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 Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:33 am
InuVash255 mysticaldragonmastergurl Dark Bunny Lord mysticaldragonmastergurl Dark Bunny Lord mysticaldragonmastergurl Personally, I'm not going to watch it. Mainly because M. Night can't pronounce Aang's name correctly. Note the TWO a's there, how can you mispronounce that? But he did! He pronounces it 'Ahng', which breaks most (if not all) common pronunciation rules. Ugh, I don't think I will watch it after all the bad reviews anyway. And here I was actually looking forward to it... sad Actually he can, the creators actually stated that when they created the series they gave the characters Asian names but didn't know how to pronounce them properly and M-Night fixed that. That much didn't bother me, it was more that the movie had way to much s**t packed into it making it seem like you where watching a re-cap of season 1, not a movie >.< Mm... I see. Just the issue of pronunciation threw me off. Aang's should still have been pronounced the same for the sake of contingency. Outside of that I've seen some of the previews, there's a lot of things in the previews that didn't happen in the show. Or rather that happened differently in the show. It was pretty spot on with what happened, it just cut a ton out because it tried to include to much. It's like trying to watch 5 episodes of avatar in half an hour essentially then having them (to cram the episodes into this time) skip all the story build up and instead show just the very first few minutes and last few minutes of every scene. You loose all the meaty middle that gives you any sort of connection to the characters. I see. Oh and did Kana / Grangran's hair look like a mop to you? No, it looked fine. She really wasn't a big character in the movie. She had like, 3 minutes of screen time tops. You know, to make room for a full hour of senseless action and over the top martial arts. Right, sure, just from the angle of the preview it did. Of course the elements are based of martial arts but over the top isn't good. Did Zuko at least have his scar (he didn't in the previews)?
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:43 am
InuVash255 mysticaldragonmastergurl Dark Bunny Lord mysticaldragonmastergurl Dark Bunny Lord mysticaldragonmastergurl Personally, I'm not going to watch it. Mainly because M. Night can't pronounce Aang's name correctly. Note the TWO a's there, how can you mispronounce that? But he did! He pronounces it 'Ahng', which breaks most (if not all) common pronunciation rules. Ugh, I don't think I will watch it after all the bad reviews anyway. And here I was actually looking forward to it... sad Actually he can, the creators actually stated that when they created the series they gave the characters Asian names but didn't know how to pronounce them properly and M-Night fixed that. That much didn't bother me, it was more that the movie had way to much s**t packed into it making it seem like you where watching a re-cap of season 1, not a movie >.< Mm... I see. Just the issue of pronunciation threw me off. Aang's should still have been pronounced the same for the sake of contingency. Outside of that I've seen some of the previews, there's a lot of things in the previews that didn't happen in the show. Or rather that happened differently in the show. It was pretty spot on with what happened, it just cut a ton out because it tried to include to much. It's like trying to watch 5 episodes of avatar in half an hour essentially then having them (to cram the episodes into this time) skip all the story build up and instead show just the very first few minutes and last few minutes of every scene. You loose all the meaty middle that gives you any sort of connection to the characters. I see. Oh and did Kana / Grangran's hair look like a mop to you? No, it looked fine. She really wasn't a big character in the movie. She had like, 3 minutes of screen time tops. You know, to make room for a full hour of senseless action and over the top martial arts. My major problem seems to be the ending they took out everything that was amazing about the end(from what i have heard) no Aang becoming a fish monster, Admiral shou doesn't die the same way and a few other things.
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:53 am
Devocrew InuVash255 mysticaldragonmastergurl Dark Bunny Lord mysticaldragonmastergurl Mm... I see. Just the issue of pronunciation threw me off. Aang's should still have been pronounced the same for the sake of contingency. Outside of that I've seen some of the previews, there's a lot of things in the previews that didn't happen in the show. Or rather that happened differently in the show. It was pretty spot on with what happened, it just cut a ton out because it tried to include to much. It's like trying to watch 5 episodes of avatar in half an hour essentially then having them (to cram the episodes into this time) skip all the story build up and instead show just the very first few minutes and last few minutes of every scene. You loose all the meaty middle that gives you any sort of connection to the characters. I see. Oh and did Kana / Grangran's hair look like a mop to you? No, it looked fine. She really wasn't a big character in the movie. She had like, 3 minutes of screen time tops. You know, to make room for a full hour of senseless action and over the top martial arts. My major problem seems to be the ending they took out everything that was amazing about the end(from what i have heard) no Aang becoming a fish monster, Admiral shou doesn't die the same way and a few other things. No Avatar-State induced Giant Carp? burning_eyes . Oh and I think it's spelled 'Zhao'. So help me if they didn't have Yue becoming the moon I swear I'll yell.
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:01 am
mysticaldragonmastergurl Devocrew InuVash255 mysticaldragonmastergurl Dark Bunny Lord mysticaldragonmastergurl Mm... I see. Just the issue of pronunciation threw me off. Aang's should still have been pronounced the same for the sake of contingency. Outside of that I've seen some of the previews, there's a lot of things in the previews that didn't happen in the show. Or rather that happened differently in the show. It was pretty spot on with what happened, it just cut a ton out because it tried to include to much. It's like trying to watch 5 episodes of avatar in half an hour essentially then having them (to cram the episodes into this time) skip all the story build up and instead show just the very first few minutes and last few minutes of every scene. You loose all the meaty middle that gives you any sort of connection to the characters. I see. Oh and did Kana / Grangran's hair look like a mop to you? No, it looked fine. She really wasn't a big character in the movie. She had like, 3 minutes of screen time tops. You know, to make room for a full hour of senseless action and over the top martial arts. My major problem seems to be the ending they took out everything that was amazing about the end(from what i have heard) no Aang becoming a fish monster, Admiral shou doesn't die the same way and a few other things. No Avatar-State induced Giant Carp? burning_eyes . Oh and I think it's spelled 'Zhao'. So help me if they didn't have Yue becoming the moon I swear I'll yell. No Yua became the moon from what i have heard but yeah no Carp, and yes Zhao died in a much different way, or rather a gayer way. and the battle ended in a stupid way in my opinion.
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:03 am
I hate their ineptitude at choosing actors >Otheir Katara was a crap choice, I mean your telling me there wasn't at least a tan girl in their choice of actresses
Sokka is in the same boat as Katara, they are supposed to have a more islander tan/olive skin tone thing goin on, not pasty white folks.
their Zuko... oh lord sad time.
The only one I like at all is their Aang.
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:13 am
darklord_avalon I hate their ineptitude at choosing actors >Otheir Katara was a crap choice, I mean your telling me there wasn't at least a tan girl in their choice of actresses Sokka is in the same boat as Katara, they are supposed to have a more islander tan/olive skin tone thing goin on, not pasty white folks. their Zuko... oh lord sad time. The only one I like at all is their Aang. Ava i want to quote you something from the casting call for that movie "Currently casting for Last Airbender, we are looking for all ethnicities but primary young Caucasian children will take priority." I am not kidding they had tons of people try out for the part's, but they choose the white kids because apparently this movie is about how white people fight middle eastern people....omg it's like a simile from a war i know in real life.... yeah, thats my take on things.
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:09 pm
Devocrew darklord_avalon I hate their ineptitude at choosing actors >Otheir Katara was a crap choice, I mean your telling me there wasn't at least a tan girl in their choice of actresses Sokka is in the same boat as Katara, they are supposed to have a more islander tan/olive skin tone thing goin on, not pasty white folks. their Zuko... oh lord sad time. The only one I like at all is their Aang. Ava i want to quote you something from the casting call for that movie "Currently casting for Last Airbender, we are looking for all ethnicities but primary young Caucasian children will take priority." I am not kidding they had tons of people try out for the part's, but they choose the white kids because apparently this movie is about how white people fight middle eastern people....omg it's like a simile from a war i know in real life.... yeah, thats my take on things. ... WTF @_@ I was pretty sure Avatar: the last air bender, had more of a message about how if everyone works together then they can stop whatever evil force wants to take over and have real peace. (something along those lines) not... whatever M.nightshaggyballs morphed it into. gads I hate that man...
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:18 pm
darklord_avalon I hate their ineptitude at choosing actors >Otheir Katara was a crap choice, I mean your telling me there wasn't at least a tan girl in their choice of actresses Sokka is in the same boat as Katara, they are supposed to have a more islander tan/olive skin tone thing goin on, not pasty white folks. their Zuko... oh lord sad time. The only one I like at all is their Aang. I really don't get the hate over the skin color, it's rather irrelevant to the story. This is the same thing that irked me with complaints about the dragon ball movie, complain about the story, the acting, the graphics, etc, but not the actors skin color. Goku was not Asian, he was saiyajin, similarly the characters in the movie where not any specific ethnicity. The acting was not great but it wasn't terrible, and out of all the complaints of the movie this should have been last on peoples list of complaints. Worked at a theatre for some time and one thing I learned was never compaire a movie to it's original content. Watch it and judge it as if its' a completely seperate work, if you enjoyed it great, if you didn't then that's fine as well, but whenever you try to compare it to what it came from you will almost always be dissapointed. The only acceptations for me to this was kick a** and watchmen, bother where good when held in light of there original counterparts.
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:22 pm
darklord_avalon Devocrew darklord_avalon I hate their ineptitude at choosing actors >Otheir Katara was a crap choice, I mean your telling me there wasn't at least a tan girl in their choice of actresses Sokka is in the same boat as Katara, they are supposed to have a more islander tan/olive skin tone thing goin on, not pasty white folks. their Zuko... oh lord sad time. The only one I like at all is their Aang. Ava i want to quote you something from the casting call for that movie "Currently casting for Last Airbender, we are looking for all ethnicities but primary young Caucasian children will take priority." I am not kidding they had tons of people try out for the part's, but they choose the white kids because apparently this movie is about how white people fight middle eastern people....omg it's like a simile from a war i know in real life.... yeah, thats my take on things. ... WTF @_@ I was pretty sure Avatar: the last air bender, had more of a message about how if everyone works together then they can stop whatever evil force wants to take over and have real peace. (something along those lines) not... whatever M.nightshaggyballs morphed it into. gads I hate that man... Did you see the movie? The movie had the exact same message the series did. A lot of people are judging this film and what it was based upon without actually seeing it. Literally the ONLY things he changed was 1: the pace, 2: the pronunciation of names, and 3: that fire benders now need fire to bend from (ie they can't create it unless they're absolute masters of fire bending). Again the only real flaw with this movie was how it was scrunched into a 2 hour time slot, if it had been 2-3 movies it would have been exactly like a live adaptation of the series.
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:50 pm
nope DBL, the choice of actors/actresses still suck xP
not just ethnicity, I don't like those actors. specifically the Katara actress.
its compounding really, I don't like the actress, and I don't like who they cast her as, so yea.
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:54 pm
Dark Bunny Lord darklord_avalon Devocrew darklord_avalon I hate their ineptitude at choosing actors >Otheir Katara was a crap choice, I mean your telling me there wasn't at least a tan girl in their choice of actresses Sokka is in the same boat as Katara, they are supposed to have a more islander tan/olive skin tone thing goin on, not pasty white folks. their Zuko... oh lord sad time. The only one I like at all is their Aang. Ava i want to quote you something from the casting call for that movie "Currently casting for Last Airbender, we are looking for all ethnicities but primary young Caucasian children will take priority." I am not kidding they had tons of people try out for the part's, but they choose the white kids because apparently this movie is about how white people fight middle eastern people....omg it's like a simile from a war i know in real life.... yeah, thats my take on things. ... WTF @_@ I was pretty sure Avatar: the last air bender, had more of a message about how if everyone works together then they can stop whatever evil force wants to take over and have real peace. (something along those lines) not... whatever M.nightshaggyballs morphed it into. gads I hate that man... Did you see the movie? The movie had the exact same message the series did. A lot of people are judging this film and what it was based upon without actually seeing it. Literally the ONLY things he changed was 1: the pace, 2: the pronunciation of names, and 3: that fire benders now need fire to bend from (ie they can't create it unless they're absolute masters of fire bending). Again the only real flaw with this movie was how it was scrunched into a 2 hour time slot, if it had been 2-3 movies it would have been exactly like a live adaptation of the series. I think at the very least the movie should be 2.5 hours, just to feel like it wasn't rushed. After all, the series itself was 30.5, 10 hours in each season with season three having 10.5 because of the 21st episode (which was epic!). May I suggest that you watch the series to compare it to the movie or vice versa. No movie based on an animated fantasy / fiction can be accurate unless its historical fiction namely because of all the special effects involved. Especially when that animated work is so hard to duplicate in real life as Avatar: The Last Airbender probably would be. Think of all the elements that would have to be drawn out just to make it accurate to story context, much less the staging / background work. I'm just saying that their choices could have been better and their delivery could have been different but all in all we have to approach it subjectively...
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 12:56 pm
WOooOW! I still haven't seen the movie. Based on you guys' reviews, i might as well watch it online. o_o
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:04 pm
mysticaldragonmastergurl I think at the very least the movie should be 2.5 hours, just to feel like it wasn't rushed. After all, the series itself was 30.5, 10 hours in each season with season three having 10.5 because of the 21st episode (which was epic!). May I suggest that you watch the series to compare it to the movie or vice versa. No movie based on an animated fantasy / fiction can be accurate unless its historical fiction namely because of all the special effects involved. Especially when that animated work is so hard to duplicate in real life as Avatar: The Last Airbender probably would be. Think of all the elements that would have to be drawn out just to make it accurate to story context, much less the staging / background work. I'm just saying that their choices could have been better and their delivery could have been different but all in all we have to approach it subjectively... I had seen the whole series far before the movie came out. My point was one should NEVER compare a movie to it's original content. Why? Because again your bound to be dissapointed and very likely to miss out on something good. I can't count how many times I heard people say "that wasn't nearly as good as the book" when the movie was still great even if not as good as the book, but they get stuck on that down note instead of taking the content of the film for what it was.
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:29 pm
Dark Bunny Lord mysticaldragonmastergurl I think at the very least the movie should be 2.5 hours, just to feel like it wasn't rushed. After all, the series itself was 30.5, 10 hours in each season with season three having 10.5 because of the 21st episode (which was epic!). May I suggest that you watch the series to compare it to the movie or vice versa. No movie based on an animated fantasy / fiction can be accurate unless its historical fiction namely because of all the special effects involved. Especially when that animated work is so hard to duplicate in real life as Avatar: The Last Airbender probably would be. Think of all the elements that would have to be drawn out just to make it accurate to story context, much less the staging / background work. I'm just saying that their choices could have been better and their delivery could have been different but all in all we have to approach it subjectively... I had seen the whole series far before the movie came out. My point was one should NEVER compare a movie to it's original content. Why? Because again your bound to be dissapointed and very likely to miss out on something good. I can't count how many times I heard people say "that wasn't nearly as good as the book" when the movie was still great even if not as good as the book, but they get stuck on that down note instead of taking the content of the film for what it was. That point aside, the Harry Potter Movies thus far have been pretty good and I have read all seven books so I think it would be safe to say I have previous fandom experience with such things. I think you make a good point though... But what even got us into this debate to begin with? Oh well, next subject up on the docket?
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Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:33 pm
I understand what your saying DBL and yes you are right the movie should stand in it's own right thats why they did change the name and took off Avatar, it is M night's vision of the sires and we should judge it for the way it is, it's not Avatar, but it could have been much worse.
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