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Hinote Tosatsu
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:43 pm


Augoeides
I_am_Ronnel_no_Fenniksu
It's actually the Village Hidden in the Leaves, so if anything it would have Leaf based stuff.

Also:
Deidara's Kekkei Genkai was tied into Iwagakure in the storyline - The bishounen freak was a rogue from that village.
Suigetsu was an experiment of Orochimaru's, so if you wanted to make an argument of his Kekkei Genkai belonging to any village, that village would have to be Otogakure.


Moreso it must be asked why Suigetsu's ability is even considered a Bloodline/Clan when it's more or less a haxxored jutsu.


That one is easy. We're all junkies for excuses to make OP bloodlines. Same reason Konan's paper jutsu became a bloodline. Or Deidara's freaky hand mouths. Or Kakuzu's stitching and heart theft.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:44 pm


I see the point that you're bringing up Wood and yeah I don't like using the "because I said so" reasoning. It does nothing but piss people off. I should know because my parents use it on me all the time. But enough of me getting off topic let me get back to answering your question buddy.

Limiting Bloodlines to villages would do nothing but piss people off an provide too many restrictions with character to a point were things would be inefficient and a complete nuissance. We would have to create so many bloodlines and balance out their powers which would be time consuming and would lead to many people not wanting to join. That is the reason as to why we do not limit bloodlines.

Now as far as the taijutsu styles, this village only styles are meant to be some secret, something special for each of the villages. It is something that a village will be able to claim as their own and use against others in battle. The taijutsu styles are suppose to be something to provide incentive but they aren't always because most people do not think about such things before making their character which leads to arguments such as this one. But it does make people think "Damn I wish I could be in that village because I want that style and I'll raise hell until I get it!" Prime example, you. xD

And I know it would seem like Konoha would have an unfair advantage but they really don't. Honestly in POTS they are the second weakest village their is. The only reason they aren't the weakest is because of all the s**t I've done to Kumo.

iMistah-kun


Gregar828
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:47 pm


Wood, sometimes we dont fit with naruto, sometimes we do. Know why? Because its our guild, and we can do what we want with it. So not in the interest of keeping things to the storyline of naruto (which we most certainly do not do), but in the interest of giving the villages a bit of originality, each village has village specific taijutsu. And 8 gates is Konoha's village specific taijutsu.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:49 pm


Hinote Tosatsu
Augoeides
I_am_Ronnel_no_Fenniksu
It's actually the Village Hidden in the Leaves, so if anything it would have Leaf based stuff.

Also:
Deidara's Kekkei Genkai was tied into Iwagakure in the storyline - The bishounen freak was a rogue from that village.
Suigetsu was an experiment of Orochimaru's, so if you wanted to make an argument of his Kekkei Genkai belonging to any village, that village would have to be Otogakure.


Moreso it must be asked why Suigetsu's ability is even considered a Bloodline/Clan when it's more or less a haxxored jutsu.


That one is easy. We're all junkies for excuses to make OP bloodlines. Same reason Konan's paper jutsu became a bloodline. Or Deidara's freaky hand mouths. Or Kakuzu's stitching and heart theft.


and I suppose it does prevent people from attempting stupid s**t like combining Kakuzu's stitching with say... A sharingan.

Augoeides

Romantic Hunter


A City Of Fools

Hygienic Sex Symbol

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:51 pm


I'm not saying we should limit the bloodlines. xD
Its just an example.

Anyways, I get that, I'm just saying that the one sort of taijutsu that isn't a real style, which can be used by anyone with the will to use it, should not be the one tied down to one village. I mean, in all the other villages, their styles fit the village pretty well, but 8 gates fits everywhere unlike desert fist.

I'm not saying that konoha is overpowered. I'm saying that if we went off of the logic that the reason they get 8 gates is BECAUSE its the only place its been seen, then they would have like 3/4ths of the things from the manga, and would be overpowered. That is why I wont accept that as an explanation to why they get 8 gates. And my reasoning against it being a pull factor to join konoha is because there were only 3 people using it. 1 is innactive [The teacher of it no less] and the other 2 I have not seen on once since I joined, and I doubt that I will, so it obviously is not much of a pull factor. That and the massive amounts of training posts that it requires., Most people would die tying to do that. You know justa s wella s I dso that it wont bother me, but yeah, thats actually a push factor, and not a pull factor. Getting my drift?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:54 pm


Gregar828
Wood, sometimes we dont fit with naruto, sometimes we do. Know why? Because its our guild, and we can do what we want with it. So not in the interest of keeping things to the storyline of naruto (which we most certainly do not do), but in the interest of giving the villages a bit of originality, each village has village specific taijutsu. And 8 gates is Konoha's village specific taijutsu.


That is what I mean. Thats an answer thats just like "Because I said so."
Things cant improve if theya re not open to criticism.
I did not say you followed them or did not follow them exactly. I'm saying that if you are going to use reasoning like that, then it is gonna have to apply to everything else as well, or I will not accept it.

A City Of Fools

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Gregar828
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 1:58 pm


We're not being canon (I think were the most uncanon guild there is, we dont even use the Akatsuki) and were not trying to give villages a push/pull factor, we just want villages to have a bit of uniqueness. Konoha's uniqueness is the 8 gates, Suna's is sunaton, Kiri's is silent blade, Kumo's is magnetic touch, Iwa's is Flaming Muay Thai, Oto's is ototon, Yuki's is frozen fist, Ame's is Battojutsu, and Kusa's is Kusaton. This is how it is, and this is how it's staying. And I really dont care if it's percieved as a "because I said so" reasoning by some people.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:02 pm


Yet again, I did not say you were being canon.
And once again you are using a "Because I said so" answer.
Saying you want a village to be unique is the same as saying you want to give it pull factors, FYI.
Something tells me that you either haven't read or haven't understood what I've been saying this whole time. -.-
I understand that each has their signature thing, but konoha's is the only one that doesn't FIT as its signature thing. That and its not even a real style.

A City Of Fools

Hygienic Sex Symbol


iMistah-kun

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:03 pm


Hmm well yeah that what I was saying greg. Uniqueness is just like a pull factor in my opinion. Since it's that thing that a village has that would make others envious.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:07 pm


Lets get to the point. 8 Gates remains a Konoha only style. Discussion ended.

Gregar828
Vice Captain


iMistah-kun

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:14 pm


Wood I know what you're saying but if you want to be technical, each and everyone of those things Greg mentioned could be used in another village but it's not used because it takes away from the uniqueness, pull factor, incentive, or whatever you want to call it. Now we have reasoning behind everyone of the choices we made, and each of the reasons could be argued. In fact, it's kind of good that the reason would be argued and argued to such a high extent. That's how it's suppose to be. We can't control if a village does not use it's special perk. No one from Kumo uses magnetic touch but you didn't even notice that did you? Probably not. No one ever notices such things unless it's what they want. Just like the 8 gates and your situation. No one noticed it until you wanted it.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:19 pm


@Mistah: Well obviously I did not notice it. I did not have any reason to look for it, and I have nothing to do with Kumo, so it wouldn't make any sense if I did.

@Greg: You cannot improve without criticism, and simply ending a discussion without a proper conclusion is like a small child saying "It's mine and you cant have it" then running away and hiding.

A City Of Fools

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bb3000ae

Desirable Lover

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:24 pm


Just because someone doesn't agree with you, that doesn't mean they not listening to criticism. He listened, didn't agree with it, and kept it the same. Repeating it over and over is more like a child throwing a tantrum.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:30 pm


I'm not saying its mine. I'm not even a konoha ninja. I'm just ending this because I know the end result, and I'm tired of this thread being clogged by the same problem.

Kiri has sand on its beaches, but no one has figured out how to perform sunaton. Magnetism surely exists everywhere, but only Kumo has found out how to use that with taijutsu. Grass exists in many places, but only those of Kusagakure can perform kusaton. Sound is the most widespread of them all, being everywhere all the time (except in a vacuum, like a black hole, not a claning vacuum). So it's not impossible to say that everyone possesses eight chakra gates, but only the scientists (or whoever finds this stuff out) of konoha have discovered how to override these gates and use the effects for enhanced taijutsu.

Gregar828
Vice Captain


iMistah-kun

PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 2:31 pm


Exactly my point. It didn't matter to you at all did it? But if you wanted Magnetic Touch instead of 8 gates we would be having the same arguement ya know? Just like if someone from Iwa decided they wanted Sunaton because Sand is basically a bunch of crushed rocks so they should be able to use it. Which is the same reasoning that you are using for being able to use 8 gates because it is something that should be within anyone.

The fact is that anyone COULD be able to use any of these things perks from but they will NOT be able to because it is so that each village has something to call their own?

You understand what I'm saying bro?
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