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 Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:41 pm
Designated Hero None of my characters (worth mentioning) use elements, and they seem to hold up alright against those who do. S'just a matter of perspective. Every character of any type is usually going to have some type of skill advanced more then average. In the case of physical fighters just a matter of using that to your advantage. But I do agree it is all about perspective.
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:08 pm
Yeah maybe, but when you're standing at opposite sides of an arena, and someone is shooting fireball after fireball at you, I feel cheap dodging everyone.
Especially with a char that HAS to be in close proximities to fight. So you're basically forced to rush at them whilst they fire projectiles at you. |:
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:17 pm
No one said you HAD to dodge every single one, but a fireball doesn't really have a whole lot of (if any) mass.
Who's to say you can't just burst through a few of them? Just like waving your hand through a candleflame.
Except..it's your whole body.
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:19 pm
Designated Hero No one said you HAD to dodge every single one, but a fireball doesn't really have a whole lot of (if any) mass. Who's to say you can't just burst through a few of them? Just like waving your hand through a candleflame. Except..it's your whole body. What he said. This is really the idea. Or your body being physically stronger to withstand a blunt blow like from an ice wall or something to that effect. Your body should be stronger then a full caster.
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:21 pm
That's true. Not so sure about the other elements though. I guess it depends on the situation. surprised
@Saphen: If you're fighting an Ice elemental and they know you can't do s**t to them untill you're close, they won't bludgeon you with ice, they'll impale you. Which Is why I think I should get me some epic armour.
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:25 pm
It depends, though. Some characters aren't full-casters and use such abilities to supplement their physical prowess; my own included, I suppose.
As to the earlier discussion on one element versus many - that also depends. I'd say, for however well I did or no, I was at a severe disadvantage this fight against an opponent who could utilize a series of elements well, whilst I could only capitalize on one. Yet likewise, I've done considerably well against people of past whom've tried to freeze then shock my entire character's body; it of course, varies.
In deals like this, it isn't quite like Paper-Rock-Scissors where caster beats fighter, water beats fire, etc. The trick is to try and adapt how you play your character and what they're capable of to defeat your opponent; that simple. If you're ranged and your opponent's up-close specialized, try to keep them at a distance; like-wise, if you're gearing to break in close, attempt to do that.
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:26 pm
LT Katsu That's true. Not so sure about the other elements though. I guess it depends on the situation. surprised @Saphen: If you're fighting an Ice elemental and they know you can't do s**t to them untill you're close, they won't bludgeon you with ice, they'll impale you. Which Is why I think I should get me some epic armour. Read Reyin's fight with me. That is a good example of what you can do vs impales.
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:32 pm
Typhoon Omi It depends, though. Some characters aren't full-casters and use such abilities to supplement their physical prowess; my own included, I suppose.
As to the earlier discussion on one element versus many - that also depends. I'd say, for however well I did or no, I was at a severe disadvantage this fight against an opponent who could utilize a series of elements well, whilst I could only capitalize on one. Yet likewise, I've done considerably well against people of past whom've tried to freeze then shock my entire character's body; it of course, varies.
In deals like this, it isn't quite like Paper-Rock-Scissors where caster beats fighter, water beats fire, etc. The trick is to try and adapt how you play your character and what they're capable of to defeat your opponent; that simple. If you're ranged and your opponent's up-close specialized, try to keep them at a distance; like-wise, if you're gearing to break in close, attempt to do that. I have always considered multi element concepts but I am still building the character I am using in this current tournament. The tournament itself is really a test run for this guy. Otherwise I have always considered if a character is focused on one element then their ability to use it on a larger scale should be stronger then a person who uses many. Kind of a Jack of all trades/master of none concept.
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:36 pm
Hm. I've been thinking how to expand my character myself; the issue is, GTB's as of late been the only damned place I can test things out on. I can spend hours looking for somewhere decent besides this place on Gaia, and 99% of what I find looks like this:
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/barton-town/naruto-role-play-pick-you-characters-from-naruto/t.40890137/
Bad luck on my part, perhaps.
And multi-element's just not my style, for a similar ideology of Jack of All Trades / Master of None; I think it's varied enough given most people instantly go "FIRE! USE WATER!" if possible, and bone themselves as a result. I really enjoy how my character operates, but I need to retool him a bit I think. Random idea I thought of as an example: transferring the eyesight of one eye into one of his trademark serpents for reconnaissance or what have you.
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:40 pm
Hey! I use multi elements very well thank you. And yes, I agree, if your an up-close fighter, take some hits from the elementalist jack a** (yes, this includes me) but do so in a manner where it won't take from your speed. Like its aimed towards your stomache and you know you can't dogde that or if you do it takes speed from you. So, countering, your hand is close to your stomache, move your character slightly to the undominate side and keep goiing. Simple as that. I use to not use elemental characters, thats what I did. Anyway, thats besides the point. Like I said, I use multi elements quite well thank you. And if I were to use all the elements I normally do, I would have an advantage on every feild type....water, fire, air, and wind. Thats my typical elements.
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:41 pm
Omi: After the GTB is done with I have the EKSto attend. There are alot of good fighters entering that. o: As for everyday roleplays though I agree there isn't much quality around. <_<
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:43 pm
Typhoon Omi Hm. I've been thinking how to expand my character myself; the issue is, GTB's as of late been the only damned place I can test things out on. I can spend hours looking for somewhere decent besides this place on Gaia, and 99% of what I find looks like this:
http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/barton-town/naruto-role-play-pick-you-characters-from-naruto/t.40890137/
Bad luck on my part, perhaps.
And multi-element's just not my style, for a similar ideology of Jack of All Trades / Master of None; I think it's varied enough given most people instantly go "FIRE! USE WATER!" if possible, and bone themselves as a result. I really enjoy how my character operates, but I need to retool him a bit I think. Random idea I thought of as an example: transferring the eyesight of one eye into one of his trademark serpents for reconnaissance or what have you. I am having a lot of trouble getting my character exactly how i want him because he is based on a song/poem system but it just takes time that is all.
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:46 pm
Saphen, am I going to have to bludgeon you with a metal baseball bat just to get you on MSN? Or can I asksweetly and kindly and have that work as well?
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:43 pm
Hey katsu the entire time I've rped which is like ten years or so all I've ever used are elementalists with the exception of two cases and in all that time I have one very important piece of advice for you.
You don't need special abilities to counter us. All you have to do is make sure you can get at us from wherever you are. It takes time to charge up magic or store energy or what have you to use. So the objective is don't let us get that opportunity. Get some form of a ranged weapon if your an up close fighter and keep us on our toes until you can pin us down and do your thing. Or you can do something like I did with Spyke. Read my last fight if you've got time.
The hinge of all power users is how long it takes them to get the energy needed to attack if you have an armor like the one I employ with Spyke that can boost your speed then they don't get the chance they need to charge. You don't even need a booster. Like Saphen said you could alter your character to be an extraordinarily fast, strong, durable, what have you type and use that as an advantage.
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:45 pm
One more thing. All those looking for a battle after this tournament ends can look me up and don't quote me on this but I'm almost positive Saphen will take people on as well. Its hard to find good opponents. Thats half the reason I joined this tournament.
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