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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:30 am
Okay, from what I have read, I see that some of you are addressing Cleris fans as a whole, saying "Cleris fans say this, Cleris fans do that". That's not exactly fair to LOGICAL and intelligent people that support the CloudXAeris shipping. :/ You should of said that particular fans you've met had acted that way, not Cleris fans as a whole. That's demeaning their opinion, I think. Anyways, like I said, my friend said that he had been 'mean' to Tifa, got Aeris on the dating scene AND rarely used her in battle and got the same highwind scene. :O So I didn't know it could be different. I guess I'll actually have to go out and see for myself ><;; I played it once trying to make Tifa Cloud's love interest, and now I'm currently playing it to try and be fair on both sides. I was going to say to "suit Cloud's personality" but that's hard to do, because we don't really know for sure how he would respond to certain things. Everything that happened in the game, I guess, can be traced back to assumptions. However, there are still some scenes where you have no say in the matter, where Cloud in fact, acknowledges both of the girls in a caring way. I don't like Aeris, but I won't bring down her character. I too, see the 'flirty' fault that Aeris has, and yet she still maintains her perfect-esque. :O I don't really know how to explain it--- without "lowering" her character. Since this is a pro thread, I don't feel obligated to. I don't support Cloti more than Cleris because I like Tifa more than Aeris. If I liked them both the same, I can honestly say that I'd support CloudXTifa... because I can dig up "fanbased", "non logical", and "logical" information.
I think it's safe to say that all of FFVII-as far as love goes- was meant for the player of Cloud(You) have fun in choosing his romance interest. Lol, unfortunately it's turned into a giant dispute.
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:59 am
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:24 pm
Sorry about that LunarSong. It's just that there aren't many logical people in this world. Most of the forums I go to are where Cleris fans totally bash Cloti with irrelevant points and the most stupid interpretation of the game/movie/novel, etc... They only see Cleris! That's what pisses me off. I can respect people like Amylin, but you don't see too many people like them.
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:25 pm
whee So pretty...I wish I could draw like that.
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:50 pm
I love the pic of Cloud and Tifa bathing Red XIII.... so cute.
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 5:31 pm
Amylin I love the pic of Cloud and Tifa bathing Red XIII.... so cute. Yeah I love Red! He was such an underrate character. I mean they hardly showed him in AC and almost completely cut him out of DoC. It's sad. sad
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:44 pm
heart CLOTI heart
>>>thanks RanmaxHikaru for the Cloti pics xd
>>>i usually don't go to the sub-forums so didn't saw this thread until ....now....but anyways ninja
>>>hmm....reasons why i like CLoti....I don't know, the two just grows on me as a couple, esp. after AC, some fanfictions, fanart, and fan-made "mvs" (youtube)
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:46 pm
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:03 pm
Oh yeah I absolutely love those. I tried posting them once but they wouldn't show up. I wish I could find the doujinshi they came out of. neutral
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:05 pm
sw33tmischi3f heart CLOTI heart >>>thanks RanmaxHikaru for the Cloti pics xd >>>i usually don't go to the sub-forums so didn't saw this thread until ....now....but anyways ninja >>>hmm....reasons why i like CLoti....I don't know, the two just grows on me as a couple, esp. after AC, some fanfictions, fanart, and fan-made "mvs" (youtube) Welcome to the thread! I hope you become a regular member here. xd
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 4:42 pm
HOLD EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i know and am friends with alot of clerises and clotis and we have debate nights but that is besides the point anywho every cleris i do or dont has mentioned that cloti couldnt work because ibn AC they were more of a family you no what i say to that bs cloti can work because they are not related and another and this BY FAR is the most FREAKING ANNOYING Tifa is alive and Aeris is wats the word...DEAD!!!!
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:19 pm
I actually got an affection guide in order to see all the dates. I very close to seeing the Barret date, but Yuffie's requirements were so mean I felt bad doing them. An example: You have to bring both Aeris and Tifa in your party in Kalm and go into that house with the two girls in it that say different things about Shinra and do the opposite of what you would normally do. That is to say that Shinra is almighty and animals and plants and clean air are overrated.
When you visit Fort Condor, you have to turn down both the opportunity to listen to them and don't agree to help them with both Aeris and Tifa in your party. Then you have to say on the ship "I don't know" to Aeris about her comment on riding the airship and respond "I dunno" when Tifa asks whether war should be gotten rid of altogether. Then you need to take both Aeris and Tifa to the Gongaga and visit Zack's parents and ignore both of them by just leaving.
After that it isn't so bad, and neither are the Midgar options (Barret kept me up; you better get out of here; getting caught on the train was a pain but not that horrible; Tifa is Cloud's girlfriend; say Kinda hard to Tifa when locked up in Shinra HQ).
Anyway, if this third scene is dependent on being mean to Tifa, then you should continuiously talk to Tifa in the jail cell and tell her Kinda hard and it'll take away 1 affection point a pop. If you want to see the really nice scene then say "Leave it to me" and repeat that over and over again and it'll add one to Tifa's affection level.
Do this and I'm sure you'll be able to see all three scenes within three games. Besides, I think I outlined the major things, the rest should be pretty easy to figure out.
Oh, by the way the Yuffie date was really funny (as odd as this may seem, she get the 'farthest' with Cloud on the date: She kisses him on the cheek and when Cloud went into an akward silence Yuffie begged him to say something. He said "...something." and Yuffie slaps him). Barret's date was pretty comical in context, but in my opinion when that guy announced they were the 100th couple in Barret should have wailed on him.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:35 pm
Well most Claeris I have talked to think that Cloud loved Aeris and will keep on loving her even thought she's dead and that Cloud will never move on with Tifa. I don't know but to me I think that's completely unrealistic. Even if Cloud was romantically in love with Aeris that doesn't mean that he can't move on with Tifa. Real people have spouses that die but that doesn't mean that they can't find someone else that they can love just as much. It's just one of those on going arguments.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 5:39 pm
Sara Hysaro I actually got an affection guide in order to see all the dates. I very close to seeing the Barret date, but Yuffie's requirements were so mean I felt bad doing them. An example: You have to bring both Aeris and Tifa in your party in Kalm and go into that house with the two girls in it that say different things about Shinra and do the opposite of what you would normally do. That is to say that Shinra is almighty and animals and plants and clean air are overrated. When you visit Fort Condor, you have to turn down both the opportunity to listen to them and don't agree to help them with both Aeris and Tifa in your party. Then you have to say on the ship "I don't know" to Aeris about her comment on riding the airship and respond "I dunno" when Tifa asks whether war should be gotten rid of altogether. Then you need to take both Aeris and Tifa to the Gongaga and visit Zack's parents and ignore both of them by just leaving. After that it isn't so bad, and neither are the Midgar options (Barret kept me up; you better get out of here; getting caught on the train was a pain but not that horrible; Tifa is Cloud's girlfriend; say Kinda hard to Tifa when locked up in Shinra HQ). Anyway, if this third scene is dependent on being mean to Tifa, then you should continuiously talk to Tifa in the jail cell and tell her Kinda hard and it'll take away 1 affection point a pop. If you want to see the really nice scene then say "Leave it to me" and repeat that over and over again and it'll add one to Tifa's affection level. Do this and I'm sure you'll be able to see all three scenes within three games. Besides, I think I outlined the major things, the rest should be pretty easy to figure out. Oh, by the way the Yuffie date was really funny (as odd as this may seem, she get the 'farthest' with Cloud on the date: She kisses him on the cheek and when Cloud went into an akward silence Yuffie begged him to say something. He said "...something." and Yuffie slaps him). Barret's date was pretty comical in context, but in my opinion when that guy announced they were the 100th couple in Barret should have wailed on him. I always wanted to see the Yuffie date played out just because I thought it would be interesting.
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Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 7:56 pm
NerotheSable7714 HOLD EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i know and am friends with alot of clerises and clotis and we have debate nights but that is besides the point anywho every cleris i do or dont has mentioned that cloti couldnt work because ibn AC they were more of a family you no what i say to that bs cloti can work because they are not related and another and this BY FAR is the most FREAKING ANNOYING Tifa is alive and Aeris is wats the word...DEAD!!!! 3nodding I hear ya! By far, Cloud and Tifa are the closest to each other.
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