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 Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 5:54 pm
snemmy RikoSeryuji Maximum the Zinc Kojineko Norainu Zaiten On a side note.... I JUST STEPPED ON A ******** THUMB TACK! scream
That's not nice. It had feelings. emotion_kirakira
Nor botched his search check. Wouldn't that be a spot check? 4th Edition, it's all under Perception (Wis). cat_cool Nerds. emotion_donotwant
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:16 pm
4th edition is Fail
Me (And Van) only use 3.5 and pathfinder
(And When I feel like it, I bust out the paperback 1st edition, but that's special)
@Koji, you know you would play if I got the books next time you visit. I would totally make Seika in DND
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:32 pm
Norainu Zaiten 4th edition is Fail
Me (And Van) only use 3.5 and pathfinder
(And When I feel like it, I bust out the paperback 1st edition, but that's special)
@Koji, you know you would play if I got the books next time you visit. I would totally make Seika in DND I actually like both 4th and 3.5 edition. I don't really understand why everyone seems to hate it so much. sweatdrop I found it very enjoyable.
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:38 pm
I haven't played 4th myself, but what I've heard about the changes from 3.5 displease me greatly...
Also they got rid of the monk class I hear, that was my favorite class... emo
I find pathfinder much better...
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:41 pm
Haven't played Pathfinder (D&D 3.75) but the Star Wars: Saga Edition (D&D 3.9) is what 4th Edition should have been in my eyes. Nice, clean and streamlined. Not to say 4th is bad but it's quite a departure from the prior systems.
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:42 pm
RikoSeryuji I haven't played 4th myself, but what I've heard about the changes from 3.5 displease me greatly... Also they got rid of the monk class I hear, that was my favorite class... emo I find pathfinder much better... Actually I think that they have the monk class in one of the supplimentary books. I know they revised it. I like a lot of the changes that they made, it emphesizes teamwork now instead of whoever rolls the highest. I think it's a fair system and alot of the stuff is rather interesting and well thought out IMO. Granted, I wouldn't turn down a 3.5 game if it was offered either. Each has it charms to me and its advantages and disadvantages like everything else.
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:44 pm
I mainly don't like it because the game it WAY too easy.
3.5 was balanced, 50-50 in the player and DM'S favor, You could live, but if you do something stupid the Dm could off you fairly easy.
While 4.0 makes it HARD for the DM to kill the player with things made for there level. (Meaning at level 5 your fighting things made for level 8's)
I prefer when its harder to stay alive then it is to die.
Which is why I love when I use my First edition, you get WHOOPED. Sometimes there is no level 2
If i was stuck between 4.0 and nothing, I would still take 4.0 though 3nodding
It's fun just not my cup of tea, I like being paranoid that the DM will try to kill my off in the next room without throwing something too crazy at me.
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:57 pm
I always found that 3.5 got more unbalanced as you went up in level. Mages pretty much dominated while other classes stagnated. The ability that originally made me get into the monk class (quivering palm) was pretty much useless by the time I got it because anything and everything on my level could easily make the save. I remember the Tome of Battle: Book of 9 Swords gave warriors abilities that kicked spells a** at high levels, but you had to be a specific class to use them (Martial Adept classes, which there are 3 of) But all in all I remember at high levels in 3.5 my monk was decidedly useless, she was only actually useful because of a homebrew feat I was allowed to create (one I can't remember exactly now, but it turned me into a DBZ character where I was charging up massive ki blasts for like entire battles...)
Pathfinder was a bit more balanced with classes at higher levels, I believe. However that campaign ended before our levels got too high.
I've heard in 4th ed. pretty much all classes have magic or some kind of magic-like abilities... That I don't like...
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:59 pm
RikoSeryuji I always found that 3.5 got more unbalanced as you went up in level. Mages pretty much dominated while other classes stagnated. The ability that originally made me get into the monk class (quivering palm) was pretty much useless by the time I got it because anything and everything on my level could easily make the save. I remember the Tome of Battle: Book of 9 Swords gave warriors abilities that kicked spells a** at high levels, but you had to be a specific class to use them (Martial Adept classes, which there are 3 of) But all in all I remember at high levels in 3.5 my monk was decidedly useless, she was only actually useful because of a homebrew feat I was allowed to create (one I can't remember exactly now, but it turned me into a DBZ character where I was charging up massive ki blasts for like entire battles...) Pathfinder was a bit more balanced with classes at higher levels, I believe. However that campaign ended before our levels got too high. I've heard in 4th ed. pretty much all classes have magic or some kind of magic-like abilities... That I don't like...
Well then again look at Mage at LOW level. They are the other side of the spectrum, if an ork looks at them funny they might keel over
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:35 pm
RikoSeryuji I've heard in 4th ed. pretty much all classes have magic or some kind of magic-like abilities... That I don't like... It's a bit more that you have differing abilities that DO things each round instead of just saying "I hit it with my axe". Now you can use an ability and you hit with your axe AND you can push pull the target 1-2 squares as desired. Makes things a bit more tactical.
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 9:33 pm
I play almost everything EXCEPT 4th Edition. Its a board game, if I wanted to play a board game I'd play Pokemon Monopoly. 3.5, Pathfinder, D20 Modern, Besm, GERPs, EVERYTHING is better than 4th. Barbarian and Bard-barian all the way.
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:05 pm
Maximum the Zinc I play almost everything EXCEPT 4th Edition. Its a board game, if I wanted to play a board game I'd play Pokemon Monopoly. 3.5, Pathfinder, D20 Modern, Besm, GERPs, EVERYTHING is better than 4th. Barbarian and Bard-barian all the way. Nah, 4th Ed is still better than old White Wolf Street Fighter. Though I still had a lot of fun times with my guy who nearly became a World Warrior before getting stuck down in a slime chute in the Amazon. (We never picked it back up after that.) cat_gonk The reliance upon miniatures and exact positioning in 4th was a little aggravating. Wizards needs to remember 90's TSR and their pewter figures. They don't sell that well. Luckily I still have most of the figures from my old Heroe's Quest game. I've been killing the same goblins for nigh on 26 years now. cat_rofl
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:33 pm
Yeaaaah...I have no clue what you guys are yammering on about.
I've never played this DND you speak of. I was more of a Pokemon fan...
I mean..I've heard of the game, and even the mmorpg that game out, but I refuse to play it, 'cause of the stories my sis tells' me about it.
Like that time she made a Pixie named Snaffle....who touched people and made them dance for hours, then polymorphed a dragon into a bunny and used it as a mount. Of course the dragon was dead...but she revived it. xd
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 10:48 pm
Well then again thats HER.
I think she could taint anything
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Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:04 pm
My friends have stories about a dragon named Biscuits (that was quite low on the Int score, if you catch my meaning) whose claws leaked butter...
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