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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:28 am


Exxos
They are still coming out of a long period of self-imposed isolation and they do not have a complete infrastructure. I think the reasoning behind it is to bring in foreign funds to help build access up while keeping a kind of bottleneck on outside influence. I mean, if you had to pay $250 per day just to be there, you would definitely have to be someone completely serious about wanting to be there, not just some oblivious goit milling about.


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But one of a country's biggest sources of income can be tourism. By making it impossible for the "average traveler" to afford their fees, they are essentially saying that they don't want their other business. Wouldn't it make more sense to impose a smaller fee per day and charge in slightly higher increments for other necessities of travel rather than in one lump sum per day which will deter someone. If costs are wrapped into other fees, people are less likely to notice and agree to pay.
I guess what I'm getting at is there is a better way to make that $250/day then demanding it up front in a more "tourist friendly" way


You're both right. Part of it is definitely about keeping a bottleneck on outside influences. Keep in mind that Bhutan has never been colonized. Also, it only got television in 1999. So the government is incredibly sensitive on protecting its unique traditional culture, and I think rightly so.

Plus, the tourist fee does actually cover a guide and driver, both of which are necessary to go anywhere.

It does really suck though that the non-rich can't come and visit. I have no idea yet how difficult it will be for my or my (future) kids to come and visit their dad's family. Oh well.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 2:47 am


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They are still coming out of a long period of self-imposed isolation and they do not have a complete infrastructure. I think the reasoning behind it is to bring in foreign funds to help build access up while keeping a kind of bottleneck on outside influence. I mean, if you had to pay $250 per day just to be there, you would definitely have to be someone completely serious about wanting to be there, not just some oblivious goit milling about.


MelodyUnchained
But one of a country's biggest sources of income can be tourism. By making it impossible for the "average traveler" to afford their fees, they are essentially saying that they don't want their other business. Wouldn't it make more sense to impose a smaller fee per day and charge in slightly higher increments for other necessities of travel rather than in one lump sum per day which will deter someone. If costs are wrapped into other fees, people are less likely to notice and agree to pay.
I guess what I'm getting at is there is a better way to make that $250/day then demanding it up front in a more "tourist friendly" way


You're both right. Part of it is definitely about keeping a bottleneck on outside influences. Keep in mind that Bhutan has never been colonized. Also, it only got television in 1999. So the government is incredibly sensitive on protecting its unique traditional culture, and I think rightly so.

Plus, the tourist fee does actually cover a guide and driver, both of which are necessary to go anywhere.

It does really suck though that the non-rich can't come and visit. I have no idea yet how difficult it will be for my or my (future) kids to come and visit their dad's family. Oh well.

Well, in that regard, by the time you have kids and they are old enough to travel there (think about a baby on a trip that long, yeah, they'll probably be closer to 10 years old to stay sane on that trip), they might have had enough integration into the rest of the world that you'll get some sort of family visitation visa type thing that will be like $100 for the first person, $50 for each additional, and just cover getting you to and from family.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 4:44 am


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I just want to say that I love all the people in this guild! If any of us lose touch...I just hope for the best for everyone and that their future is a fruitful one!

I wish we could all get together someday irl and enjoy each other's company in one place...even just for a few days.


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Heh...no, I'm not going anywhere...I was just having a reflective and somber moment. Also just wanted to say that I love everyone here. 4laugh heart
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 6:26 am


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Exxos
They are still coming out of a long period of self-imposed isolation and they do not have a complete infrastructure. I think the reasoning behind it is to bring in foreign funds to help build access up while keeping a kind of bottleneck on outside influence. I mean, if you had to pay $250 per day just to be there, you would definitely have to be someone completely serious about wanting to be there, not just some oblivious goit milling about.


MelodyUnchained
But one of a country's biggest sources of income can be tourism. By making it impossible for the "average traveler" to afford their fees, they are essentially saying that they don't want their other business. Wouldn't it make more sense to impose a smaller fee per day and charge in slightly higher increments for other necessities of travel rather than in one lump sum per day which will deter someone. If costs are wrapped into other fees, people are less likely to notice and agree to pay.
I guess what I'm getting at is there is a better way to make that $250/day then demanding it up front in a more "tourist friendly" way


You're both right. Part of it is definitely about keeping a bottleneck on outside influences. Keep in mind that Bhutan has never been colonized. Also, it only got television in 1999. So the government is incredibly sensitive on protecting its unique traditional culture, and I think rightly so.

Plus, the tourist fee does actually cover a guide and driver, both of which are necessary to go anywhere.

It does really suck though that the non-rich can't come and visit. I have no idea yet how difficult it will be for my or my (future) kids to come and visit their dad's family. Oh well.

Well, in that regard, by the time you have kids and they are old enough to travel there (think about a baby on a trip that long, yeah, they'll probably be closer to 10 years old to stay sane on that trip), they might have had enough integration into the rest of the world that you'll get some sort of family visitation visa type thing that will be like $100 for the first person, $50 for each additional, and just cover getting you to and from family.


Or maybe they will start making concessions for blood family

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 7:05 am


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Gosh, I have such a massive headache right now and it's fully self afflicted. stressed My workplace had a christmast party yesterday. We went to eat in a fancy restaurant and then we went to see a stand up show. It was fun but since I rarely drink anything alcoholic, it doesn't take much to make my head ache. xp

So have you guys got all the presents already? I decided not to buy a lot of presents this year and make the few I get more personal and useful.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:34 am


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Gosh, I have such a massive headache right now and it's fully self afflicted. stressed My workplace had a christmast party yesterday. We went to eat in a fancy restaurant and then we went to see a stand up show. It was fun but since I rarely drink anything alcoholic, it doesn't take much to make my head ache. xp

So have you guys got all the presents already? I decided not to buy a lot of presents this year and make the few I get more personal and useful.

gaia_angelright


i'm almost done. i need to get stocking stuffers and i need to finish sewing my son's snuggie. got my daughter's made. and then i need to put some snaps on some doll clothes i made for a friend's girls. i also have some felt playfood sets i'd like to add a few more things to. just haven't been in the mood to sit and sew.
oh and i'm knitting a sweater for my mom's dog. LOL. she got a new puppy and they've been buying clothes for her. cracked me up so i had to add to the wardrobe.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 8:46 am


Teeshann
i'm almost done. i need to get stocking stuffers and i need to finish sewing my son's snuggie. got my daughter's made. and then i need to put some snaps on some doll clothes i made for a friend's girls. i also have some felt playfood sets i'd like to add a few more things to. just haven't been in the mood to sit and sew.
oh and i'm knitting a sweater for my mom's dog. LOL. she got a new puppy and they've been buying clothes for her. cracked me up so i had to add to the wardrobe.


gaia_nitemareleft


Self made gifts are great! So is your mothers puppy short haired or are the clothes just for decoration? xp I've collected little things for my mother's gift bag (tea, hand made sopa etc.) and to my fiances sister we decided to order her a magazine for a year. I get the same magazine and she's always borrowing them so we decided to order it for her. xd

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:04 am


So today is my nieces B-day.... so before I end up resting for the day, till I go into work tonight.. I went out and bought her a B-Day gift... its from me and her dad. So this is her and her gift! and lets just say, She was so happy when she had seen it!

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:55 am


Now time for a few hallow'd holiday caroling!


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 12:45 pm


Lilygwen
Teeshann
i'm almost done. i need to get stocking stuffers and i need to finish sewing my son's snuggie. got my daughter's made. and then i need to put some snaps on some doll clothes i made for a friend's girls. i also have some felt playfood sets i'd like to add a few more things to. just haven't been in the mood to sit and sew.
oh and i'm knitting a sweater for my mom's dog. LOL. she got a new puppy and they've been buying clothes for her. cracked me up so i had to add to the wardrobe.


gaia_nitemareleft


Self made gifts are great! So is your mothers puppy short haired or are the clothes just for decoration? xp I've collected little things for my mother's gift bag (tea, hand made sopa etc.) and to my fiances sister we decided to order her a magazine for a year. I get the same magazine and she's always borrowing them so we decided to order it for her. xd

gaia_angelright


i love making gifts. just didn't give myself much time this year. i did make a whole doll wardobe for my daughter.
my mom's dog is a miniature snauzer (not sure how to spell it). she's a tiny little thing. and very short haired. they only have a christmas dress and a sweater for when they take her out at night because it's cold.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 3:02 pm


Sammirah
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I just want to say that I love all the people in this guild! If any of us lose touch...I just hope for the best for everyone and that their future is a fruitful one!

I wish we could all get together someday irl and enjoy each other's company in one place...even just for a few days.


Me too!

You're not going anywhere, are you?

awwwww heart Me too!

The extreme cuteness award must go to Soul's adorable niece and her new present. 4laugh

Humble - those songs... I can't decide if I should laugh or go hide somewhere just in case wink dramallama
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:47 pm


Lilygwen
gaia_nitemareleft


Gosh, I have such a massive headache right now and it's fully self afflicted. stressed My workplace had a christmast party yesterday. We went to eat in a fancy restaurant and then we went to see a stand up show. It was fun but since I rarely drink anything alcoholic, it doesn't take much to make my head ache. xp

So have you guys got all the presents already? I decided not to buy a lot of presents this year and make the few I get more personal and useful.

gaia_angelright

Ive bought a few but im making most of mine. just need to find the parts! yikes its getting close!

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2011 10:12 pm


Ive only had one submission to my contest! crying was it a poor idea? If you want give suggestions for my next one.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:25 am


Teeshann
i love making gifts. just didn't give myself much time this year. i did make a whole doll wardobe for my daughter.
my mom's dog is a miniature snauzer (not sure how to spell it). she's a tiny little thing. and very short haired. they only have a christmas dress and a sweater for when they take her out at night because it's cold.


gaia_nitemareleft


Ok, I get the sweater because, like you said, she's short haired but a dress! Now I can't shake a mental image of a little snauzer in a pink fluffy tutu. xd

This caroling is getting ridiculous. I got all 19 but I can't find the santa in the map. I've been looking after him since yesterday. stressed

edit: Finally found him! Yay, got my first item. sweatdrop Oh and morikoarina, I posted a cake in your contests. smile

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2011 8:53 am


morikoarina2
Ive only had one submission to my contest! crying was it a poor idea? If you want give suggestions for my next one.


it's a cute idea. i've been trying to think of something. and then i forget and get busy through the day.
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