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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:47 pm
dramallama
Edit: On the discussion of powers my guy is just a normal h00man. Who happens to know some martial arts, lol.
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:47 pm
Leathery Apron Lolz, Haelstrom. How the ******** do you "half" a post? Do you simply start typing up a few sentences and then somewhere in the midst of the ramble just hit Submit? It could refer to how the flames didn't exist until half way into the third post, but that's just crazy talk, huh smartass?Quote: And sure, creative freedom is allowed to make things seem a lot cooler in your mind but not in the minds of others. For example, I could go " Oh man, it'd be so cool if I could use a Javelin MANPAD on my next opponent for the sheer 'ohmaigawdwtfBBQ' moment!" But I can't, since I wasn't allowed to even bring grenades into this damn tournament but it is fine for you guys to have EXPLODING MUSHROOM CLOUDS OF DOOMLOLOLOL!!1! It ain't like all of the magic/things related users in this tournament were brought together and asked to restrict that s**t. Trust me, I've got nothing against firearms and the like being included; it baffled me why they weren't allowed to begin with.Quote: I can actually bring up a good point that I, myself, was guilty of during the HoH. In order to physically represent how terrifying my character was, I used words that weren't exactly the best choice; however, they are often associated with evil and chaotic archetypes. I got into a lot of trouble for this because my opponent assumed that they were fighting something of HUEG GAI proportions that was invulnerable. If you were caught using an attack capable of creating even hydrogen bomb-esque clouds.. Seriously, you people just saw the image and the word "hydrogen" and started assuming all sorts of epic s**t, didn't ya? Next time you're going to whine over something, make sure to read it more carefully first. I've currently got three masses of hydrogen flame, each about the size of an average human adult roughly; would give an exact size but given their full shape is in flux, that'd be kinda hard to do.
It's actually not that much compared to certain people here or in the past who've summoned towers of flames - but because there was a lot of text to it and you saw the image of the Hindenburg, you immedietely thought "OMG NUKLEAR XPLOSION LOL!!!!," likely because you're an idiot.
But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it's because you let the scenery and the pre-face distort the actual facts of the attack; not a big deal, just something you need to give more thought from here out.Quote: there is an incredibly good chance that that is what people will assume it is. Leading to unneeded bitching on behalf of both parties: "How does I Manhattan Project?" Cog is an incredibly able fighter who had the foresight not to enter this tournament, I on the other hand, had assumed that different manager meant better management. Should have assumed otherwise the moment I saw Dyne's character get in but not even my sidearm was allowed. tl;dr - You're an asshat. /gg sir.
Man, I hate you people. You're nowhere near as fun as Ertai to argue with. At least he could fake a god complex to spice it up a little.
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:48 pm
Haelstrom Fist Yes, and your little bout of piss-poor poetry and poorly cropped "gem-like" object skills are original as could be. Wait, no - I see 12 year olds tote them on this very website every year! How strange!Yeah, because everyone knows what Tzeentch is. And yeah, because a 5 minute photoshop clearly is indicative of someone's PS skills. Seriously, just stop talking. Your signature is just a random animu f*****t image you found on the internet that you erased the edges with a small brush to make it looked all frayed and neat. Then you add some stupid s**t saying that tries to make yourself sound mysterious and deep, and yet you BAAAAAW over mine. And lawl, the argument I was presenting forth wasn't even about signatures, and you go ahead and do it. Sign of bad argument, methinks? Quote: Very first fight, this is all I did. This tournament didn't restrict us to pure melee, however, so I really could care less for your next "point": Grasping for straws. I mentioned many characters who used powers, but balanced them with melee. Never did I say that this should be melee-only. Quote: Immediately over the span of two and a half posts prior to them even existing. And they're hardly nukes, though just as epic. domokun Oh yes, because fire manipulation is such an original, totally awesome ability that has never been used a million times before. Clearly! Quote: What amounts to a failure who believes that because he can pseudoscience his fire ability it makes him totally awesome; oh, and we must not forget how he is sad enough to drag signatures into an argument to further prove how sad he is. Finally, this guy's got one ******** disturbing fetish for Frog from Chrono Trigger. Furfag, much? Yep.
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:54 pm
Why am I being thrown around here like a dirty slut. gonk People keep assuming Murdoch has godly armor. But if anyone saw Fie and him fight, that just wasn't true, not to mention both contenders I have fought against in this tournament, are the ones stating that "stabbing" wouldn't work, and the like. I don't make these claims. xd All it says in my profile is that they can withstand large amounts of kinetic force.
I mean seriously. They're scales, upward stabs anyone?
And yes I just may have screwed myself with that one, but It will only make it all the more enjoyable when used against me.
Tch. I can't even test out new characters anymore without being ragged. crying
Imagination ftw.
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 2:54 pm
[ Cognitive Genome ] Seriously, just stop talking. Your signature is just a random animu f*****t image you found on the internet that you erased the edges with a small brush to make it looked all frayed and neat. Then you add some stupid s**t saying that tries to make yourself sound mysterious and deep, and yet you BAAAAAW over mine. Not even somewhat close, but if it makes you feel better, sure thing! domokun Quote: And lawl, the argument I was presenting forth wasn't even about signatures, and you go ahead and do it. Sign of bad argument, methinks? .. Whazzawhaaaa? Yet you continue the signature argument instead of ignoring it? C'mon, you're making this easy for me. crying Quote: Grasping for straws. I mentioned many characters who used powers, but balanced them with melee. Never did I say that this should be melee-only. Fair enough, but when people don't use melee at all, it's suddenly enough to make your testicles drop for a nice couple of hours of fresh served bitching? It seems to be somewhat near "average/under powered," it has to involve melee somewhere. Or it's wrong.Quote: Oh yes, because fire manipulation is such an original, totally awesome ability that has never been used a million times before. Clearly! Never said my methods of attack were original. "Giant character!!!," "master of (x) art!!," none of it's got a shred of originality in the long run; it's how you use it that eventually should distinguish yourself. Lawl.Quote: What amounts to a failure who believes that because he can pseudoscience his fire ability it makes him totally awesome; Pseudoscience? Really~? Disprove anything I've claimed in that topic aside from the obviously fictional aspect of my attack itself, I'll give you a dollar.Quote: oh, and we must not forget how he is sad enough to drag signatures into an argument to further prove how sad he is. ... I love you.Quote: Finally, this guy's got one ******** disturbing fetish for Frog from Chrono Trigger. Furfag, much? Frog is the s**t, and I'll abuse that emoticon all I want.
I could point out over 2/3rds of your post had nothing to do with your original argument, making you a hypocrite for moaning about how I keep mentioning your failure signature - but as long as you keep up the drama, I'm set. Now, please- to make it better for me, say ".. like a God." one time. Just once.
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:05 pm
Yes, Haelstrom, because you dragged it down in the first place.
My original argument started when reading Jak's and Desi's fights. Then I looked at many of the others and I just shook my head. Sure, my original statement was a bit harsh and uncalled for, but it's true to a certain degree - too many fighters in this tournament are just failures.
I have characters that have plenty of powers. The thing is, I balance them out with plenty of drawbacks, restrictions, weaknesses and the like. Yet, the majority of the fighters here are not only damn good at melee fighting, but they're able to do all sorts of crazy powers without any drawbacks at all.
Judges like Skysong have confirmed that most of your characters have no balance and fail at life - unfortunately, Vintrict graded most of them before he asked for her help, so she wasn't able to hammer down on anyone.
It also pisses me off that something like grenades aren't allowed, but you're able to create multiple large (albeit not Hindenburg-sized - partially my fault for not reading it fully, but partially yours for using the damn pic in the first place. It'd be like someone using a basic fireball and putting a pic of a DBZ ki blast explosion as the picture.) hydrogen explosions. Vintrict really has a ******** up sense of what's fair and what's not.
Oh, and Robo owns Frog, btw.
@ Dyne - Initially I was like "wut" with your character, but I did read the fight with Fierarch and your guy is fine. A bit too HUEG for my tastes in a tournament (my "HUEG GAI" is 6'6" and weighs 300'ish pounds and he smashes people just fine), but easily balanced compared to Infer's character.
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:08 pm
Whoever said that stabbing doesn't work against armor should have their swording privileges revoked.
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:12 pm
True, I suppose I did instigate things a little bit on my own end. On the subject of drawbacks, LAST GTB, I had my "ultimate wtfpwn move" against a guy with powers you won't believe do a LOT of damage.. but in the process, not just wind me - it outright crippled my character. How I won that fight still stuns me to this day. I should've been so damned easy to take out after that, it'd been like clubbing a baby; but I agree, for every advantage, there should be some sort of appropriate disadvantage.
And hey, again - I couldn't think of a more famous incident involving Hydrogen Flames, so I wanted the idea to get across at one glance. I suppose I got more across than I bargained for though, so true enough.
.. But no. Masamune'd rape Robo in the face, it split a mountain. Robo's got a badass theme song and can pull off some awesome moves, sure - but Frog is superior to all. He's an outright beast.
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:19 pm
Glad you share that viewpoint.
The main problem I had with your character was me thinking you were making some sort of massive hydrogen bomb the size of the Hindenburg. However, even then, Hydrogen doesn't nearly burn as hot as the s**t Infer is using for his character. His character is the one that pissed me off the most and set off that rant. In addition, he did all of that failure I mentioned above (insta shields, impenetrable CLOTHING, ninjar powers, etc.).
And yeah, I understand what you're saying with the Hydrogen picture. It works in some ways (it being hydrogen and all), but it can also make people initially think "wtf?"
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:22 pm
People coming to agreeable terms?
On MY internet?
This is not acceptable.
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:29 pm
Designated Hero People coming to agreeable terms? On MY internet? This is not acceptable. Quick.
We need to keep this argument going.
Uh.
Hael called you a whore Cog.
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:29 pm
For anything particularly "spectacular" in roleplays like these, I like to Photoshop up some images here and there. That was originally a rather famous gray scale photograph of the Hindenburg explosion I touched up. It's both to keep me from getting rusty in 'shop, and to kinda enhance the imagery on my posts from time to time.
I was half-debating showing an image of a lab experiment involving a tiny bit of hydrogen, but that wouldnt've gotten the raw destructive force across very well. Yet the Hindenburg may've been a little too extreme of an example, it's a b***h to get a medium. domokun
And the big problem with giga-uber attacks and characters, is that the more godly things they try to toss in, the more minor yet glaring flaws they usually open up accidentally. So I usually don't complain about an opponent being "over-powered" unless something implausible happens.
Take.. I hate to use him as an example, but Ertai. His character clashed the aftermath of dimensions exploding at his enemies, for Christ's sake. Yet when I'd read his matches, he'd do stupid s**t, like "my attacks don't work if they go faster than the speed of light!.. my attack just reached you faster than light could!" - nulling himself like every other post.
Epic strength characters does not victory make.
AND HERO, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K--YiJma6xI - submit.
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:33 pm
It always seems like the end of a daytime kid's show when people come to agreeable terms on Gaia.
redface
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:33 pm
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2008 3:53 pm
This is getting out of hand again. Cog, you're a visitor, but that doesn't mean you're given the same privileges are leeway as the fighters. Coming in here to rile people up on what's fair and what's not is not what I want here. Grenades are allowed, by the way. Just certain weaponry is banned to decrease on a few things.
In short, this tournament is for both melee and power users. I said that a thousand times already. Just because I said I want this more balanced doesn't mean I was saying "you have to have the least amount of powers to get into this tournament and win the judges favor." No. Entertainment, roleplaying, and the like wins you these battles, no matter if you're the h2h-only fighter or the greatest magic user in the world who cares nothing for melee combat. Coming in here to complain about that is the wrong thing to do, mainly for the fact that, for the last time, this is nothing like HoH. Because of that, people can enter their more comfortable characters with a comfortable feel to them without worrying about cutting back on the specialties of their characters. I have got on people for some things, but in the end, negotiations led to everyone being happy.
So, in the end, calling anyone's characters in this tournament broken is just a futile attempt to show a lack of understanding for what this tournament is about and what it strives for. Before you ever make a one-sided argument, include points from the other side. Now, as my cree, I say we once again lower the tone of this all.
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