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 Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 1:38 pm
Sooooo... this happened.
In everyone's defense, the RP was making headway, which is great. Plus in the previous thread he was covered already.
If people want to mention Franz still this next week since he got absolutely no love, that's cool with me. All I was going to go into since there's not much new to say since I last talked about him in the previous thread was the dynamics he has with Amelia. Their supports are interesting for Franz because he treats Amelia like an equal and designates her a good candidate for a rival for him the way his brother and Kyle are. But they aren't equals. Franz is technically a knight in a way Amelia is most definitely not, yet. And they're both orphans and it's interesting to compare their similarities and differences. I'm glad they have a paired ending together. I'd say more but I guess their pairing can be saved for Amelia week. And Franz chance to shine is OVER.
Anyway, it's now Eliwood Week! He should garner posts, right? If Eliwood can't, we're probably doomed.
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:38 pm
eliwood eliwood eliwood eliwood eliwood eliwood eliwood Eliwood is waaaaay up there on the list of lords in terms of who my favorite is. I think he may be my favorite lord period. He works so well with the other characters in the story and I don't care if he has to measure up to Hector "Smash everything in my way" of Ostia, he's bloody fantastic. From a character perspective, I've always appreciated his personality when we have Hector and Lyn in the story. They're both considerably more hotheaded than he is, they argue constantly, and they're typically much more impulsive. In such a delicate situation in terms of plot-- political leaders missing, ascension trouble within a military power and infighting within the royal family, etc-- it's absolutely vital that someone as even-handed as Eliwood is around. He's quite good at keeping himself calm in tense situations, and he approaches the turns of the plot quite rationally. The most noteworthy time in which I can recall him legitimately losing his temper and his patience was when dealing with Hellene, facing a woman who seemingly only cared about the Fire Emblem and her bloodborn son becoming the official heir to the throne, rather than showing any concern for him nearly being assassinated the night before. And it was rightfully deserved; Hellene was being a right p***k. But even when he loses his temper, he still manages to be constructive about what he says, because it's thanks to Eliwood's words that Hellene realizes she's been completely blinded by her desire to show up her husband. On a personal note, I generally also adore how he gets along with Ninian and his other potential support partners. I know Ninian's not canon or anything, but she might as well be in my eyes, I suppose. The two of them show an immediate gravitation towards each other. For goodness' sakes, Eliwood of all people asks her for a 'special dance' in their C support! I'm pretty sure the boy's fallen hard. And his distraught response to her death exists whether or not you support her with the redheaded lord. Hmmm. And in terms of gameplay, I honestly really appreciate getting a Lord unit with much more balanced growths and stats. Hector is a Str/Def powerhouse, yeah, but he's also got a high chance of losing out on Spd and Skl, which basically turns him into a lord Oswin. We all know how Lyn is flawed, like a Myrmidon with all the Myrmidon-y stats pumped up and everything else ignored. Nothing is more frustrating than a Lord with 3 Defense at Level 20. While Eliwood can certainly end up lackluster in comparison to his companions, especially if they grow well-- they only need serious luck in a few stats, I suppose, as opposed to Eliwood needing consistently overall decent growth rolls. And if that's something you don't want to deal with, that's fine. But I appreciate a solid Lord with stats that are really hard to completely screw up, and it can also change how he grows and thus change how he's used in play. And I really like that adaptability in his growth! Plus he starts with Swords in a game where a ton of your enemies use axes, and then gets Lances later which really helps mitigate the power loss of Swords and lack of a reliable 1-2 weapon. And he gets a horse. Horse upon promotion really helps basically everything. Also, he lives through FE6. Bonus points, my boy. tl;dr Hell yeah, Eliwood. Together we ride, man. 
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Posted: Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:09 pm
We got some Eliwood discussion. Hooray! Also, I'm sorry if I forgot about Franz week. To be honest, I completely forgot about it. Plus I don't really know what I could've said about him.... sweatdrop
I think I can relate with Eliwood, since FE7 was my first game in the series. a lot of people tend to bash on Eliwood saying "Oh noes, Eliwood can't double anything" or "His character sucks blah blah blah..."
Those that say Eliwood is bad have not even seen Roy as a unit, so they can just shove it up their a-
*ahem* Anyways! In all seriousness, Eliwood is by no means a bad unit at all. In fact he's actually pretty good. He may not be the best unit in terms of stats, but I would kind of consider him to be one of the better lord. At first, yes he may not be exactly that great but he can grow in time! Heck, he gains a freaking mount upon promotion. Plus not to mention, he can wield lances as his secondary weapon which does rather suit him. A mount is far way better than Lyn gaining bows, or Hector gaining sword. Eliwood is certainly a balanced lord and I do like that about him.
I'm also quite fond of Eliwood's character myself. The tactician may no have a personality, but you could see it from his/her perspective how thoughtful and charming he can be. Even from the ending, when the both of you part ways it's very a heartwarming scene. He may not have huge confidant in his ability to rule as king, but he will grow and learn in time. And UNLIKE his son, he actually listens to his advisor! Both Eliwood and Marcus have some great friendship with each other. I love their supports.
He's calm and has good judgment. He's not my favorite FE lord in the series, but I definitely think he's up there for sure. Eliwood is usually the one that keeps everyone together. Lyn and Hector do bicker with each other from time to time, but it's Eliwood that rationalizes the situation.
Like with Mallow said, the NinianXEliwood pairing may not be canon, but I really think that both of them have great chemistry as a couple. To me, I feel the both of them are meant to be together. I'm not really a fan of the other pairings but I still really enjoy those two. The scenes that they have together are really cute. Like in the scene before the desert chapter, Ninian feels like she's the blame for Elbert's death. But Eliwood doesn't think that way about her at all. So that in itself makes for some sweet conversations.
At one point he comments on how he loves the way she laughs, and there's just complete silence.... I just freaking love that. It's these little interactions of screen time that they have together which totally makes it for me.
Also, depending if you support those two all the way to A, you'll affect the way the game ends. So In that regard, I do find that interesting... Ninian will go back to her world, or she'll stay with Eliwood and live a shorten life. Both decisions no matter how you look at things are sad either way...
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Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 2:53 pm
Let me start be talking about how Eliwood probably has the best introduction of any Fire Emblem lord ever. When I first played FE7, I didn't own it. A friend of mine who got into FE at the same time I did but got a hard copy of FE7 before me lent me her copy. She stuck around for the first stint of Lyn mode. When it came to the chapter where you meet Nils for the first time and I beat it, she got excited. Eliwood's entrance made her so happy, I remember her joy. And I don't blame her! Because right when it seems like the enemies have won, the mysterious gang of assassins has made off with Ninian, and despite their hard work the enemies have won... BAM BOOM! BEHOLD, I AM ELIWOOD, THE GOOD WITCH OF THE NORTH! I BELIEVE THIS IS THE ONE YOU ARE LOOKING FOR, MY SON!He's carrying Ninian in a sudden CG, accompanied by his triumphant theme music. Instant attraction nothing, this is the stuff that dreams are made of! He might as well have ridden in on a white stallion flanked by Gaussian blur and rose petals! A lot of people initially overlooked Eliwood because he isn't as hotheaded as Hector or because he is more level-headed. But that does not make him bland, and I can't even imagine why some people think he is bland. Especially when the contrast between Hector and Eliwood's personalities make them perfect foils to one another. I wouldn't like either of them as much as I do if the other one wasn't there to bounce off of. One of my favorite Eliwood moments (or FE7 moments in general) is the aforementioned scene where Eliwood calls out Queen Hellane on her behavior. But there are deeper reasons, I feel, why this scene is so powerful. If I remember correctly, after they have retrieved the Fire Emblem and saved Zephiel from assassination, Hector and Lyn voice how they aren't the most suited for pleasantries and talking with royalty, while Eliwood is being far more curt than usual. But when they start talking, it is not the country girl Lyn or the hoodblooded Hector that get angry. It's Eliwood. Level-headed voice of reason Eliwood. It's quite the contrast for those who don't know what is coming and didn't notice the warning signs. He has his dukes up from the moment he enters that room, asking Hellane probing questions, and then exploding at her. Can you imagine how much this whole setup must have bothered Eliwood in order for him to react in such a way? To not just get him to his boiling point, but imagine the show he must have put on, how he must have looked to Hellane to have her go through such a change of heart in such a short time. Can you imagine how Eliwood must have felt, to have climbed into snow-covered mountains and snuck into an assassin base to retrieve the emblem and shed blood and sweat to protect Zephiel late into the night, only to see Hellane for what she really is and have her treat her own son as a means to an end. Everything just converges so beautifully in this scene, channeled through Eliwood. It is so contradictory to Eliwood's normal demeanor and it uses Lyn and Hector as foils to set up the reaction, but it doesn't seem out of character at all given how events have unfolded with him at the head, and how well he lays things out. At the end he even sees his own reaction as improper and potentially dooming to their cause, apologizing to his fellows for ruining their one opportunity to find the shrine of seals. ...But of course, he brings out the humanity in Queen Hellane who actively seeks them out and thanks Eliwood for reminding her what is most important in life. Far more valuable than just handing over the emblem and leaving. Bravo FE7, and Bra-Freaking-Vo Eliwood. You wonderful ginger lord you. I'll probably jump back into the conversation later, but seriously, Eliwood is great, and in that scene in particular. Anyone who calls Eliwood bland must be blind, since he has plenty of shows of emotion, be it happiness, crushing sadness, anger, and above all, a level-headed intelligence that shows us exactly why he is the main character instead of the other two. Also sad Eliwood breaks my heart. How dejected he is after Elbert's death, along with the sad!Eliwood mug is really crushing to see. Aww baby... I once had an Eliwood that far outweighed Hector in defense. Talk about stat-blessed. Tankiwood might never happen again, but I'll remember him forever.
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:57 pm
I've liked Eliwood even before he was playable. When I first encountered him in Lyn Mode, I loved how the two of them interacted, and how brave he was to rush in and help Ninian. I wanted him as my ally in Lyn Mode, but I was kind of disappointed when he stayed an NPC.
But then I was stoked when I got to play him in the main story! When I first played FE, I was very excited that he was a main character. At first I only liked him for his design, but then when I played the game a second time around, I really started paying attention to the story.
Eliwood is my favorite Lord, story-wise. He has amazing character interactions with Hector, Ninian, Marcus, and even his mother Eleanora. I think what really makes me love Eliwood is his overall determination and resolve. He goes through so much on his journey, but he still perseveres. In the end of FE 7, he even senses another storm is coming. And Eliwood seems ready for it. He's the type of guy who would fight for the peace he wants in Lycia, and to me that's pretty awesome.
Unit-wise, he has been hit-and-miss for me.
I remember files where his stats turned out fine, and others where I had to feed him all the stat boosters to make him decent. His mounted capability and his sword usage do come in handy though. The Rapier is a great weapon too! If I'm playing Hector Mode, I usually save the Hammerne staff for that.
Eliwood's supports build up incredibly fast, especially with Hector. It makes those handy bonuses much easier to obtain.
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Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:49 pm
Basically, Eliwood is the best lord in FE7 on Hector mode because horse. He really does get the most out of the promotion and can get the first seal in Hector version. Reliable 1-2 range added AND mount utility and movement. Going by his averages, he definitely has the stats and tools (Rapier!) to get the job done. Even if he had significantly worse stats though, mounts are generally speaking, THAT good, and I'd stand by my statement. If the best stat in the series isn't speed, it's movement.
As for calling him hit and miss, there's actually an interesting explanation for the validity of this. The further stat grows are from 50%, the likelier they are to be closer to their expected averages, but the closer to 50% they are, the likelier they are to stray further away from the averages and be either blessed or cursed. And Eliwood's stat growths are more middle-of-the-road than those of his Lord counterparts, so this definitely applies to him.
But if you go by averages which is fair, his stats are fine.
As a character, I really am very fond of Eliwood. His final scene with his father is probably the only time a GBA game has brought me to tears. Very endearing, obviously a good guy who is able to see the big picture when he needs to for the plot. Should have considered remarrying after the death.
His friendship with Hector is one of the most beautiful in the series. Lords that are pals have very rarely gotten to explore their friendship over the course of a game so thoroughly with different gradients the way he and Hector have. It's nuances like Matthew finding Hector in that house during Lyn Mode for their sparring match that really flesh it out.
I'd go on, but I'm very tired at the moment. Perhaps later in the week.
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Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 7:47 pm
Soooooo.... after my post yesterday, and I was REALLY tired yesterday, something more interesting about his character came to mind to talk about.
What he says to Queen Hellene. The entire WORLD is at risk because of Nergal's plots. Eliwood is soooo aware of this because of the enormous efforts they have since gone through and for which he required great emotional and personal resolve to push forward with right after the death of his father. And he goes off on the one person whose help they basically need potentially ruining ALL their work and putting the entire world at stake.
No. Sorry, no.
I like that he realizes just how dangerous his lecture was after the fact, but it's unfortunate that everyone insists that he did the right thing. Because he didn't. It all gets to work out in the end and how wonderful that our Lord gets the Queen to see the error of her ways and have a change of heart and he gets to be the morally superior hero who doesn't suffer negative consequences for being such a good guy, with everyone supporting his stupid outburst.
But what if the Queen didn't have a change of heart? Given what is at stake, his actions were inappropriate, and it's unfortunate in a way that the game and everyone else praises him for it. It's not unlike Ike never getting punished by Sanaki and that whole thread Tiki made a while back about Lords never getting punished for their actions when they should. Add this example to the list. It didn't occur to me that Eliwood fit the bill until his week in this thread, but he does.
One unsavory, seemingly heartless shady lady is not worth the entire world. The end. In the big picture, it's simply not defensible. It's to Eliwood's credit that he's the one who realizes how foolish it was, but it's to the game's detriment overall that it's presented the way it is.
I don't blame Eliwood's character for it, because it was in his character to behave as he did and it's to his credit that he realizes what impact it could have had, but the way the game praises him for it is too bad.
It was foolish, Eliwood. Always remember that you could've lost everything over it and you were erroneously praised.
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 6:06 am
Manic Martini Soooooo.... after my post yesterday, and I was REALLY tired yesterday, something more interesting about his character came to mind to talk about. What he says to Queen Hellene. The entire WORLD is at risk because of Nergal's plots. Eliwood is soooo aware of this because of the enormous efforts they have since gone through and for which he required great emotional and personal resolve to push forward with right after the death of his father. And he goes off on the one person whose help they basically need potentially ruining ALL their work and putting the entire world at stake. No. Sorry, no. I like that he realizes just how dangerous his lecture was after the fact, but it's unfortunate that everyone insists that he did the right thing. Because he didn't. It all gets to work out in the end and how wonderful that our Lord gets the Queen to see the error of her ways and have a change of heart and he gets to be the morally superior hero who doesn't suffer negative consequences for being such a good guy, with everyone supporting his stupid outburst. But what if the Queen didn't have a change of heart? Given what is at stake, his actions were inappropriate, and it's unfortunate in a way that the game and everyone else praises him for it. It's not unlike Ike never getting punished by Sanaki and that whole thread Tiki made a while back about Lords never getting punished for their actions when they should. Add this example to the list. It didn't occur to me that Eliwood fit the bill until his week in this thread, but he does. One unsavory, seemingly heartless shady lady is not worth the entire world. The end. In the big picture, it's simply not defensible. It's to Eliwood's credit that he's the one who realizes how foolish it was, but it's to the game's detriment overall that it's presented the way it is. I don't blame Eliwood's character for it, because it was in his character to behave as he did and it's to his credit that he realizes what impact it could have had, but the way the game praises him for it is too bad. It was foolish, Eliwood. Always remember that you could've lost everything over it and you were erroneously praised. I didn't think it was the right thing to do, I thought it was a really good scene. The short time where everyone is resigned to failure separates it from when Ike talks back to Sanaki in FE9, where there is no immediate consequences at all. It would be better if there was some sort of lasting consequence, but for what it is, I really enjoy it. The scene's setup and all of the things going on in your head really makes it better than FE9's transgression, which just is what it is. I'll stand by that. But yeah. Let's see, I've come up with an alternative to this happening to Ike and Chrom... What if they had to find the shrine themselves? Apparently the Black Fang knows where it was, they were there waiting for our crew to arrive. Maybe Desmond told them. What if we followed the Black Fang? What if we had to go through more trials and tribulations because of Eliwood's outburst? Aww man, that would pile on the depression after they leave the shrine, that's for sure. What if we were still able to recruit Vaida during a different chapter? We still stopped Zephiel's assassination, after all. Maybe Vaida would show us where it was. Vaida served the royal family, after all. And even if she didn't know where it was, maybe her position in the black fang would help. The chapters we went through for the sake of Queen Hellane wouldn't feel like a waste, since we still learned a lot about the Black Fang and stopped Zephiel's assassination, which would lead into this. It wouldn't come out of nowhere, either, since Vaida was already introduced. Yeah!
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Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:12 pm
So I realize that Eliwood week is almost over, and I have yet to say anything about Eliwood.
(In my defense, as soon as I found out it was Eliwood week I started screaming and never stopped because ELIWEEEEEEEEEEEERD. |D;; )
In case anyone missed the giant billboard complete with flashing lights, ElixNini is my OTP of OTPS (I WILL GO DOWN WITH THIS SHIP I WILL SHIP THEM FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER) and therefore I am COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY BIASED when it comes to Eliwood. Even before Ninian became my favorite character in FE7, Eliwood was my favorite lord, from the very first moment he appears in that CG with Ninian in his arms.
I could write novels about how much I love Eliwood and how much I love Eliwood and Ninian and the way their lives are intertwined and the tragedy that is EVERYTHING, buuuuuuuut everyone above pretty much hit all the awesome points, so I won't repeat what everyone else already said.
I would like to draw attention to the tragedy that is the relationships and connections between Eliwood, Ninian, and their respective fathers. The whole story of FE7 starts with Nergal's quest for power (which was, initially, in order to save his family). Elbert gets drawn in to Nergal's plotting and disappears; six months later, Eliwood goes searching for his father, only to find him moments before Ninian, under Nergal's control, kills Elbert. Prior to this, Nergal had called Ninian and her brother Nils from the other side of the Dragon's Gate. Eliwood rescues Ninian from the Black Fang during the events of Lyn's story, and later, Elbert is a source of comfort to Ninian and Nils when they are held prisoners on the island of Valor, almost like a father to them as Nils tells Eliwood. And then, of course, Eliwood kills Ninian, and then the party spends the rest of the game trying to stop Nergal, which results in his death. It's all one giant mess of connections and tragedy after tragedy, and all of those connections in all of their tangledness are what make the story so compelling for me.
So . . . yeah! I LOVE FE7 I LOVE ELIWOOD I WILL BE SCREAMING ABOUT THIS LIFE RUINER OF A GAME FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY AND IDK WHAT ELSE TO SAY EXCEPT ELIWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERD!!! |D;;;;;;;;;;
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Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 6:46 pm
Thank you to everyone who contributed to a pretty interesting Eliwood Week, as always. Definitely some interesting points that got brought up.
It's now Allen Week, the Red Knight of FE6!
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Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 10:50 pm
As far as mounts go in FE6, Allen and Lance are probably your best bet for Paladins. I also want to mention that Treck's another favorite mount of mine, and so is Percival... But that's for another time.
Looking at their 20/20 average stats between the two, they're really not all that different really... Allen does have more strength, and slightly better HP, luck and defense. Lance on the other hand is better in terms of skill, and his resistance is slightly better. I'm more of a fan of Lance, but I think both can be used consecutively too. They really give Roy huge support bonuses too.
Allen
HP: 56.3 Str 25 Skl 21.2 SPD 25 Luck 18.2 Def 17.5 Res: 6.8
Lance
HP 53.4 Str 22.2 Skl 25.1 SPD 25 Luck 15.3 Def 15.6 Res: 8.7
Allen is the red knight of the series, so naturally he'd focus in strength being the red bull archetype. And he does have excellent strength. But he'll even cap speed as well and his other stats aren't too bad, save for resistance.(Though, mounts in Fe6 just have problems in that area anyways) As for his personality well... He's certainly a nice guy. He's the type that tries to become a stronger knight, and I honestly like the supports between him and Lance. Both are there to help each other out as rivals, but they have a bond too. One or the other strives to improve over time.
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Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 10:17 am
I needed to refresh myself a bit on mister Franz and certain points of FE8 before posting. I haven't played FE8 for a while, and Eirika and Seth are far easier for me to comment on. I'd feel bad if I didn't comment here anyway, so here goes, even though it probably won't be as interesting.
What I remember thinking about Franz (and what his averages reaffirm) is his speediness compared to the other two cavaliers. While he is quite well rounded, as was already stated, he starts out with great speed for his level and with a 50% speed growth, that'll keep rising. His bases are also not too far off from the other two cavaliers when you get him, but of course Franz comes in earlier and 5-6 levels lower, so not only does he have more room to grow, any sort of "catching up" he might have to do is painless and probably won't be noticed at all if you use your Franz healthily from right off the bat. I remember using Franz in most of my playthroughs for this reason, though his earlier joining time probably didn't hurt.
I don't remember a single thing about Franz character wise. Whoop.
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Posted: Sat Jun 14, 2014 7:47 am
I always use Allen and Lance both in FE6. The difference between their growths is smaller than in later entries in the series, too, as has been mentioned, but the biggest selling point for the both is a fabulously fast triangle support between them and Roy.
Roy is normally awful. Slap on sup Allen and Lance supports who you should be using anyway since they're both great units by FE6 standards (top tier!) and he's suddenly got a lot more offense. A Lance, B Roy gives Allen a delicious 5 Atk and 25 Avoid, if I recall correctly, off the top of my head. And since they all have perfect availability and you're forced to drag Roy everywhere and you'll probably WANT to deploy Allen and Lance everywhere, it sings.
As far as his character goes, he's kind of bland but has some proto-Kieran qualities, actually. And a pseudo-possible pairing in Tate/Thito/the middle pegasus girl whom Klein hired.
His support with Roy also - surprise, surprise - have Roy being ridiculous, saying how it's totally possible to succeed in war without any casualties and putting down more realistic views. But Allen at least says he's not sure it's possible instead of outright saying Roy is right and shame on himself for not seeing Roy's greatness. Some props to you for that, Allen. Just a little.
And that's Allen. Great FE6 unit. Use him.
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Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:29 pm
Thanks again to all who posted for Allen week.
Now, Thracia fans unite! It's Othin week!
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:53 am
YES, OTHLIN!!!!!!!!!
*ahem* Othlin will always be my all time favorite axe user from the series. If anyone hasn't noticed in the past character of the weeks or best/worst thread, I totally tend to praise him a lot but for good reasons which I'll get to eventually. So yeah you could say I'm a pretty big fan of Othlin. He's got a pretty cool looking design too. Though, I know that axe users tend to be not too popular with most FE fans, and I do understand why. Axes while very powerful, aren't very accurate. It's apparent in the early parts of the Fire Emblem games. I mean, axes are practically useless in FE1-3. FE4 is where axes do get better, like Lex really benefits from the Hero/Brave Axe. And blah blah blah... I don't want to meander too long.
Point is there's actually some great axe weapons in FE5. Like the Master Axe, and unlike the brave axe it's a throwing weapon too. There's also a Brave Axe too however and it's also good. And last but not least, the Pugi Axe, the Pugi Axe, did I mention the PUGI AXE?! It's a personal special weapon which Othlin starts off with in the beginning of Thracia 776. And it's freaking amazing. His old man even yammers him over the head to take it with him.
What's so very special about this axe in particular is that it pretty much gives the user more critical power. And it has like 60 uses! It's a deadly weapon especially if Othlin has it. I mean considering the man has the wrath ability as his personal starting skill, even if he misses his target the first time(Which can happen obviously in FE5), he'll almost always land critical damage by the next attack. Now, combine all of that with an ambush/Vantage scroll and you've got yourself an insanely powerful monster.
Othlin starts off as a Level 1 Fighter, and his bases aren't too shabby in the beginning either. He's most definitely a speedster and he'll double and crit enemies relatively well. He should in the end be able to cap Speed, Luck, and build for sure.His other stats may or may not cap depending on your luck, but they'll still become extremely good. In terms of support bonuses, it is kind of a shame he can only gain bonuses from Tanya and Eyvel. Tanya and Othlin I do understand, since they both have a love hate relationship going on between them. And Eyvel is pretty much the leader of the warriors of Fiana. However, I do find it kind of weird that he doesn't gain supports from Halvan. Aren't like both of them sort of like rivals? At least from the cinematic opening that's how I tend to to see...(Even though it's not translated unfortunately)
If you plan attempting the ever so monotonous Xavier recruitment, he's very much the perfect man for the job of distracting the 8 Generals.
And unlike his best buddy Halvan who promotes into the Warrior class, he can become a Hero instead! THE GREAT HERO OTHLIN!!! So he can also use swords which is pretty cool I'd say. FE5 really did introduce this change, since it wasn't until FE8 when Fighters had an option to change their usual class direction.
If you went through the B route like I have, there's actually a second Pugi axe which is totally possible to steal off a Berserker I believe? Or probably a Warrior enemy... Since I do remember he had a master bow on him.
(I'll talk about his character later on which I am fond off actually... XD)
Alright I'll finish up some Othlin stuff. I didn't really go into his character last time... But well, with what dialogue they give him, I do find him kind of relatable. Othlin is surely brash and reckless, and definitely the kind of guy to charge in without thinking. Yet his reason is very understandable, his whole village is being attacked by Redric and his Manster minions. He cares for the village and everyone there he knew for so long.
He's not so great with dealing the way he acts, and the only relative he has left besides Halvan and other companions of the warrior's of fiana is his father.(Who's nice enough to remind Othlin to grab his Pugi axe before he leaves) The two bicker like father and son do, but he's out there fighting with the army and he doesn't have a choice but fight for his village and those he cares about.
It's also like the conversation scene with Tanya, he may seem pretty harsh towards calling her a kid. But it is war, and I think deep down he does care about her even though he doesn't show it out in the open.
Othlin may not be a deep character by any means, but I think he's a cool guy and I believe he does mean well.
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