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 Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:05 pm
I.Am Thanks Adrian. sweatdrop Good thing I checked the posts before doing it myself. xd
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:13 pm
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:16 pm
Pfft.
Since when have I ever listened to a lesbian?
I ain't gonna start now.
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:17 pm
You're just jealous because I own Andy.
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:23 pm
Beware the Jabberwock You're just jealous because I own Andy.
ninja
By the by, I recently found out that one of my old stoner friends from back up north is pregnant. She has quite the reputation for promiscuousness, so I didn't know what she was going to do. So I asked her a question that is all too common to ask these days.
"Well, are you going to keep it?"
I asked this mostly because the father is someone I know who, despite how nice he often is, doesn't seem like accountability for a child is a big concern of ******** yes. I don't care if James wants to be involved or not, I'm not going to kill my baby."
I felt so proud of the fact that she's my friend. Anyone who has her lifestyle, and is willing to undergo such drastic changes for the life of another person has to be seen as beautiful.
heart
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:27 pm
Mcphee Beware the Jabberwock You're just jealous because I own Andy.
ninja Don't let the scary gay man get me! Quote: That remains to be seen.
By the by, I recently found out that one of my old stoner friends from back up north is pregnant. She has quite the reputation for promiscuousness, so I didn't know what she was going to do. So I asked her a question that is all too common to ask these days.
"Well, are you going to keep it?"
I asked this mostly because the father is someone I know who, despite how nice he often is, doesn't seem like accountability for a child is a big concern of ******** yes. I don't care if James wants to be involved or not, I'm not going to kill my baby."
I felt so proud of the fact that she's my friend. Anyone who has her lifestyle, and is willing to undergo such drastic changes for the life of another person has to be seen as beautiful.
heart That is beautiful 3nodding heart
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 1:56 pm
Mcphee Beware the Jabberwock You're just jealous because I own Andy.
ninja
By the by, I recently found out that one of my old stoner friends from back up north is pregnant. She has quite the reputation for promiscuousness, so I didn't know what she was going to do. So I asked her a question that is all too common to ask these days.
"Well, are you going to keep it?"
I asked this mostly because the father is someone I know who, despite how nice he often is, doesn't seem like accountability for a child is a big concern of ******** yes. I don't care if James wants to be involved or not, I'm not going to kill my baby."
I felt so proud of the fact that she's my friend. Anyone who has her lifestyle, and is willing to undergo such drastic changes for the life of another person has to be seen as beautiful.
heart That is great. Its really refreshing to hear about people who have responsiblity, and even if it flies in the face of their lifestyle, that they wont give in to societal pressures and do what they feel is right. Its sad how many abortions you hear about that were coerced in some form or fashion. Even if she decides to give her baby up, she will always be able to live with the idea that she gave of herself to support a new human life.
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:04 pm
Mcphee Beware the Jabberwock You're just jealous because I own Andy.
ninja
By the by, I recently found out that one of my old stoner friends from back up north is pregnant. She has quite the reputation for promiscuousness, so I didn't know what she was going to do. So I asked her a question that is all too common to ask these days.
"Well, are you going to keep it?"
I asked this mostly because the father is someone I know who, despite how nice he often is, doesn't seem like accountability for a child is a big concern of ******** yes. I don't care if James wants to be involved or not, I'm not going to kill my baby."
I felt so proud of the fact that she's my friend. Anyone who has her lifestyle, and is willing to undergo such drastic changes for the life of another person has to be seen as beautiful.
heart
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:13 pm
Penguin Spoon Mcphee Beware the Jabberwock You're just jealous because I own Andy.
ninja
By the by, I recently found out that one of my old stoner friends from back up north is pregnant. She has quite the reputation for promiscuousness, so I didn't know what she was going to do. So I asked her a question that is all too common to ask these days.
"Well, are you going to keep it?"
I asked this mostly because the father is someone I know who, despite how nice he often is, doesn't seem like accountability for a child is a big concern of ******** yes. I don't care if James wants to be involved or not, I'm not going to kill my baby."
I felt so proud of the fact that she's my friend. Anyone who has her lifestyle, and is willing to undergo such drastic changes for the life of another person has to be seen as beautiful.
heart That is great. Its really refreshing to hear about people who have responsiblity, and even if it flies in the face of their lifestyle, that they wont give in to societal pressures and do what they feel is right. Its sad how many abortions you hear about that were coerced in some form or fashion. Even if she decides to give her baby up, she will always be able to live with the idea that she gave of herself to support a new human life.
I mean, I know so many girls down there who have just given into the pressure, and the easy answer of abortion, because they know that the father of their child wouldn't give any concern to the baby, and doesn't want it.
They have such high STD rates up there, too. Isolated Northern communities are not innocent hamlets, at all.
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 2:23 pm
Penguin Spoon Talon-chan Broorel So my husband said "why dont we take a break from talking about abortion, just this one day" and I immediatly started sobbing about the murder of children...I don't know why abortion gets to me like it does. Please don't take this the wrong way... but Do you talk about Sudan, the Conga, the unjust killing of women in the middle east, or war torn countries where countless people (children included) die every day with your husband? Why not? I imagine because it would be quite emotionally draining. I understand your conviction to the abortion cause, however to a loved one or a spouse mourning every single day for something that you as an individual most likely will not have a gigantic impact on (unless you go off to become the next Martin Luther King) can be tiring. If your husband does not have the same strong convictions against abortion that you do, I worry you might be hurting your relationship. He might feel that your morning over the murder of children because he wouldn't talk about it one day (presuming that his manner of saying it implies you talk about it nearly every day) may seem the same to him as your wanting to talk about wars in far off countries all the time and then mourn the deaths of innocents when he doesn't want to be emotionally drained by talking about war. As is true with all relationships... you ought to talk to him about it. Communication with your spouse will help pretty much any situation where one or both of you feel something isn't right. Communication? I thought sex was the most important bonding experience not this "communication" thing! Anyways, no Ive felt the most adamant about this topic in our relationship, Ive just studied it and argued it for so long I wanted to take a little break. It wasnt hurting our relationship. And yes my wife does talk about starving children and so forth all the time, and I love her for that. I dont mean to offend....but honestly weve been married for a while and I think weve got this whole "communication" thing figured out. smile We know what were doing. Just because we are Prolife it doesnt make us a couple of immature kids who need internet advice from a stranger who knows nothing about us on how to make our relationship better. Again, I dont mean to offend, just saying. smile I didn't know you guys were married, or that you were both into the debating... I was speculating the most likely situation for a gaian (and happily married isn't the first thing to come to mind, eh?). I assumed that being a gaian in generaly implied that much ;P And you must admit, if you were presented with the same situation by someone else (A significant other says "I'm tired of talking about this topic" without knowing the "we're married" bit or the "we share the same views" bit) the advice: "perhaps the topic is tiring, you should talk about the situation" is probably the best advice one could offer. I am happy for you and your wife that you're happily married. Finding someone in this world with whom you can share your life and your dreams is a wonderful thing, but I'm sure you don't need me to tell you how blessed you are ^_^. And I never meant to imply that being pro-life corrolated with or caused immaturity, and I'm not really sure how you came to that conclusion by my offering someone I knew very little about the best advice I could being presented a specific set of circumstances. If you're implying that all I say or do to anyone in this guild has the pre-requisite of me assuming pro-life equates into stupidity I can't help but feel offended. Is it your intention to make me feel unwelcome here when discussing things completely unrelated to the abortion topic? If everyone would rather me not come here, just say as much. I enjoy discussion here, but if my posts are that much of a problem that I come across as hateful when trying to offer some well-intentioned advice... I might as well not bother coming here, eh?
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:52 pm
Meh. I hate flatsales. I own the shop, so you'd think I"d like it, but really, it means three new pets to take care of. Gah. Okay, yes, I suck at changing the subject.
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:51 pm
Mcphee Beware the Jabberwock You're just jealous because I own Andy.
ninja
By the by, I recently found out that one of my old stoner friends from back up north is pregnant. She has quite the reputation for promiscuousness, so I didn't know what she was going to do. So I asked her a question that is all too common to ask these days.
"Well, are you going to keep it?"
I asked this mostly because the father is someone I know who, despite how nice he often is, doesn't seem like accountability for a child is a big concern of ******** yes. I don't care if James wants to be involved or not, I'm not going to kill my baby."
I felt so proud of the fact that she's my friend. Anyone who has her lifestyle, and is willing to undergo such drastic changes for the life of another person has to be seen as beautiful.
heart I'm glad she doesn't want to abort ( she can think about adoption, that might be the best thing but still her choice) and know the truth, abortion kills children, yes childeren ( in the sense of off-spring not age). I don't get how people don't realize that or that it's a baby inside like it or not (sorry it's not a leach or worm, it's a baby). Well I hope e-bay starts working for me soon (it's been given me problems) and I need to start sewing my costumes soon but too lazy -_-
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:50 pm
People make me so mad. People keeping saying that death isn't the worst can happen (umm, hello? It is! Once your dead your dead. Even if there was reincarnation, your not going to come back alive, they be someone else) and cause of that and the fact fetuses can't think they think it's o.k. to abort. The stupidest thing I ever heard, their not even worth my time.
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:10 pm
sad Here's the logic I don't get. "We're not sure if it can think, so we're going to take the easiest way out, not the safest." Then there are the people who say death is better than being handicapped. Which is oh-so-considerate to handicapped people. "You'd be better off dead. If I had my way, you would've never existed because you aren't normal." My mom ended up in a wheelchair at 32 years of age. If while her mom was pregnant someone had known that it would happen, would it have been a good excuse to abort her? If someone knew I was going to have Lyme disease when I was twelve, would that have been okay? How about my friend who almost died when she was three months old? If the doctors had known all these things would happen, would that be a good reason to abort? How about someone who's suffering from depression? Is that a good reason to abort someone? Where does the line get drawn? Depression can lead to suicide, which is pretty deadly. Rather than have someone go through it, if you know they'll be depressed, shouldn't it be okay to abort them? Oh wait, that already is a reason, my mistake. "The child will have a bad life, so let's kill him."
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Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:21 pm
Talon-chan I didn't know you guys were married, or that you were both into the debating... I was speculating the most likely situation for a gaian (and happily married isn't the first thing to come to mind, eh?). I assumed that being a gaian in generaly implied that much ;P And you must admit, if you were presented with the same situation by someone else (A significant other says "I'm tired of talking about this topic" without knowing the "we're married" bit or the "we share the same views" bit) the advice: "perhaps the topic is tiring, you should talk about the situation" is probably the best advice one could offer. I am happy for you and your wife that you're happily married. Finding someone in this world with whom you can share your life and your dreams is a wonderful thing, but I'm sure you don't need me to tell you how blessed you are ^_^. And I never meant to imply that being pro-life corrolated with or caused immaturity, and I'm not really sure how you came to that conclusion by my offering someone I knew very little about the best advice I could being presented a specific set of circumstances. If you're implying that all I say or do to anyone in this guild has the pre-requisite of me assuming pro-life equates into stupidity I can't help but feel offended. Is it your intention to make me feel unwelcome here when discussing things completely unrelated to the abortion topic? If everyone would rather me not come here, just say as much. I enjoy discussion here, but if my posts are that much of a problem that I come across as hateful when trying to offer some well-intentioned advice... I might as well not bother coming here, eh? Sorry if I came across rude but it was my immediate reaction when I see you come in and tell my wife how to run our marriage and criticize her convictions when she was just comiserating with someone about the tiring nature of the whole abortion debacle. And Im sorry, but when the precursor to the advice to a total stranger based on no real information was an assumption that my wife ONLY cares about abortion (which was already condescending in the first place) I do not feel that I am largely unjustified in taking your "advice" to be in the context that my wife is not really deep enough to have a serious relationship. I respect you a whole lot more than nearly any pro-choice person Ive known and dont take what Im saying the wrong way, but whatever your intentions were you have to realize that by taking a small offhand comment from my wife and assuming A) she is vapid, only caring about abortion because it happens to bother her, and not caring about other serious maladies in the world and B) there is a lack of communication in our marriage (although granted you did not know her husband happened to be me, which of course I dont blame you for, Im suprised ANYONE knew we were married save lymelady and possibly pyro) you are putting yourself across in an agressive manner, even if it was unintended. I most definitely do not want you to leave this forum as I feel we need some levelheaded members of the prochoice movement, especially those who are open to all ideas like you are. But you have to realize how strong you came on by reacting to my wifes post. Its usually a bad way to start a post to someone youve never spoken to before with "Please dont take this the wrong way...but" Anyways also Ive had a fever of 102 and couldnt call in to work because so many people called in "sick" with hangovers so Im really shreded. Sorry if that post or my earlier one sounded ruder than it was intended to. smile
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