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 Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:14 am
I did not know that you had abandoned the clan because of an exchange between you and Van, I thought you just thought of another character that you liked more or something. So, I do appologise again for calling you hypocritical, if I had known that there would be little hope for the Jashin clan than I would have thought up another character. As for Vans statements, I really didn't get the assumption from him that it was clans and only clans, when I was talking to Cylem about character creations she did mention that abandoning the clans was something that could happen with a lot of effort, so the bringing together of those renegades and traitors and making a cult based on them didn't really seem like it was taboo in any way, and as far as I was under the impression, the concept of the Jashin Cult wasn't frown upon, it just didn't have much interest.
I appologise again for snapping in my above post, now that I know what is going on a little better I don't feel as frustrated -disappointed maybe- but not as frustrated as I once was. I just wish that someone would have told me that the Jashin Cult was abandoned for a reason. sweatdrop I guess this means that I'm going to have to start to try and come up with some character concepts again. I might be a while thinking up another character.
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:49 pm
Oh, jeeze, I'm SO sorry, guys.
Thanks for defending me, Zinc, but I totally deserved that. I shouldn't have held off on dropping the Jashin cult for so long. I really did want to lead it, which was why I was so hesitant, but between camping and then immediately going off to school, it completely slipped my mind. Now that school's gotten so intense, I know for a fact I can't do it.
And now that the next season is right around the corner, I feel like a huge douche. I'm really sorry. Is there something I can do to make it up to you guys?
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 4:29 pm
Well... I need some huge help thinking up another character. crying But I get the feeling that this isn't something that you could help me with or would have time for. I just can't... find any sort of muse or insperation for a character concept, I'm hoping once I get that I can place the character into a clan because... to be honest, none of them really interest or call out to me in anyway.
I'm also a little concerned about Jeff and ShadowWolf, though I sent them pms and let them know that Jashin is a no-go anymore so we'll have to see what they do.
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:06 pm
And therein lies the rub.
I was reading over Angra's app from when you sent me a rough layout of his character a billion years ago to see if there was anything to be salvaged, but his design is too solid to really translate to any of the premade clans. I hope things pick up enough around here that he can have some screentime. I will honestly try to incorporate the Jashin cult later in the season, but I can't do full-time with two clans.
As far as inspiration goes, I use Seventh Sanctum, the random page button on the Superpower Wiki and the Homestuck Random Lands Generator to get ideas.
While the last one is a bit incomprehensible if you don't read Homestuck, it gives a lot of symbolism in the form of titles, lands and instant messenger usernames to attach to characters to help flesh them out, as well as a weird weapon. Sometimes it's fun to try and translate the things it cranks out to different universes.
I also find it's helpful to design characters around either specific types of jutsu or signature attacks or juxtaposing concepts. (A character that only uses defensive jutsu, or a person who is obsessed with order but also hopelessly scatterbrained.)
It's also a lot easier to come up with characters if you're trying to fill a specific position, like explore a certain archetype or how a clan would handle a shinobi with a particular set of skills/flaws/personality quirks.
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:20 pm
I wish that there was some way that I could run the clan while you got settled in with things. I had/could have create a Jounin to lead the group, think up missions to execute and then lead them if neccesary while working with other members of the Crew. But I have a very hard time seeing Van give the thumbs up for something like that. I don't mind pulling more weight than I would normally have to in order to make something work. Its a shame, really, the cult could have been a really interesting 'villain clan' for the others to untie to disband.
I hate to rub it in, but I'm really disappointed to not be able to play Angra, and I was also trying to think of another way to bring him into a premade, but really, it's impossible for him to be in a functioning society and still be the creation I put together...
He was going to be so fun too. Apparently Jeff had a really great idea too, but he said that he said he understood something like this might happen.
I've actually been on Seventh Sanctum and Superwiki a number of times today and neither did anything for me.
The other idea I was starting to form was having a character that did nothing but 'boost' abilities physical prowless for other characters (ie- Memba's sound jutsu) but I wasn't sure what that would be... Genjutsu, maybe? Is it possible for genjutsu to actually affect the body in such a way that it gets... stronger and better? What would be the best way to pull that off? Focus type? Specific ninja type? Other than having the personality of a styrofoam cup its the closest thing I have to anything of a functioning character concept.
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:36 pm
Ugh, I know... I thought the dynamic between Angra and Katori would be really interesting to observe.
I really think the guild could use more crew members. My roommate even suggested outside hires, which is starting to sound mighty tempting, since I honestly believe things will really pick up around here once we reopen the guild.
As far as a "buffing" character goes, that was sort of what I attempted with Shuniji when I first made him. It was his one, custom jutsu, Electric War Cry, which allowed him to send chakra to allies, but you could definitely pull off a similar effect in a number of ways!
For example, it could be a genjutsu that's inflicted on teammates to trick their minds into suppressing feelings of pain and exhaustion, or even a ninjutsu that involves altering the chakra pathways into working overtime. It would be both a valuable asset in a fight, but also extremely detrimental in the long run. I think it could be cool to explore the moral quandary behind intentionally damaging your allies for the sake of victory in battle.
The jutsu itself could be tweaked to apply to any clan. I think the Senju and Uzumaki would be more guarded about using such techniques, while the Hyuga and Uchiha would be more okay with working their people to exhaustion.
Hell, it sounds like with a little more development, it could become a sort of precursor to the Eight Gates. (If it were turned inward instead of pushed onto other people--perhaps after accidentally overworking a close friend?)
I dunno if any of this sounds remotely appealing. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:43 pm
I think though... If you really wanted the Jashin cult and were willing to do the legwork as far as running it--missions and the like--I'd love to set up the forum and play Katori.
I'm not really sure if that's a worthwhile compromise... But I don't see why we wouldn't be able to do that.
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:45 pm
Yeah, that was something along my mindset for what the character would do, though I think that the character would also be a double edge sword in the way that they would need to be babysat in battle to allow the full extent of the jutsu, I actually thought that the Uchiha would be against something like that, but I'll explore the idea and play around with the personality of the character and how such jutsu would work. I think it would be something that would interest me for playing a character. Its just a matter of creating something that will be approve and deciding on a clan that would be up for all that. sweatdrop
Well, I may not know much about the functions of Naruto, but if you do decide to do something like outside hires then let me know and I'll do what I can to help out around here. 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:48 pm
seekingCylem I think though... If you really wanted the Jashin cult and were willing to do the legwork as far as running it--missions and the like--I'd love to set up the forum and play Katori.
I'm not really sure if that's a worthwhile compromise... But I don't see why we wouldn't be able to do that. Hey, I've already made up a lot of the cult so I have no problem doing that much more for it. NPC's, additional characters and Mission idea's and execution are all fine with me. I have no problems helping out in that way. It's more Van that I'm worried about and having him come down on me for something like that. sweatdrop But if you think it will be alright then I certainly don't mind doing most of the leg work for you while you go and get more settled in at school and what not. 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:52 pm
Razsminion seekingCylem I think though... If you really wanted the Jashin cult and were willing to do the legwork as far as running it--missions and the like--I'd love to set up the forum and play Katori.
I'm not really sure if that's a worthwhile compromise... But I don't see why we wouldn't be able to do that. Hey, I've already made up a lot of the cult so I have no problem doing that much more for it. NPC's, additional characters and Mission idea's and execution are all fine with me. I have no problems helping out in that way. It's more Van that I'm worried about and having him come down on me for something like that. sweatdrop But if you think it will be alright then I certainly don't mind doing most of the leg work for you while you go and get more settled in at school and what not. 3nodding Really??
Augh, I feel like I'm being so contrary lately, but yeah, I wouldn't mind doing this!
I'll try to tone down the flighty broad behavior in the future.
If Van takes issue with this, he can log on and talk to me about it himself. 3nodding
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:59 pm
I don't see why not. I already have some personalities in mind for the Shadow Council, and I have some morale boosting mission in mind that we can do, not to mention alot of other 'planting the seeds of corruption' is something that would be characterful, I'm sure if we put our heads together from time to time I could riffle out some missions and make sure they are challanging enough to test the players and have them feel rewarded afterwards. This weekend if your not busy we could brainstorm some idea's and I can get to work on them.
So... do we have an accord?
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:10 pm
Sounds good to me!
Tomorrow I've got a lot of homework to get done, but I should be near the computer all day. As for the future, I should hopefully be around in the evenings around seven or eight.
I'll be putting my NPCs before my main character so hopefully things will run smoothly for the Hyuga as well.
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:15 pm
For the record I made some links to individual clans on the Clans page since I foresee this thing getting ridiculously long in the future.
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:59 pm
Indeed, thanks for the great work Cylem
Also, Any and all crew willing to Run a self made clan when they pop up, send me a Pm please, so that I can forward People who are looking to make a clan to one of you.
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Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2011 12:56 am
Okay, the Hyuga Territory and Jashinist Chapel have their threads set up. Time for bed!
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