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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 10:18 am
Yeah that seems a little far fetched, would the lava torch the wood in like a second
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 10:20 am
Fireball-Kun A puppet made from wood, living in lava? o.O not all puppets are made from wood... they can be made of almost anything, humans, animals, golden dragons, ect ect RyūKaze and Ryūjin are made from the same golden dragon that once lived in lava and shoots large streams of fire from its mouth. RyūKaze is the combination of my main puppet and Ryūjin. Ryūjin = Dragon god (literal translation) btw i gtg pick up my neice so ill brb edited:
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:12 am
e.e Er, I'm not 100% sure on how that would play out. Wood + Lava = BURN
I don't think the spirit would affect the body...BUT, thats an argument for another day.
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:24 am
Fireball-Kun e.e Er, I'm not 100% sure on how that would play out. Wood + Lava = BURN I don't think the spirit would affect the body...BUT, thats an argument for another day. Ok well maybe not burn, but based on what i have seen lava do it does cause fires on things around it that it hasn't covered. This is just a guess here, but based on the extreme heat, bonding properties, and overall composition of lava I would venture a guess that if lava was to be thrown onto a piece of wood it would go straight through the wood like a highy acidic acid. here's why i say this. The extreme heat of the lava would be so intense that it not only separate the atomic structure of the wood bt practically super charge the bonds and vaporize the wood on the spot. Of course then he have to look at the speed of the lava and surface tension of the lava because the top of lava run off is instantly being cooled by the air giving it a very thick top layer while the inner core is all liquid much like a burning marshmallow. This is why we see that rippling effect in places that have had lava run off. The top layer is moving slower then the bottom so the bottom layer will simply spill through and continue and the cycle goes on and one, but I digress. The point is that if wood were to simply be placed in the way of lava run off it would be burned by the hardening top layer then covered by the lava, but if the lava were to be thrown at the wood still in it's pure liquid viscosity it would vaporize the wood.
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:26 am
KogaFuma Fireball-Kun e.e Er, I'm not 100% sure on how that would play out. Wood + Lava = BURN I don't think the spirit would affect the body...BUT, thats an argument for another day. Ok well maybe not burn, but based on what i have seen lava do it does cause fires on things around it that it hasn't covered. This is just a guess here, but based on the extreme heat, bonding properties, and overall composition of lava I would venture a guess that if lava was to be thrown onto a piece of wood it would go straight through the wood like a highy acidic acid. here's why i say this. The extreme heat of the lava would be so intense that it not only separate the atomic structure of the wood bt practically super charge the bonds and vaporize the wood on the spot. Of course then he have to look at the speed of the lava and surface tension of the lava because the top of lava run off is instantly being cooled by the air giving it a very thick top layer while the inner core is all liquid much like a burning marshmallow. This is why we see that rippling effect in places that have had lava run off. The top layer is moving slower then the bottom so the bottom layer will simply spill through and continue and the cycle goes on and one, but I digress. The point is that if wood were to simply be placed in the way of lava run off it would be burned by the hardening top layer then covered by the lava, but if the lava were to be thrown at the wood still in it's pure liquid viscosity it would vaporize the wood. Thing is, the Yonbi's lava dosen't cool off unless cooled off by the Yonbi/Host or an S rank water jutsu. So Air would actually have no major effect in it.
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:29 am
Fireball-Kun KogaFuma Fireball-Kun e.e Er, I'm not 100% sure on how that would play out. Wood + Lava = BURN I don't think the spirit would affect the body...BUT, thats an argument for another day. Ok well maybe not burn, but based on what i have seen lava do it does cause fires on things around it that it hasn't covered. This is just a guess here, but based on the extreme heat, bonding properties, and overall composition of lava I would venture a guess that if lava was to be thrown onto a piece of wood it would go straight through the wood like a highy acidic acid. here's why i say this. The extreme heat of the lava would be so intense that it not only separate the atomic structure of the wood bt practically super charge the bonds and vaporize the wood on the spot. Of course then he have to look at the speed of the lava and surface tension of the lava because the top of lava run off is instantly being cooled by the air giving it a very thick top layer while the inner core is all liquid much like a burning marshmallow. This is why we see that rippling effect in places that have had lava run off. The top layer is moving slower then the bottom so the bottom layer will simply spill through and continue and the cycle goes on and one, but I digress. The point is that if wood were to simply be placed in the way of lava run off it would be burned by the hardening top layer then covered by the lava, but if the lava were to be thrown at the wood still in it's pure liquid viscosity it would vaporize the wood. Thing is, the Yonbi's lava dosen't cool off unless cooled off by the Yonbi/Host or an S rank water jutsu. So Air would actually have no major effect in it. So then it would still be in it's liquid viscosity and he super heated thus going straight through the wood as it would air. But i must backtrack to what Orchid had said. Her Golden dragon puppet Ryujin is physically the golden dragon not the spirit she created the puppet from the actual physical form of the dragon and that's why it can withstand lava.
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:33 am
KogaFuma Fireball-Kun KogaFuma Fireball-Kun e.e Er, I'm not 100% sure on how that would play out. Wood + Lava = BURN I don't think the spirit would affect the body...BUT, thats an argument for another day. Ok well maybe not burn, but based on what i have seen lava do it does cause fires on things around it that it hasn't covered. This is just a guess here, but based on the extreme heat, bonding properties, and overall composition of lava I would venture a guess that if lava was to be thrown onto a piece of wood it would go straight through the wood like a highy acidic acid. here's why i say this. The extreme heat of the lava would be so intense that it not only separate the atomic structure of the wood bt practically super charge the bonds and vaporize the wood on the spot. Of course then he have to look at the speed of the lava and surface tension of the lava because the top of lava run off is instantly being cooled by the air giving it a very thick top layer while the inner core is all liquid much like a burning marshmallow. This is why we see that rippling effect in places that have had lava run off. The top layer is moving slower then the bottom so the bottom layer will simply spill through and continue and the cycle goes on and one, but I digress. The point is that if wood were to simply be placed in the way of lava run off it would be burned by the hardening top layer then covered by the lava, but if the lava were to be thrown at the wood still in it's pure liquid viscosity it would vaporize the wood. Thing is, the Yonbi's lava dosen't cool off unless cooled off by the Yonbi/Host or an S rank water jutsu. So Air would actually have no major effect in it. So then it would still be in it's liquid viscosity and he super heated thus going straight through the wood as it would air. But i must backtrack to what Orchid had said. Her Golden dragon puppet Ryujin is physically the golden dragon not the spirit she created the puppet from the actual physical form of the dragon and that's why it can withstand lava. Oooooh. Okay, that makes more sense. Kewl. That won't stop me from trying though~ Koga, whats your bloodline/can gona be? I ask because, once my RPC fully controls the Yonbi, he's going to travel the Ninja world with friends, kinda like Nagato's group. Except, they'll all have their own goals etc.
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:36 am
If I may add my two cents. Even in places in the manga where puppets were made from people, it was shown that they were made out of wood, and only had a small piece of their human form remaining. I have to assume it would be the same with any sort of puppet made from a living being. Thus, the puppet has the abilities of the original body, but the body is made of wood. A wooden puppet could resist fire, but I highly doubt it could resist lava. Magma rather, considering all that has been said.
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:36 am
The Roronoa Clan so I'm gonna be a sword and taijutsu specialist, plus I'm gonna have some wicked Lightning Release jutsu Hinote Tosatsu If I may add my two cents. Even in places in the manga where puppets were made from people, it was shown that they were made out of wood, and only had a small piece of their human form remaining. I have to assume it would be the same with any sort of puppet made from a living being. Thus, the puppet has the abilities of the original body, but the body is made of wood. A wooden puppet could resist fire, but I highly doubt it could resist lava. Magma rather, considering all that has been said. Yes I thought so as well but Orchids puppets have been approved as they are, though I will say this. If her puppets were to be made of wood it would be presumed that the dragon would have it's original golden dragon hide and thus be able to withstand the lava. Also Magma as I know it is only referred to as such when it is bellow ground and the actual release for the jutsu are know as Lava Release Jutsu, but yes the composition of the attacks would lead one to assume they are magma based.
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:48 am
Well, I'm just that tiny bit too lazy to go check her puppet description. Too much text becomes intimidating to read though, especially when it's boring descriptions. Or badly written... If they were approved as being made of dragon hide and immune to lava, there is nothing I can say on the matter. But if not, I'd have to recommend having them looked at again if she plans to use them in that way.
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 11:50 am
I'd be inclined to agree if I hadn't read them, which i did because I have no life lol
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 12:01 pm
I just read them, simply because after writing that I felt the need to. And the immunity to fire/heat was not included in the original description. Thus I have to think that if she wanted to use them that way, she needs to rewrite her descriptions.
Best part of all this? Neither of us are official judges, and thus have no say in the matter anyways! XD
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 12:07 pm
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 12:08 pm
Hinote Tosatsu Best part of all this? Neither of us are official judges, and thus have no say in the matter anyways! XD So true X3
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Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 12:10 pm
Hinote Tosatsu I just read them, simply because after writing that I felt the need to. And the immunity to fire/heat was not included in the original description. Thus I have to think that if she wanted to use them that way, she needs to rewrite her descriptions. Best part of all this? Neither of us are official judges, and thus have no say in the matter anyways! XD lol ye i forgot to put it in sry.. its in my original version i have on my desktop >.< so imma see if i can get it accepted sry!
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