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 Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 2:28 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 3:35 pm
.....:~:Blech, I wouldn't mind restarting this s**t. xp 'Course, I got ousted my first damned fight, but now that I've got an actual character to fight with, along with another or two, I think it'd be fun to go ahead and see how much I've advanced. 3nodding :~:
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:11 pm
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:23 pm
[Monseiru]: I never grabbed your foot. I motioned into your foot as it came out in the first step, thus the closest distance between the two of us prior to you stepping back, hence the term 'pendulum step'. My body was the buffer for whatever counter blow you were to toss, whilst my good arm would throw the strike over your [supposedly] risen foot.
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:51 pm
i know you didn't grab it. i also didn't step back. a pendulum step only points to the motion/path of the feet, not action- leg in back clacks with the one in front, and one half period is made. or, if you've ever done team sports, the side shuffle where you click heels? do that going forward. that's basically a pendulum step.
i don't get what you mean about your body being a buffer for counters, but that would change nothing. my post sticks.
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:01 pm
A pendulum step sure sounds like stepping forward, then backwards; like a pendulum moving back and fourth. Rather misleading term to use, but I get it.
However, my character motioned into the step and used his left side as a means of buffering the inevitable assault, before his right hand threw the strike it did.
Frankly: I think your post is quite changed by the fact I didn't grab onto your leg. I don't think the post sticks. biggrin omo:
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:43 pm
but i just told you what it was. i didn't name it, blame the chinese grand masters of wing chun style, and bruce lee for not changing the name.
you stepped forward. i grabbed your attacking sword arm and broke it at the joint. nothing else matters. the post sticks.
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 2:07 pm
Yeh.. gave a misleading post that didn't make it sound as though your foot merely rose just a bit off the ground, that made it sound like you'd come forward then returned..
Then immediately broke my right arm at the joint without any means of reprieve?
Sorry, I can't let that one go. Post doesn't stick, it's unsticked, it has no stickyness to be sticky. It being unsticky and all. domokun You Some five feet from Omi, following him if he chose to move to the side to keep the opponent in front of him, both feet came together and the right was pushed forward, so it seemed to be some sort of lunging in... classic pendulum step, which usually led to kicks. The way his foot was hovering, it seemed as if Laz was about to stomp-kick Omi's shin. However, due to apparent injuries, the move could have been telegraphed too much, and any miss would have Laz land with authority with a foot between Omi's own, two feet away and rooted so that most counter-kicks or sweeps would fail to topple him... though they'd probably just hurt as much as any kick would.
Omi calls shenanigans.You Was Omi... trying to grab Lazenca's leg? Well that wasn't what Laz expected to happen; that wasn't right. That wasn't right at all. Omi was seeing things, the wrong things. A stomp kick to the shin only required Lazenca to raise his foot to that height... no more. If Omi was going to get kicked in the gut by it, he literally had to lie down and roll over.
A. You had lunged in.
B. My character was pretty much on his knees/very, very lowered in stance.
C. Does it make any sense at all to lunge in with a stomping kick aimed towards my shin.. from five feet away.. and only raise the leg a perfect 12"? What would that accomplish at my stance, a free invitation to stab your foot? I doubt that's what you actually intended with your original post.You So, Omi was charging at a leg that'd risen no more than a foot or so off the ground and landed quickly, as per the stomp kick's mechanics- a stomp was hard and fast. But it was performed five feet away. Lazenca never meant to hit Omi, just get him to move. It'd be great if the thing landed, but in no way, shape or form was Lazenca expecting it to land. You And so Lazenca was already in place, ready for Omi's counter charge, which would close the distance between them. The right arm coming forward would have indeed plunged the blade into Lazenca's body, but like this it was just there, coming like a wide straight punch to get it around the leg that wasn't there at all. The stance he was in, something like a horse stance, had his body low...  I don't see how that post, in it's entirety, can be considered valid given the prior post(s).
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:34 pm
that wasn't a misleading post. that was one of the most straightforward posts i've made in the entire fight. it's not... my fault you didn't know what a pendulum step was. i assumed that as a fighter you knew, or you used wiki/google as i and many others do when not sure about a term. the foot DID rise just a bit off the ground, but it didn't return. i didn't say anywhere that i moved back, at all. i didn't imply it at all in the post. i said i moved forward and settled before you met me.
and i broke your joint because i had every intentional to do so, since it seems the only way to make your char stop attacking.
ever seen bruce lee fight? on his big kicks, he has this big windup that telegraphs the hell out it [hand forward, pull it to the side, twitst the hips as the leg goes out]... that overly dramatic startup is a pendulum step. except, lazenca didn't make it all dramatic and showy... arm motion was minimal, but the feet moved in the same motion, though less dramatic and exaggerated. pretty much like my last post's "forward shuffle" diagram/ explanation/ uppercut.
you're not going to get me to say i jumped in and jumped back out, because i did a single pendulum step, stomping into something of a horse stance. my saying "a sort of lunging in" is because i was trying to explain it without dumbing it down. if you thought i was barreling in the same way you were... i'd apologize, but i'm not sorry about your lack of knowledge in the terminology.
in response to [C.], no it doesn't make sense. not at all. that doesn't mean i didn't do it. because i totally did it because i was 100% sure you were going to counter through a telegraphed move. and you took the bait.
i understood you to be standing, trudging [as your post about retrieving your sword says] and trying to stay up. being down is a sin, all that rot. no note of being collapsed over the sword, being low [a longsword in the dirt acts as a crutch, you lean over- as you 'leaned over the hilt" or whatever it says. however, it doesn't matter. because you're lunging at my chest and my hands are where they are for the sole purpose of catching and breaking your arm.
five feet away, and the stomping pendulum is done. and you lunge at my chest, thinking i'm open. a non-exaggerated pendulum moves me about 2, 3 feet. you thinking i'm jumping all in your grill, it certainly looks like it. but i stop short and set, so when you're coming in, 'm ready. and you rush in with all your soul power and angr and as if your existence depends on it. so you committed to it, closing the distance in the process of coming at me trying to run me through.
so i break your arm.
it doesn't matter if you're straight on from the weak standing/hunched over position i thought you were in, or if you're as low as you say you were. i'm going to protect the body from your sword thrust, catch the arm, break the joint, and throw you to the ground.
1 more volley and i'm gonna go make some jello.
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:51 pm
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:41 am
h X c that wasn't a misleading post. that was one of the most straightforward posts i've made in the entire fight. Quote: it's not... my fault you didn't know what a pendulum step was. i assumed that as a fighter you knew, or you used wiki/google as i and many others do when not sure about a term. the foot DID rise just a bit off the ground, but it didn't return. Quote: i didn't say anywhere that i moved back, at all. i didn't imply it at all in the post. i said i moved forward and settled before you met me. Quote: and i broke your joint because i had every intentional to do so, since it seems the only way to make your char stop attacking. Quote: ever seen bruce lee fight? Quote: on his big kicks, he has this big windup that telegraphs the hell out it [hand forward, pull it to the side, twitst the hips as the leg goes out]... that overly dramatic startup is a pendulum step. except, lazenca didn't make it all dramatic and showy... arm motion was minimal, but the feet moved in the same motion, though less dramatic and exaggerated. pretty much like my last post's "forward shuffle" diagram/ explanation/ uppercut. Quote: you're not going to get me to say i jumped in and jumped back out, because i did a single pendulum step, stomping into something of a horse stance. my saying "a sort of lunging in" is because i was trying to explain it without dumbing it down. if you thought i was barreling in the same way you were... i'd apologize, but i'm not sorry about your lack of knowledge in the terminology.
That doesn't change what your character was originally doing in the prior post, that doesn't change that your character didn't "sort of lunge in", and that doesn't change the fact that your character is somehow in the same spot he was in a stance no less after supposedly lunging forward, 100% prepared for my character's lunge in, although by all rational thought, he shouldn't be in the same spot he were.Quote: in response to [C.], no it doesn't make sense. not at all. that doesn't mean i didn't do it. Quote: because i totally did it because i was 100% sure you were going to counter through a telegraphed move. and you took the bait. Quote: i understood you to be standing, trudging [as your post about retrieving your sword says] and trying to stay up. being down is a sin, all that rot. no note of being collapsed over the sword, being low [a longsword in the dirt acts as a crutch, you lean over- as you 'leaned over the hilt" or whatever it says. however, it doesn't matter. because you're lunging at my chest and my hands are where they are for the sole purpose of catching and breaking your arm. Quote: five feet away, and the stomping pendulum is done. and you lunge at my chest, thinking i'm open. a non-exaggerated pendulum moves me about 2, 3 feet. you thinking i'm jumping all in your grill, it certainly looks like it. but i stop short and set, so when you're coming in, 'm ready. and you rush in with all your soul power and angr and as if your existence depends on it. so you committed to it, closing the distance in the process of coming at me trying to run me through. so i break your arm. it doesn't matter if you're straight on from the weak standing/hunched over position i thought you were in, or if you're as low as you say you were. i'm going to protect the body from your sword thrust, catch the arm, break the joint, and throw you to the ground. Quote: 1 more volley and i'm gonna go make some jello.
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:58 pm
And the delicate balance that was known as peace was broken.
With lynch mobs and all.
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:35 am
i didn't lean forward and go RAH and throw all my weight forward. i tried to describe the pendulum. SORRY. i admit that saying "a sort of lunge" ain't right, but it wasn't intentional because i'm in the south y'all, straight out the nola, 8th ward REPRESENT, and i be sayin' things that may mean somthin' else to others. i don't be tryin' to be no confusin' cat. -crosses the neutral ground to go make groceries- but i thought my broken down explanation would have done better to illustrate it. spare me the witty banter and splicing of my posts for the sake of drawing snickers from the peanut gallery, please.
i moved forward and got close, but not as close as you think [or something, i don't even know what the issue is], so i wouldn't be unprotected. i don't even see why distance matters because you're clearing the rest with your 100% lunge of stabbing rage.
your position [low, medium] also matters not because if you're coming to stab me, i'm breaking your arm. possible because i stopped short of closing 5 feet and set so i could parry. because my arm's already there and i'm standing that low and i can move my arm a few inches and do that.
i don't know why we're debating anything, at all. you didn't grab my foot? have a cookie. you're still coming forward, so you can enjoy that cookie while wearing a splint.
anyway... -drinks ether and pulls out red materia- i summon judges of the round table.
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:27 am
h X c i didn't lean forward and go RAH and throw all my weight forward. i tried to describe the pendulum. SORRY. i admit that saying "a sort of lunge" ain't right, but it wasn't intentional because i'm in the south y'all, straight out the nola, 8th ward REPRESENT, and i be sayin' things that may mean somthin' else to others. i don't be tryin' to be no confusin' cat. -crosses the neutral ground to go make groceries- but i thought my broken down explanation would have done better to illustrate it. spare me the witty banter and splicing of my posts for the sake of drawing snickers from the peanut gallery, please.
And hey, don't diss the Peanut Gallery. They're totally cool. :Toad:Quote: i moved forward and got close, but not as close as you think [or something, i don't even know what the issue is], so i wouldn't be unprotected. i don't even see why distance matters because you're clearing the rest with your 100% lunge of stabbing rage. Quote: your position [low, medium] also matters not because if you're coming to stab me, i'm breaking your arm. possible because i stopped short of closing 5 feet and set so i could parry. because my arm's already there and i'm standing that low and i can move my arm a few inches and do that.
Are you saying that so long as I come to attack you, there's no possible way I can resist having my arm broken?
[Krillin]: DESTRUCTO DISC-
[Freeza: omg i laser u nomater WERE OR WUT u atack frum n wit LOL
[Krillin]: [Risen in the air.] ... DILDOS!
My position does matter. It would break the lunge down in a totally different matter than if I'd just charged forward at a medium-top position, it makes actually disregarding my blade's thrust much more difficult. Yet, you seem Hell-bent on a glorified version of, "no i didnt WEALLY muve [Dodge] [Block] [i break ur arm] lol".Quote: i don't know why we're debating anything, at all. you didn't grab my foot? have a cookie. Quote: you're still coming forward, so you can enjoy that cookie while wearing a splint. Quote: anyway... -drinks ether and pulls out red materia- i summon judges of the round table.
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[Vincent]: Blood will rain from the sky as well. And Mickey Mouse will become a Metal Slug character, swear to God. domokun
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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 8:07 am
Sounds like something to see.
On a second note, I never realised Shagrath was a Moderator. Thought he was just another face. One with a very peculiar character, but just another face nonetheless. Maybe I should pay more attention.
In the mean time, I feel the need to party.
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