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I know that page, Tiki, that's why I wasn't sure what he was talking about with Ike and Sothe, since their teams weren't released yet.

But speaking of spotpass, would you guys like to discuss the choices made for the teams? Because I looked over all of them the other day when FE7's came out and was perplexed by who was chosen for some of the teams. Or should we get another topic for that.

i hope they make it so when u have sothes team u have the whole dawn brigade or with ikes team at least having mia

I get the iconic characters thing, but... for instance, I'm looking at Shadow Dragon's team. They have Merric, Nyna and Linde, who are Mage, Sage, and Mage respectively. That''s THREE anima magic people... not exactly well diversified. And unless I'm mistaken, Nyna isn't even recruitable. Garnef isn't either, but of course he's on the team, because all the main villains are. I'm just saying why couldn't two of those three mages have been taken out and replaced with like... Lena and Jeigan? Lena would start as a cleric obviously and there's not a single cavalry unit on this team, so Jeigan would be a nice addition. I think those two characters are iconic enough.

And on FE7's team, do we really need both Matthew and Jaffar? Both Lyn and Karel? Lyn has to stay obviously. Why was Karel added even though the team already has a swordmaster, is he just insanely popular? I don't really see him as iconic enough to keep him on despite the class redundancy, like how both Sigurd and Cuan are paladins in the FE4 1st gen team. And I get that having both Jaffar and Nino on the team is a nice "awww" thing, so maybe take Matthew out, too. Honestly, I'd say Ninian would be the perfect addition, but I guess adding another dancer to your team would be broken. I think those spots would be better served by a character in the Merc branch, Wyvern branch or bow using classes. And I think those characters are just as iconic as Matthew and Karel are.

I think Karel made the cut because of the whole Saint of Swords/Sword Demon/best Swordmaster lore he brings. If anyone were to be taken out from the FE7 team, I'd want it to be Matthew as well, probably, but then I think of Leila, and his interaction with Jaffar, and give him the okay. As much as I'd have loved to see Lucius or Raven here, even though they're very popular characters, they aren't anywhere near the top ten spots to get on the team it feels like, unfortunately.

Some of the teams can get pretty redundant in terms of diversity of unit types, and it's usually magic users. I mean, s**t, Gaiden has 3 Sages and another Mage and FE6 gave of Ray, Sofiya, Lugh, Lilina, AND Sofiya. But I guess they just went for relevance/iconography for the game over diversity and I AM glad about it on some level, I suppose. I could stand to lose Lilina and Sofiya, but they technically are more important then Rei and Lugh, so I'm happy they included Rei and Lugh still despite the redundancy.

Like Tiki said, though, one team alone may not be all that diverse, but between all of them, the only class it seems is not present at all is the Fighter line (and Dancer, for obvious reasons). And when you look at it that way, they generally made really good decisions about it.

Minerva and Altenna are much more relevant in their games than any other wyvern unit is in any other game in the series, for example, Ogma is THE seminal Ogma archetype (although I could totally see Dieck making it over Thany), and while Matthew/Jaffar seems redundant, they're the only Thief tree units we've gotten so far (Well, and Leaf as a Trickster, I suppose), and really, no other game in the series makes thieves that important except an inevitable Sothe for the RD team and perhaps Volke.

And seeing so many Sorcerer villains makes me really appreciate Zephiel and Ledreik more just for NOT being dark magic villains in the series.

Nyna is basically only available for the LAST chapter of New Mystery. I don't think it's getting it's own spotpass team, though, and I guess Nyna IS pretty important in Shadow Dragon. While I did count roughly enough new characters in it to make a team, a lot of them would be bad choices. Someone else could have filled her shoes, but she isn't a bad choice for the game, either.

No light magic does kind of nerf putting Lucius in at all, you're right.

I also recall FE8 being posted at one point, so it's weird that it's not up on Serenes. I definitely remember it being pretty royalty heavy, though and Lyon being yet another Sorcerer villain.

I'm honestly surprised Guinevere wasn't added in for FE6, but it would make for ANOTHER magic user from that team.

Edit:
Found the FE8 team:
-Eirika, Ephraim, Innes, Seth, Moulder, Lute, Amelia, Marisa, L'Arachel, Lyon.

And now I remember being perplexed as to whom Moulder and Marisa slept with to make the cut.

FE8: ...Why moulder. Instead of Joshua? I mean, the team already has L'Arachel as a healer, so they don't need him. He's not special and not really liked that much. My guesses for the team were: Ephraim, Eirika, TANA, Innes, JOSHUA, L'Arachel, Seth, Lyon and the possibilities of Duessel, Cormag, Saleh and Mhyrr for the other two spots. This FE8 team baffles me...

FE9: Mia, Zihark and Lucia? Really? I think these teams have enough swordmaster people, can we please try and diversify a bit. I'd much rather have Shinon and Gatrie taking two of those swordmasters' spots.

FE10: ...Three generals... assuming Nephenee stays as one. (Alternatively, she could use Donny's class? But I doubt it.) Ugh. Three sages. Ugh. It's hard to fight the characters they chose for this, though, honestly. (Though personally I say ditch Sigrun and put in Haar, FE10's god, but...) Although, I think Nolan should get a little more credit, since he's the real leader of the Dawn Brigade, but I like that Edward and Leonardo are together. And hey, an archer!

RAIN IN VAIN!!