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 Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:15 pm
Theres nothing to review, cziri. You seem to think that you know how my field works without listening to my explainations and then simply decide that you can overpower it just because you have a better aura. You never listen to what I have to say, and simply go out and post based on what you think my abilities and technologies do because thats how it would work best for you. When I explain it AGAIN, you b***h at me for changing how it works and creating disagreements despite the fact I've told you how my s**t works ten times. The only disagreement you have is between your view of my abilities the way you want them to work and how they actually work.
Do you even understand what the word resonance (******** my spelling. >.<) means? Being resonant means to echo or to rebound. Resonance implies the alteration of the amplitude of an oscillation of a system under the influence of a periodic force. You strike a gong and it resonantes, producing a sound. You strike it harder it creates more sound. Your problem is that you think that if you strike the gong hard enough it'll stop making a sound.
Stop telling me what my characters do. Stop creating explainations in place of the ones I give you. Stop being an ignorant ******** and appologize for not posting because of your stubborn a** attitude and I'll open it again.
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:52 pm
There is some stuff to review. You only explained the field once to me, and using YOUR description of YOUR own field and HOW YOU described it to work, I counted it accordingly. You are the one doing what you are condemning me of performing. When did I b***h at you, hm?
You described it differently than so, you know, but yes, I understand that. That's not what I was doing, I was not striking the gong, I was countering the waves of "resonance" with other waves, which, if you think about it, you can deafen out the noise of the gong with something loud, say a rocket engine or even a loud radio. The fact is, that parts of your resonance field and my aura were destroyed by the neutral energy; as in, your field was highly modified by the creation of natural waves, while mine was simply set back a little. Besides, if the resonance field doesn't have the power to incite such an effect onto my aura or that space, it will fail. The resonance field has to be fed by your own energies or will to be able to do work, and the fact of the matter is, it would be quicker to directly occupy the space where a little void was created with pure energy rather than trying to force an effect like that into a temporary void. You would have to use mana to force the resonance field into the area of a temporary void, but you didn't. As your own waves of resonance were countered and drowned-out, they did not take back their own ground.
Hah, don't abuse your powers. I'm not going to apologize, I was waiting for the thread to be reviewed. You are the one that decided to close the thread when I specifically asked for it to be reviewed.
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:25 pm
You asked for it to be reviewed, I told you no, and then I didn't hear from you for three and a half days. How is that not your fault? Hell, you hadn't even signed in for four days at the time I locked it. I checked your profile.
As for the ressonance field, you claim you're not 'striking the gong,' but then you turn around and tell me you did. You are doing the work of fueling the ressonance field by throwing energy, aura, and waves at it. You fill the temporary voids with energy and that energy reacts with the ressonance field and increases its effectiveness. You're not overpowering it, you're just hitting it harder and making it ressonate with greater intensity. You seem to think that Vini just tossed the ressonance field out there and let it do its own thing. How, then, can it exist longer than a half moment if something is not inducing the effect?
This neutral energy you've been discussing has shown no signs of being static nor has it displayed the property of not having a frequency. Such signs would indicate that the energy has inability to change, but would also mean it could not be factored into the equation because it would similarly be unable to alter anything in turn. In short, it either exists and helps Vini or doesn't exist and doesn't matter.
Again, you're telling me how my abilities work and using something against it improperly to shut it down how you think it should be shut down. Right...
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:57 pm
You can't tell me no. Simple as that. I will get the god-damn reviewing I asked for. I don't feel arguing with you because it makes no difference into your damn dense skull. I had not logged on, however, I was observing to see if my call had been answered, but it had not been. You never said no to me, anyways, jackass.
The resonance field has to have some means of will or supernatural force to exhibit such an effect anyways, so alas, it is draining and does need some sort of power from you. I am not throwing energy at it, I am putting energy into the space, denying the effect from the area. Besides, you never really explained how the resonance field works, you just said what it does, and still not enough to what it even does.
If I filled the temporary voids with MY energy, don't you think that you can't control an area you don't have access to. The neutral energy is different from the beast's energy, which I had stated had started a counter-mechanism to the resonance field. The neutral energy was a slight explosion caused by the conflicting fields and the conflicting manaburn and mana; if it was caused by the conflicting fields, it would destroy parts of the field as well as spread the distortion into the resonance field itself. Echoes are fun things, that is if they are not disrupted or blocked out. Besides, you also made the resonance field just look like a conversion field.
I said the neutral energy that was produced had wavelengths, yes, all matter essentially exhibits that property. However, they were directed towards the resonance field's wavelengths in an attempt to block them out or negate the resonance field. However, you're too cocky to even admit any wrongdoing, and I'm too stubborn to let you intimidate me from not winning. That is WHY I am asking for a mod. YOU HAVE NO ******** RIGHT TO DENY ME A REVIEW.
Again, you're not EXPLAINING s**t. You're MAKING ALL YOUR ABILITIES SOMEHOW HAVE SOME SORT OF ******** SUPERIORITY TO ALL OF MY ABILITIES. YOU'RE NOT EXPLAINING s**t IN CHARACTER REALLY SO IT DOESN'T REALLY ******** MATTER. I HAVE NOTHING TO WORK WITH YOU REALLY AND THEREFORE MY ******** CHARACTER. MY CHARACTER IS WORKING WITH WHATEVER WAS EXPLAINED TO IT.
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:15 pm
You must be blind if you didn't notice me telling you no on AIM and MSN when you felt the need to not respond. I'll pull up the chat logs if you so desire.
No, the resonance field does not need supernatural force or willpower. Its called he's a <********> ROBOT. How can you not have realized that there is no supernatural force behind it because he is not using any supernatural force but the essense of science and technology? Have you even been reading our fight as you post replies to it? His armor is resonating. Resonance Field. Vibrational effects. How many times do I need to say it befopre you understand it? English b***h, do you speak it?
Yes, you filled the area around Vini with your energy. Thats all well and good, aside from the fact that doing so generates a resonance. Excess energy produced by the clash of mana burn and mana would still be energy and would still resonate. The conflict resonates. The aura resonates. Hell, even the wind causes him to resonate.
See, this is where you went wrong. You attempted to produce something to counter a reactive effect. A counter to an echo is the original effect. So if you are countering the counter you're just generating more aura and thus giving more to echo off of. I denied you a review because you had no grounds to ask for one. Your grounds were based entirely on the fact that you were trying to deny my character's abilities with ideas you generated after not listening to me. You're still not listening to me. I admit, you're stubborn, but that also means you're too stubborn to admit that you're NOT creating this disagreement just to get your way.
I'm not claiming a superiority to your abilities, I'm claiming that you aren't providing a counter to the field and that when it didn't work you decided to have everyone else come and take a look. And you're right, I'm not explaining it in full in the thread because I've been explaining it the whole god damned time outside the thread so the fight isn't filled with essay length posts. My posts are hard enough to read as it is, I don't want to shove three extra paragraphs in when I could just give you the run down on AIM or MSN like I've been doing.
Suck it up, start listening, and ******** post.
Oh, LAWL, I CAN TYPE IN CAPS TOO.
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:57 pm
[Jello]: I think you're probably one of two people who'd commented on the subject who actually realize how spars go down here. Friend of mine that wanted to join Barton but was a little late was peeking over things here, and basically went, ".. Those are.. spars?". XD
[Snow]: Nah, I understand; just, my character wasn't flat-out told this. He can't be sure if Snow or his 'inner-being' are dominant currently - or both - but any way you slice it, he's growing unpleased and damned quick. =P Still, this should be fun.
I think for my next post, I'll pull something I recently used in a more elaborate manner. Very recently.
[OKAAAAY, ON VINI COMPLETED vs. BANG~BAMG~ZERA:]
I've been asked to take my crack at this; already, I'll admit, my head is aching just at peering the match over. So it's possible I've made a mistake or two, but~ This is how I call it.
Alright, so we have 'ol Toad'o'Death [I've fought him myself before, though that never got too far] facing off with Vini Completed. Now, the first two major posts of the match basically described the two entering - their assets, their features. We can agree on this, I would hope to God.
[Third post]: by Tacitus, had his character analyzing Cziri's. Life sign read outs, assorted statistics, whole nine yards of that ilk. Then, a nanopistol was revealed; drawing in mana, since Vini is a lovely combination of steel and mana-based principles - the pistol fired off three rounds at Bang~Bamg's revealed head, with powerful as Hell velocity. Rail gun velocity backing a pistol is nothing to be toyed with; and thanks to the "Magebane" properties of the ammunition, just deflecting the rounds with 'Magi' would prove useless.
[Fourth Post]: Cziri's. Now, one of his parrots or 'scouts' as I like to call them, seems to have some kind of odd.. scanning mechanism it can utilize, read in colors. The scout informed the Toad, basically, that the pistol Vini was firing utilized magnetic accelerator technology.
So, apparently, this gives Cziri's character the foresight for some kind of alchemical sequence that produced an 'energy', partially nulling the Magibane rounds fired by Vini.
So, this energy produced apparently powers up some kind of electromagnetic field, which was than forced into a unique shape: two strips of extremely high polarity, which start three feet behind Bang~Bamg's head, and come 20 feet ahead. They're both angled, not straight lines - so the idea, I suppose, is to match the rounds' polarity, guide Vini's rounds along the strips' paths, and cause them to go off-course, "barely" missing the beast entirely. [I wish the exact distance between the two strips was specified from beginning to end, that'd make things more clear.]
So, 20 feet [right where the two strips ended], another "alchemical maneuver" - creating a concentrated fluid of sorts, which intends to put pressure on the rounds before they'd ever even reach Bang~Bamg, thus slowing their thrust towards he significantly, improving the chances of the three rounds failing.
So, we're still unsure if the three shots hit the beast or not. It's possible they did, possible they didn't, judging by what's occurred so far. But, the tortoises' arms decide not to wait either way: Firing a series of small chi blasts [Spirit Guns? I thought that's why Yusuke invented the Spirit Shotgun. domokun ]
Andd, amidst all this Chaos, the Tortoise manages to wrap a tongue around Scout #2 [Fiery Parrot] - before rapidly extending towards the robot like a whip, apparently bypassing his own pressured wall and hopefully after the three rounds fired by Vini are depleted or contested to. Otherwise, Bang~Bamg would be firing his tongue in a rapid whip-motion right into the general course of the three mana rounds before they could be bent along the two strips of polarity. O_o;
[Fifth Post]: Tacitus. He states the beast couldn't 100% analyze the weapon type employed; thus, the creature could not determine the exact magnetic field these rounds contained, and therefore, the defense Bang~Bamg used was impossible.
However, the pressure wall seems to still be possible; and thus, the three rounds still sail towards Cziri inbound. Intent to strike him with a possibly lessened impact, but likely, no "curved trajectory" - for the "strips of polarity" would be all but useless.
However, Vini turns his attention to Scout #2, and decided.. he would gun it down with three rounds. A wise choice, as it'd cut the Tortoises' attack down before it could ever be implemented; plus, these shots, I assume, are of the same nature as the first ones; Magibane.
The small chi blasts are smothered into non-existence by Vini's armor.
[Sixth Post]: Cziri. Cziri goes on to explain how in fact, he would be able to determine the basis of the rounds having magnetic capabilities - which, to an extent, I agree with - though his examples are plasma & steel. Vini's rounds were, again, unconventional; therefore, it's not entirely guaranteed, even by Cziri's own post that admitted the three rounds could still hit him, they were nulled. However, their exact impact if any, is still left hanging in the air.
BUT! Anywho~ Scout #2 giggles, because yeah, he wasn't on course with Vini - kind of an odd distraction. Almost like a Kamikaze bombing, except.. without the.. actually-harming-the-opponent part. Point is: Although it's not stated, judging by the line,
"The bird laughed within its mind even to face the punishment,"
We can assume it was torn asunder. Cziri states accuracy & precision would be an issue - however, if Vini is able to target the general area of a beast's head from some 250 yards away, and since in this case, no real resistance is given for Scout #2 - I assume the shots did, in fact, strike the bird and ace it, if not wound it something fierce, by striking it in general.
However, that's a mute point; for the tongue itself is right on par. The chi shots are apparently inside Vini's internal wiring..? Not going to touch that yet. If at all, I need to see where that goes if anywhere. =P
So, Again: The tongue. It swings out with a monstrous reach, and apparently, it too has some sort of Alchemic ability; the tip transforming into a blade. Kind of like a bizarre front-faced scythe, actually.. the "juice" as it's referred to is apparently building along the "tongue", acid splashes outward, dabbing the pistol, etching onto Vini's body in general. The tongue than proceeds to perform a large number of damaging attacks - assuming the Acid did it's purpose.
However.
The nanopistol, as we'll recall, is in a holster of ilks at Vini's leg [wasn't specified which; but that honestly doesn't matter, as Cziri's tongue didn't have a specified side it gunned for initially, either.] The rounds fired right from Vini's "holster"; I doubt a sudden lash from a whip would, precisely, douse the -exact- location the gun resided with acid.
I agree this attack should damage Vini, but I don't agree on the extent. Too much in too little time; too many factors and variables are assumed. So far, we're unsure of what properties Vini's body is capable of - and what close quarter defenses it may have once the lounge reached it.
Regardless: We travel onto, the next post. Although a number of questions are now in the air. Big ones. Ones that may be answered as I read on in the topic - or.. they.. may never be gotten to, ever.
"What can Vini withstand?"
"The acid is described as potent - but just HOW potent? What is it's chemical make-up, pretell?"
"Did the first three mana rounds ever actually do anything to Bang~Bamg~Zera?"
"Are or aren't the two Polarized Strips existing, yes or no?"
"IS SCOUT #2 KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN OR WERE HIS WINGS JUST CLIPPED!?"
We now continue onto post #7.
[Seventh Post]: Tacitus. Few OOC comments regarding the Magnetic Resonance System, and a comment clarifying distance which I have no reason to disbelieve, since it's the distance I've assumed the two've been at thus far, myself.
SO! INTO THE ACTUAL POST: Tacitus states that the chi blasts could not effect his innards, because they never got the chance to enter him. They were warded off at the exterior; I can see where that's going, actually.
Now, I agree, Cziri over-estimated his damage capabilities in that instance like Hell. However, in an opposite display, Tacitus, a tongue with a bladed tip at the velocity I'm thinking it was coming in at, wouldn't just "bounce off". It'd scrape along Vini's exterior if nothing else, if the tip was lashing forward like a whip - which is what Cziri described.
Even if no immediate damage was dealt, the scraping would actually work in favor of Vini - slowing the inevitable retraction long enough, Vini's left hand could realistically grab the tongue. However: while the likelihood of some of this thus-far-undescribed "acid" splashing about actually damaging a character like Vini is low..
..Holding the tongue producing it would give Vini's hand a condensed exposure. Once the mana was channeled down the line, I could see this not being an issue; but the time until that, I would assume, Vini's hand [the one grasping the tongue] would have a slight bit of damage, at the least. Since the material in question is very resistant on a molecular level, it wouldn't melt - but the exterior could still be weakened by certain types of acid.
I wish the acid's properties were better explained. ;-;
REGARDLESS: 18 second analysis, the speed of a super computer, mana decryption.. basically, if I can make a basic synopsis: Vini was taking in our good 'ol friend "mana" in an unstable decree, manifesting it into something usable, than returning it right back into the tortoise. Using the tongue as a highway of sorts.
My own opinion: But if the tongue can expand and create a bladed tip, I'd say the logical means of countering this would be to merely expel the tongue. Purposely sever his own tongue by some "alchemical" means; it'd make the most rational sense, given the situation..
[And this is where things go to Hell. Posts from this point onward have OOC elements mentioned IC, random-a** insults, and whole paragraphs of, "NO! I'M RIGHT!", followed by, "NO! YOU'RE WRONG! [Continues to post as though his respective opinion was correct.]"]
I can't continue judging the match based on this. Just in the first few posts, there are so many vagueties, so many things left to the imagination, that taking it's repercussions later in the match to a literal translation would be disastrous - and that's exactly what's happened. =P
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[Summary]: I believe, you two have been too impatient to get to the next action in this match, to pave the way for said actions first. Too many important details left to the breeze. Too many vague elements that are important to define.
I believe that Vini should have, realistically, taken some minor damage as a result of Cziri's attacks; not so much due to the acid element, but rather because Cziri had one post describing the impending attack, and it wasn't dealt with. Therefore, it should have, however minor, some impact. As much as a small impact.
I do not believe, Cziri, you had a legit means of deciphering the elements of Vini's first three rounds to a point where you could outright disregard them. I believe they should have struck you. I doubt all three could hit dead on in the same spot; and given the liquid you conjured in the air, I would assume the three Magibane rounds would go through that, lessen in impact, manage to strike you in the rough areas about your shell where your head is concentrated at.
Two very vague elements, would be: Exactly what Vini's armor is [at least in the posts dealing with the acid themselves,] and what properties the acid holds. All I know about the acid from that topic, is that it's acid. And it's very very bad. Bad enough, Bang~Bamg~Zera takes safety measures. But that doesn't help me determine what it's impact would be on Vini, if any relevant.
The chi blasts, I believe, should have struck with a concussive force rather than try to assimilate through Vini's armor; that just leads to issues, frankly.
And, and, and...
[My Verdict]: Guys, you've made but a few posts and you're already to the point of OOC arguing, finger pointing at "power abuse", topic locking/opening..
I personally believe, we should take the simplest of actions that can appease both parties. That would be, a light "rewind" for the entire match.
We will have Cziri's character in place where he was when he entered the arena. We will have Vini's character in place where he entered the arena.
Vini will have light damage - I say, the acid would give way for the otherwise pointless tongue blade to actually give a very light exterior gash around the torso, as well as that specific pistol being out of commission. Bang~Bamg~Zera will have damage in the form of Scout #2 being out of commission, and very slight wounding about the shell surrounding his head.
The tongue will have retracted just before the hand tried to seize it - in return, the tongue will not have severed, cut into, or torn apart Vini's character.
You two can continue from that basic point, civilly, trying to continue the match to the best of your abilities so this situation can be avoided in the future, although I can't guarantee it won't repeat itself in the next 3-5 posts, at this rate. I advise not applying how your character operates to your opponents' means, and instead, performing actions in the most universally-accepted manner you can think of. Most importantly: don't be hasty, let the match progress at whatever pace it comes to. Performing 3,000 assaults in one post and assuming the opponent can't counter at any point during them is rubbish.
Cziri will post first, seeing as he is the one being asked to post next regardless.
This is my opinion.
Again: I myself may have flaws in my analysis. However, this is the best way I can think of to make the whole playing field level again, and let the match progress with the lowest chance of more problems ensuing.
That's all I can suggest. The situation is Hell in & of itself, just reading through; but again, this is the best solution I can come up with.
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:48 pm
For reference for those watching at home, he's a mini spellcasting gundam (with appropriate armor enhanced through technowizardry). That sums up Vini Compleated. XD
*Glances to Cziri* 72 hours from Omi's post. If you haven't made one by then, don't blame me when you get a time based DQ.
Oh, and Omi....that was long as hell. XD
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:36 pm
So if all is agreed? Could the 'correct as of explanation' post be found and possibly the rest deleted with the next post containing Omi's quote for organization's sake?
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 11:22 pm
Dreslin....why do you care?
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 2:31 am
Heh, I was mentioned in that long post. xd And yeah, that's practically what the Shotgun technique is, only it also allows for covering of greater range. Thought I should add my fanboy comment and all.
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:51 am
Touche' Jello, touche'
And Omi made a review of a match without making many amusing and somewhat comical remarks. Oh dear, what is the world coming to.
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:32 pm
Lethal spars are amusing, and stupid.
Also, unfortunately unaviodable. Considering no one ever gets tired or is hurt by anything unless it's sharp or blowing a massive crater into the ground. Of course, everyone is all superpowered anyhow, so that all is to be expected, 's'all fair, right?
Right?
Too many people fight like they've got something to prove. Everyone equating character with self. Alternatingly makes me laugh or annoys me. I make characters who fight a specific way, and have specific training and knowledge, and a specific amount of skill at what they do- thus even if I can see what I'd like to do, if it's not something they're capable of and inclined toward, they're not likely to do it.
Rivven is my one who comes closest to doing anything I think of. He's pretty near top notch.
Alchert is my only other character here, and he's basically an animal, so that's what he fights like.
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:38 pm
[Tacitus]: Maybe, maybe~ But I got it done in half an hour, so all's good says Omi. :Flex:
.. AND A GUNDAM!? IS IT LIKE.. A SUPER-MAGICAL WHITE DINGO SNIPER CUSTOM II!?
[Vincent]: I was asked to give a judging on it, so I tried to do so objectively. Even though the Gundam part makes me want to retype it. domokun
[Mooo]: Posted.
[Snow]: Post..ing. Uhg man, that is a lot of weapons. ;-; 'Course, again, the most rational thing to do would beeeee.. [Cracks fingers.]
[Yusuke]: I've always wondered: I've seen you, Genkai, and Kurama around here.. WHERE THE HELL'S KUWABARA!?
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Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:30 pm
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