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 Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:27 pm
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:31 pm
I dunno. Its hard to really say what is and is not in some cases.
I try to place myself at Episode IV, so that I can say the past of this is this, and the future of this will be this...
But if one was strictly limited to the novels of the six movies, one would have much less to work with. Such as the Y-wing's historic battles, something which is EU.
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:51 pm
sigh. no one ever reads the guide.
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:52 pm
I work for the guide. I'm the OGG's version of Ford Prefect!
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:54 pm
and your contributions are invaluable. this goes without question. Im just saying no one ever reads the damn thing.
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:56 pm
I do! Hudson does! Gunnie... can't read....
Its worth the effort that's put into it. Speaking of which, I should post more on the AT-PT and the AT-ST...
at-st yeah. the AT PT however was an engineering dead end.
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:06 pm
Nelowulf I do! Hudson does! Gunnie... can't read.... Its worth the effort that's put into it. Speaking of which, I should post more on the AT-PT and the AT-ST... at-st yeah. the AT PT however was an engineering dead end.
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 2:14 pm
It was never given battlefield time, and when most of them were stuck on the Katana fleet, they just gave up.
It just got bad luck. Even though it saved han and chewy's a**, when they used a pair of them to destroy like... 500 of the ressurrected Emperor's spacetroopers.
Not to mention, the ST and AT were both designed off it, so it must have had some good qualities to talk about.
The only problem is that its niche was defined, almost too well.
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:23 pm
Cale Darksun sigh. no one ever reads the guide. I've read everything written by Douglas Adams. Including that weird fish book, Without a Salmon of a Doubt. Why is my first post in a star wars thread about Hitchhiker's Guide...? Must go waste space in other threads!! *scuttles off*
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:28 pm
demagoguery Cale Darksun sigh. no one ever reads the guide. I've read everything written by Douglas Adams. Including that weird fish book, Without a Salmon of a Doubt. Why is my first post in a star wars thread about Hitchhiker's Guide...? Must go waste space in other threads!! *scuttles off* You misinterpet. The Guide is not the guide. The Guide, the HHGG, is either HHGG or symbolized by having a capital Guide. the guide is our outlaw version of it.
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:19 pm
Quote: It just got bad luck. Even though it saved han and chewy's a**, when they used a pair of them to destroy like... 500 of the ressurrected Emperor's spacetroopers. It did have the bad luck to be made by the OR military (micro budget) instead of the Imperial Army (macro budget) and it was Thrawn's clone stormies, and it saved Luke and Han.
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Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:03 pm
I couldn't remember whether it was spacetroopers or clonetroopers, so I took a 50/50 guess.
Though I doubt the Empire would fund the PT anyways, as it would make the stormtrooper really lose its fear factor. I mean, instead of thousands of white clad soldiers, you instead have hundreds with a bunch of grey. No matter how good the troopers were, the primary focus would shift away, and most people would not take them as seriously.
At least, my theory on that. I mean, who knows. But I think the Empire, which was founded on fear, needs to maintain that image, or be in even deeper trouble as more and more systems gets some balls.
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:59 am
The Empire was founded on Palpatine's popularity and a Jedi assasination attempt, as well as a civil war, not fear, well, maybe fear of what would happen if the Empire wasn't founded. The Empire wouldn't have funded the PT, I think your right, but I think so because the PT was a battlefield weapon, something the Empire didn't need. Aside from Hoth, what other Ground battles can you think of that the PT could have been used in? Endor, no, terrain handling capability wasn't good enough. IN fact, the Imperial military was mostly a police force and counterinsurgency service rather than an actual field military..
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Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:21 am
The empire ruled by fear, especially when Tarkin got hold of the Reigns. But the problem was that it couldn't be solidified. Even though the Tarkin Doctrine was the framework of subjugation and considered by the Emperor's loyalists (note: the senate is seperated from this) to be the only way to govern.
The death star was supposed to be the pinnacle of the embodiment of this principal, but throughout the empire's history, they made sure that if a system did not stay in line, that it would be wiped out.
The problem was for twenty years, the senate posed a problem to absolute will. Hence, many more atrocities came out after what I call the "frying of the senate".
Still, the PT had usages, and though very little is written about the period between Episode III and IV, there was the rebellion, which basically was there ever since the Empire. The battles before A New Hope are not mentioned much, i believe.
I mean, who has heard of the battle of Ord Binnar? Yet that battle proved that the Y-wing was the backbone of the Rebellion.
Whose to say many more battles didn't occur?
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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:57 am
[quoteThe empire ruled by fear, especially when Tarkin got hold of the Reigns. But the problem was that it couldn't be solidified. Even though the Tarkin Doctrine was the framework of subjugation and considered by the Emperor's loyalists (note: the senate is seperated from this) to be the only way to govern. The death star was supposed to be the pinnacle of the embodiment of this principal, but throughout the empire's history, they made sure that if a system did not stay in line, that it would be wiped out. There is a difference between "founded on" and "ruled by" Quote: The problem was for twenty years, the senate posed a problem to absolute will. Hence, many more atrocities came out after what I call the "frying of the senate". If they hadn't gotten rid of it, it would have just continued to be a way for rebels to tell their foul propoganda to the public and the rest of the beuracracy. Notice that senators like Mon Mothma, who led the Rebellion, embittered by their loss of power because of Palpatine, opposed him at every corner. Quote: Still, the PT had usages, and though very little is written about the period between Episode III and IV, there was the rebellion, which basically was there ever since the Empire. The battles before A New Hope are not mentioned much, i believe. There was a rebellion before hte EMpire too, it was called the CIS. MAny of founding members of the Rebellion had also been members of the CIS, or had been sympethetic to them. And I think there were no large scale battles before ANH where hte PT would have been useful. Quote: I mean, who has heard of the battle of Ord Binnar? Yet that battle proved that the Y-wing was the backbone of the Rebellion. I have, it was mentioned in the Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels. And like many such battles, it was in space, I don't think there were any major ground battles. Whose to say many more battles didn't occur?
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