cannon myself. I made one when I saw th price of the armourcast on ebay. ( eek ) Now someone call that mother unfluffy. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:19 am
are defilers really worth it? sad
becuase i have managed quite well with just a bread and butter dread....
and havocs (3 plasma guns and a melta)
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:27 pm
hi. i'm relatively new to chaos (6 months or so) n i lose quite often. Any tips or strategies? come on im dieing n i have nothing to do about it until i get some serious help.
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:43 pm
First of all, what troops do you have.
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 3:55 pm
chaos_havoc1932 hi. i'm relatively new to chaos (6 months or so) n i lose quite often. Any tips or strategies? come on im dieing n i have nothing to do about it until i get some serious help. army list, and the general sorts of armies you play against and what you normally do. It'd be so much easier if you could do us a battle report with graphs to represent what happened.
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:16 pm
the majority of the people that i play are imperial guard, space marines n tyrranids (the tyrranids r really hard to kill especially the hive tyrant)
i have 1 sorcerer, 16 khorne berserkers, 11 chaos space marines, 1 obliterator, 1 rhino, 3 chaos bikers, 1 raptor (got it for my birthday) and 1 termie champ (got it for my birthday)
i usually lose. i won like 2 times out of the numerous battles that we played and the best thing i learned was KEEP AWAY FROM THE HIVE TYRANT N GENE STEALERS.
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 4:56 pm
Does anyone even have the old Armourcast stats for the Cannon and the Cauldron?
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Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:14 pm
I feel so bad... My 4 Khorne Berzerkers lost in close combat to 5 Tau Shas'la, or something like that... I had the worst luck ever, and... egh...
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:16 am
For all Word Bearers players! How in the name of the gods did you make your accursed crozius? (pics would be awesome!)
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 12:50 pm
thinking of making slaanesh army, are there any rules for all daemon armies (so i can use my fantasy slaanesh). ill just add some marines with getto blasters and a dreadnought. xp
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