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 Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:17 pm
It can be control, or blast.
I can "push you" with a blast of telekinetic power, or I can manipulate where your body goes albeit at a lower speed. And yes, you can resist, and here's how:
With the blade, you have contact with it, so you can resist it being forced back upon you.
Now your body, once I lift you into the air, has no traction with the ground and cannot resist.
How about this then for exact levels of manipulation strength due to size:
Jonin:
A person: full strength
Sword: Half strength
Eye: 1/10th strength
Kage:
Building: Full strength
Person: 1/2 strength
Sword: 1/10th
eye: 1/1000th
The reason that it gets so small is because that's just how sharp the power curve is. But, you have to remember, if a kage can move a building with ease, then an eyeball would still get a good bit of force even at 1/1000th the strength.
Okay, how about:
2 mental stamina to enter and stay in an enemy mind per post. If opponent has intelligence of tertiary, and then one additional point per level of intelligence.
But on the other hand, you get one point off the cost for every level of intelligence the user has.
How about this for a cool-off:
If you use a bloodline technique other than telepathy or levitation of your level, you cannot use another bloodline technique of your level for two posts.
If it is lower rank than you, then there is no cool-off.
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:53 pm
When did I ever have contact with the blade? I think you're getting confused. Let's do this:
Imagine there is a sharp stalactite on the ground. Mayu catches a hold of Hikaru and lifts him into the air and pushes him down onto the spike. Do I get impaled automatically since I couldn't evade the psychic grab?
...and what do you mean by manipulation strength?
Personally, I don't think you should be able to physically manipulate a person. It should work more like "the force' where you push and pull people through an unseen power, not pick them up and drag them where you want them to go.
Also, picking up a mountain should be just as difficult as threading a needle with mental powers, as each side of the equation requires a different level of manipulation (Mountain, as more of a raw outpouring of chakra and mental power, and Needle, a precise control of chakra and mental concentration.)
The difficulty should be like an hourglass shape, not a cone. Also, if Intelligence is a requirement for the class, I'm not so sure we should be giving bonuses for intelligence, since they're required to have it anyways.
For the cooldown, it sounds okay, until you hit kage, at which point it is massively powerful. I think that each individual jutsu should have a cooldown cost associated with the mental stamina required to use it.
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 1:20 pm
The hourglass shape is what I mean: you can have a lot of power, or a lot of focus, or a mild mix of both.
Yes and no on the dodge: If you can twist so that the pillar misses your body, or use you hands/feet to push off of or against the stalactite, then yes you will have successfully dodged it. Once you have something to push off of, or something like a wind jutsu to propel yourself in another direction, then you have a defense as well in addition to being able to move your body within the hold.
The force is the general idea here. You can push up, down, left, right, backwards and forwards. I can't actually rotate the body, but you can rotate weapons like kuni or swords that someone is not already holding. So, I can move you around like a chess piece, but I can't force you to reach down into your pants and rip your balls off. I control where your body goes, not what it does.
Edit: Fine, 3 points mental stamina per post for forced telepathy, and paying with chakra for that is not an option for it.
B-Rank: Cannot use another B rank or higher for 1 post
A-Rank: Cannot use another B rank or higher for 2 posts
S-Rank and beyond: Cannot use B rank or higher for 3 posts
Psybeam: Cannot use B rank or higher for 5 posts
The shields do not count until they are deactivated/destroyed.
It doesn't matter how you pay, the cool-down stays the same.
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:39 pm
Kansatsuryoku
Tracking, Observation, Analysis
Name of Kekkei Genkai/Clan : Kansatsuryoku (Powers of Observation)
History : When and where the Kansatsu clan first originated is shrouded in mystery since no actually documentation for this clan was ever conceived. But from what has been passed on by word of mouth, this clan, for as long as anyone can remember, have been a nomadic tribe wondering from town to town avoiding any specify contact with anything associated with ninjas and ninja villages. It is said that the founder of the tribe was a person gifted with the natural ability to detect heat signatures and sound wave as well as being able to catch glimpse into the past and future. Because of his amazing natural abilities, he was taken away from his friends and family and asked to do many dangerous tasks under the will of a selfish tyrant ruler. Seeing how his abilities were misused and his will was consistently being oppressed, the man snuck away from the lord's castle during a lunar eclipse and ran as far away as possible.
Knowing that there was a chance for the Lord to come after him as well as others wanting to use his abilities for evil, the man began living as a wandering hermit doing little things here and there to gain money while avoiding unwanted attention. It was during his travels that the man gained several followers one of which he eventually married. The tribe continued to expend over the years and as different people with natural abilities to see wavelength integrated into the tribe, the bloodline eventually developed into what it is today.
Though most members still keep to the tradition of their clan leading nomadic lives, several members have begun to question their ways and left to sought out for a different way to live. As members continued to leave one by one, the tribe weakened and eventually was thought to have died out. Several years later thought, a familiar hermit cloak can be seen worn by various people who would every once in awhile enter town and set up a large triangular purple tent with gold trimmings. The people who tend to seek out members of this clan whenever they appear in town are the people hoping to get their fortunes told or in the rarer of cases, to track someone down.
Rules For Kekkei Genkai/Clan :
1. 'Intelligence' and 'Great Chakra Control 'are required character strengths for this bloodline. (Users must have a strong mind and the chakra control to utilize their chakra in various different configurations and with very fine control.)
2. Regular exercising/relaxation period of the mind is required (yoga, meditation, ESP cards, etc)
3. Sight limitations:
Genin:
- Mind will only be able to handle a maximum of 5 shifts in a row without rest.
- Eyes can only handle a maximum of 5 posts non-stop before requiring a 10 post rest period. If overused, there's a chance for the user to lose their eyesight.
Chuunin:
- Mind will only be able to handle a maximum of 8 shifts in a row without rest.
- Eyes can only handle a maximum of 10 posts non-stop before requiring a 15 post rest period. If overused, there's a chance for the user to lose their eyesight.
Special Jounin/Jounin:
- Mind will only be able to handle a maximum of 12 shifts in a row without rest.
- Eyes can only handle a maximum of 15 posts non-stop before requiring a 20 post rest period. If overused, there's a chance for the user to lose thier eyesight.
Sannin/Kage:
- Mind will only be able to handle a maximum of 15 shifts in a row without rest.
- Eyes can only handle a maximum of 20 posts non-stop before requiring a 25 post rest period. If overused, there's a chance for the user to lose their eyesight.
Weaknesses:
1. Regular exercising/relaxation period of the mind/eyes is required(yoga, meditation, ESP cards, etc) since the mind is in constant high gear trying to grasp onto the various wavelengths and process them into a image for the user to see.
2. Constant shifting between the various 'sights' may cause temporarily blindness to the user because of the mind's inablitly to process the quick changing pace of the user's sight.
3. Over-usage of the eyes can lead to a malfunction of the brain, blindness, loss of control over the 'sights' (the mind is constantly switching between the sights sometimes picking up on infrared, other times ultraviolet, etc.) or a fixed eyesight (meaning that the user can no longer shift between the various sights and will be stuck with one of the sights for the remainder of their lifespan - there's a chance for the user to lose their Kekkei Genkai ability and be stuck with regular eyesight)
4. As members continue to progress through the levels of this bloodline, there is a chance for them to lose their eyesight due to the constant strain of absorbing chakra into the eyes and channeling it into the proper vision. Possible chance of going insane and losing their mind if use suffers from extreme shock during the use of their Kekkai Genkai.
5. The user's eyes change a certain color according to the specific stage of the Kansatsuryoku the user is currently using allowing for easy identification of what 'sight' their using unless covered.
Strengths:
1. Users are able to pick up on various heat and chakra impressions left behind by people, allowing them to track people's heat signatures and detect the presence of sound waves with their eyes.
2. Capable of absorbing chakra and utilizing it to bend the visible spectrum of light allowing members to see into the various classifications of electromagnetic radiation/waves (infrared/ultraviolet/X-ray)
3. More skilled members of this clan will eventually be able to gain the ability to see into the past and future.
4. Due to their constant training of the mind, members of the Kansatsu have built a sort of immunity against Genjutsu. With their developed insight clan members easier spot the difference between illusion and reality and are able to quickly find the weak spot of the Genjutsu thus breaking out of it before it can even take hold.
Stage One: X-ray vision
Description: The user has just recently awaken their Kekkai Genkai and is starting the basic training on how to use their special ability. Still new to this, the user has yet to develop the sense/skill necessary to detect long wavelengths but the user does have the natural ability to hear high frequencies allowing them to easily detect the high pitched frequency and short wavelengths of X-ray radiation. While in this stage, the user's eye-color will turn a jade green indicating that this stage of the Kekkai Genkai is currently being used and the user's vision is able to penetrate the surface of objects/things such as human skin, allowing them to see what's inside (human bone).
Jutsu Name: X-ray Microscopy
Rank : D
Elemental Ethnicity: -none-
Description: The user is able to focus their vision to detect very small objects, enhancing them under their eyes, allowing them to see things at a nearly microscopic level.
Stage Two: Ultraviolet vision
Description: This is the second stage of the Kansatsuryoku which grants the user the ability to see things in ultraviolet. At this stage, the user's ability to detect wavelengths have increased allowing the user to pick up on the long wavelengths of ultraviolet radiation. When activated, the user's eyes will turn violet and the user will seen everything in a screen of violet thus toning down the brightness and damage of certain things (looking at the sun). Using this stage of vision, the user will be able to detect objects normally unseen, such as bodily fluids, sweat, blood, and otherwise which have long since become invisible to normal eyesight.
How to obtain:
- Must be at least a Chunnin to achieve this level of sight
- Must have trained in using the X-ray vision for more then 15 posts
Jutsu Name: Spectrophotometry
Rank : C
Elemental Ethnicity : -none-
Description : using this ability, the user will be able to identify the chemical structure and makeup of many objects, allowing them to know exactly what it is as well as find out specific information on any special abilities/construction of the item.
Jutsu Name: 'X' marks the spot
Rank : C
Elemental Ethnicity: -none-
Description: This allows the user to create a 'Black Light' mark on an object or person which remains permanently on someone until it is released by the user. this mark cannot be removed and cannot be seen by anyone other then a Kansatsuryoku utilizing the Ultraviolet vision.
Stage Three: Infrared vision
Description: At this point in time, the user has developed a good control over their ability and is able to move onto the next step which is infrared vision. Infrared radiation have longer wavelengths then ultraviolet radiation but a lower frequency. During activation, the user's eyes will turn an amber color and by absorbing chakra to bend the visible spectrum of light, the user can now see clearer the left over heat impression made by people as well as their heat signatures. Their vision then turns into a set color palette of dark indigo to white representing the different body temperature radiating off the things in the user's sight.This gives the user the ability to see through walls, the ground, and other solid objects to lock onto those who may be hiding.
How to obtain:
- Must be at least a Special Jounin to achieve this level of sight
- Must have trained in using Ultraviolet vision for more then 15 posts.
Jutsu Name: Heat Lock
Rank: B
Elemental Ethnicity: -none-
Description: User channels an item, and even some jutsu with a heat-seeking ability, making any thrown projectile (or projectile-like jutsu) capable of tracking it's intended target, bobbing and weaving around obstacles to strike it's foe.
Jutsu Name: Generate Heat
Rank: D
Elemental Ethnicity: -none-
Description: This is a minor ability, it allows you to warm surfaces, food, and even add heat to a therapeutic massage.
Stage Four: Visions of Time
Description: The user has finally reached the point in their training where they have fully master the basic 'sights' given by their bloodline. Having trained their mind and hearing to the max, the user now must go beyond that for this last and final stage of the Kansatsuryoku. At this stage, the user has finally awakened the ability to spot the long wavelengths created by radio waves and detect chakra imprints between all of the visual spectrum allowing them bend the radio waves/ chakra imprints to create flashes of imagery projected on objects. If trained enough, the user will eventually build up the skills necessary to predict movements.
How to obtain:
- Must be at least a Jounin to achieve this level of sight
- Must have trained in using Infrared vision for more then 15 posts.
Jutsu Name: Past Sight (Precognition)
Rank: A
Elemental Ethnicity: - none -
Description: The user inserts their chakra into the object in question and using the chakra searches for chakra/sound wave imprints pertaining to the past that the user wants to see.
Jutsu Name: Future Sight (Clairvoyance)
Rank: A
Elemental Ethnicity: -none-
Description: This is basically the same thing as the Past Sight technique except instead of glimpsing into the past, the user is attempting to catch a glimpse at the future. Because of the uncertainty of the future, if the user tries to see too far into the future, there's a chance for it to change or go wrong. The percentage of it being wrong increase the farther the user attempts to see.
Members Of Kekkei Genkai/Clan
1. Haruko (Tsubame) Kansatsu
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:52 pm
This is awsome btw lol but their are a couple things...
1. The draw backs like going crazy or being stuck in one vision needs to be ore defined or people will just ingnore that part so think up a amount of post till those things take effect.
2. The heat seeking jutsu is really cool, but when you say even some jutsu you neede to be more clear about wich kind of jutsu I just dont want their to be any confusion even tho it is pretty easy to tell wich.
Other than that I love this Idea
-Edit-
The gf thinks its pretty lol
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:58 pm
Thanks Havik.
1) I thought so too, I'm considering dice rolls, what do you think?
2) That was Cobra's idea so I'll confirm with him about that.
Tell the gf thanks, all credit for pictures goes to Cobra btw.
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Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 9:45 pm
Hmmm I dont know, I will see what Cobra has to say about it.
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 8:59 am
havikthecold This is awsome btw lol but their are a couple things... 1. The draw backs like going crazy or being stuck in one vision needs to be ore defined or people will just ingnore that part so think up a amount of post till those things take effect.
Something like this should work:
1 post past limit: Roll a d20, if you get a 1, you either are stuck with one 'sight' or you lose your eyesight. (10% chance to lose)
2 posts past limit: Roll a d10, if you get a 1, you either are stuck with one 'sight' or you lose your eyesight. (25% chance to lose)
3 posts past limit: Roll a d6, if you get a 1, you either are stuck with one 'sight' or you lose your eyesight. (30% chance to lose)
4 posts past limit: Roll a d4, if you get a 1, you either are stuck with one 'sight' or you lose your eyesight. (50% chance to lose)
5 posts past limit: You lose your eyesight.
...as for the 'natural progression' use... we can begin to make a scale of use within switching back and forth that will lead to immense headaches and temporary loss of vision or being stuck with one sight, but I don't think that a Kansatsu's natural Kekkai Genkai progression should lead to blindness, unless the powers are overused.
havikthecold 2. The heat seeking jutsu is really cool, but when you say even some jutsu you needed to be more clear about which kind of jutsu I just dont want their to be any confusion even tho it is pretty easy to tell which.
What do you think?havikthecold The gf thinks its pretty lol
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:59 pm
Ok wel come up with the scale and let me see it as for the die roll it sounds good to me. I can help with the scale i need be
A rank jutsu sounds like a good limit to me, their are more ways to get threw a jutsu attack than ust jumping to the side, this will make people think more and I really like that [Plus those god modders will get pretty screwed lol] Just make the descripton more clearly show wich this can be done with and cant.
Side note:I didnt want you to list them all that would be silly lol
And I shall give Rosa the hug xD
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:28 pm
I for one think the your scale for the dice roll is pretty neat Cobra. Thanks. Regarding the risks of overusing the kekkei genkai, I've also considered people started with 100/100 perfect vision and slowly subtracting from it depending on the dice roll. Kinda like how Itachi is slowly going blind. I've considered it but it might make everything even more confusing...
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 1:35 pm
shan chouruiSinging, Beauty, Speed Name: Shan Chourui, English name: Beautiful birds.
Analysis: The clan is called the "beautiful birds" for a reason, all members of the clan are known for beauty when they have finaly obtained thier wings, thought it is roughly like the Motarasu clan. The clan's original origin was the Cloud village, where there white pale skin and smooth body comes from, thier warrior instints were found apon sand, wings from sound, Speed from mist and bred within konoha. The member would recieve years of harsh training from the day they could walk to the day they unlocked wings. There personalities are strange...they only keep to other members of thier clan for fear of being teased about the wings that retract from thier back or if they have yet to obtain those they fear how people would treat a person who wears greek armor? Who knows...the history did begin within cloud but soon a rage within the village hated them more then anything cause of thier population so they did something terrible, they started killing the so called "guardians of the gates", the angels who survived took off not with wings, or speed just ran like a ninja could. They started to learn how to use this "gifts" of wings, speed and beauty. It took over 100 years to finally become the guardians of cloud again, and yet they guarded all villages. They're wings grew from small ones to huge ones almost the exact size of the person. The clan is also known for being called "Archangels" and have statues from the past of the greatest of them.
Rules of the clan:
1): You do have great speed but not the speed of a konaga clan, your speed dos match that of taijustu but your wings must be folded to run at taijustu speed if not, the speed is dimished to slow.
2): The clan specializes in beauty, which dose'nt mean your the prettiest person in town, your just more mature then your age. Ex: female genin would be as mature as a chuunin usualy is, chuunin males would look like jounin, ect ect
3): Singing is a special trait, it uses the sound justu only and have high pitched voices, your able to learn sound justu for whatever village your from but your high pitch is not obtained till chuunin.
4): The greek armor can be any style you want but NOT of god's and goddess armor, thats just plain godmod.
Strengths:
The clan has many strengths, but some can only be obtained at certain levels.
Genin: Your strengths are small which include: beauty, singing[not as high pitched only normal], and small speeds since you haven't obtaiend wings yet.
Chuunin: Your strengths are more then genin but less then Jounin: Your speed is equivlent to that of a genin's taijustu speed, your wings will be from elbow to shoulder, small yes but they will grow. Your singing can be used for sound justu.
Jounin: Your strengths are more then both chuunin and genin but less then anbu/onion and sannin: Your wings have grown to be the size of fromy our the tip of your figners to youe shoulders. Your speed is of chuunin taijustu speed, you must train with it before it hurts you. Your singing is of higher pitches, you may learn all sound justu 1 level above your rank but no more.
Oion/anbu and sannin: If you become the secondary guardians, Onion and anbu then your speeds, singing and wings stay the same, but you are able to fly up to 10 feet into the air for up to 10 minutes[5 posts]. Sannin have more flying capabilites of up to 20 feet in the air, 20 minutes flying before exhausted[10 posts] and thier singing is like the sound justu of kage rank and can make ears bleed is held long anough. Your speed is that of Jounin.
Kage ranked: Your at your full capacity but you have obtained a mark on your ankel for females and wrist for males, the mark will turn you to stone if your either: captured, dead, or dying. Being captured you must stab your wrist or bite the mark to turn to stone for up to 2 days and break through the stone, exhausted and bloody due to the inside to hold air it has a hole where the mark is and where your mouth is. The stone is thin yes, can be broken by taijustu, lighten and earth.
Weaknesses:
Genin: Your speed is normal, your vunerable due to not obtaining armor till chuunin. Your a normal genin till you get chuunin.
Chuunin: your wings are heavy and result is back pain, leg pain and neck redness due to the feathers ruth texture.
jounin: your wings are heavier and arm pains come to result, restlessness gives your red eyes for fear of hurting your wings while sleeping.
Anbu and above: your weaknessess are: your speed is great but....your tend to not control where your going or how to stop. Your wings hurt your entire body with pain and your eyes have become bloodshot red and your neck red unless armor is put there at chuunin, your eyes are still beautiful but are deep or bright red like the devils.Stage 1
The angel "Oh say can you see....the angels have arrived for thee, let hope and survival bring us together and savor forever!"
Your the first stage, your a sweet angel, no wings yet till you reach chuunin and of course you can't just jump ahead to the stages! To get to the second stage you must
1): Kill another genin with one of your elements.
2): or become rouge and kill two genin of both your elements[EX: 1 genin has water and second has fire both have your element]
3): Turn chuunin
This clan stage is the first one, your a normal ninja for now but your chakra aura is brighter then others even if with a dark color. This stage has a sepcial type of thinng the members wear that will glow if there is another member next to them or in the same area.
The necklace or bracelet, anklet even piercings any of them are solid gold with thier birthstone in the middle of a circle only the gem glows though. This stage has NO wings, speed or anything but a bright aura and gemstone, if the gemstone is destroyed, you are vunerable.
Members of this stage:
Head of stage 1:
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4.Stage 2The warrior. "Oh the lord has come, to save us with his warriors! Dear Zues bring us our saviors!"
Stage 2: This stage is where you obtain wings unless your already chuunin then you may obtain armor made from the highest mountain in cloud and delivered to you specialy. This is where your armor may be any color and is solid as steel. Your eyes change colors at this stage when your clan is activated and you glow brighter then your chakra aura.
Requirments to get to the next stage:
Must kill 3 chuunins, two with the same element and another with our second element.
Must kill a jounin and chuunin.just seeing if it's ok so i can keep going xd
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Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 4:58 pm
Cobra, please read my previous post along with this one.
How about for a cool-off, you can do one post of manipulation per hand, with one post cool off? So I can alternate hands to do one manipulation technique per post, or do two manipulation techniques and then wait a post before telekinetic manipulation can be used? That way I can only manipulate 1 target at a time, or 2 and then none the next post?
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:41 pm
Deil Grist The force is the general idea here. You can push up, down, left, right, backwards and forwards. I can't actually rotate the body, but you can rotate weapons like kuni or swords that someone is not already holding. So, I can move you around like a chess piece, but I can't force you to reach down into your pants and rip your balls off. I control where your body goes, not what it does. Deil Grist Edit: Fine, 3 points mental stamina per post for forced telepathy, and paying with chakra for that is not an option for it. B-Rank: Cannot use another B rank or higher for 1 post A-Rank: Cannot use another B rank or higher for 2 posts S-Rank and beyond: Cannot use B rank or higher for 3 posts Psybeam: Cannot use B rank or higher for 5 posts The shields do not count until they are deactivated/destroyed. It doesn't matter how you pay, the cool-down stays the same.
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Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:46 pm
Deil Grist Cobra, please read my previous post along with this one. How about for a cool-off, you can do one post of manipulation per hand, with one post cool off? So I can alternate hands to do one manipulation technique per post, or do two manipulation techniques and then wait a post before telekinetic manipulation can be used? That way I can only manipulate 1 target at a time, or 2 and then none the next post?
...but manipulations have to cost you mental stamina as well.
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Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:05 pm
Okay, so, here is what we will put on the telepathy:
This costs 3 mental stamina points per post when used to force yourself into an opponent's mind.
High-Level Moves, except for telekinetic shield [because it already has a cool off]:
B-Rank: Cannot use another B rank bloodline move or higher for 1 post, except for shields
A-Rank: Cannot use another B rank bloodline move or higher for 2 posts, except for shields
S-Rank and beyond: Cannot use B rank bloodline move or higher for 3 posts, except for shields
Psybeam: Cannot use B rank or higher for 5 posts, except for shields. Also, you must apply psybeam's rules.
General Telekinetic Manipulation Rules: When you gesture with a hand for a telekinetic move, you cannot do so with the same hand the following post. So, you can use 1 telekinetic manipulation per post, or 2 one post and none the next.
The user can only control the directional movement of a person, not the actions of their body [You can move them like chess pieces, but not force them to stab themselves with a kuni like the Nara clan can]. The user can control objects not held by the opponent's hands in any way desired. Objects in the hand of the opponent can be pushed, but not directed to maim the opponent. [With an advanced enough manipulation technique, you can deflect a blow from a blade.]
These are what I am adding/changing in the style, and a revised copy will soon be posted.
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