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To tell ya the truth it does hurt because we're watching them send thereselves to hell...and i think you need to stop talking about God and the bible that way....God's did everything for you and yet you talk about God like this..you should be ashamed...but you are forgiven by God if you want it.....

The only reason I think it's OK to be gay is that God made all people, including homosexuals. They don't choose their sexuality, it would be like asking a baby to choose its gender. I think it's awful to condemn people as sinners for something they didn't choose to become - what if, for example, the Bible had instead said that being Black (Or white, or Asian, etc.) was a sin? It would be just awful in its implications.

Besides, there are many gay Christians that follow God's word just like everyone else. God made gay people too and the proof is that they can be just as good in their ways as straight people. And in case you hadn't noticed, He hasn't rained fire on the world since then and it doesn't look like He will anytime soon. wink

This is a very "not smart" argument. God made everyone. Though this is a fact, God didnt create sin. Saying that homosexuals choose their homosexuality is like saying i didnt choose to step into the middle of the road when i saw that car coming. Just because a gay guy doesnt know exactly when he started to decide, im gonna try jimmy instead of janie, doesnt mean hes been that way for life.

And there are many gay christians...of course there are many lying christians, and many theiving christians, and many people who claim to be christians, and many rapist christians (i mean look at all the converts in jail) but that doesnt mean that what they do is right. I personally lie a lot, just because im a christian doesnt mean lying is now alright, and just because im a christian doesnt mean that ill automatically stop.

What you need to understand is that the difference between me (a christian) and someone who isnt a christian is not that i am better than them (which im not), its not that i go to church and sing in the choir and they dont...its not that i love god more or god loves me more...

THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CHRISTIAN AND NON-CHRISTIAN IS SIMPLY THAT CHRISTIANS ARE TRYING TO CHANGE THEIR LIFE TO MATCH AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO JESUS'.

Being a christian is a process not an act, yeah becoming a Christian means asking god into your heart and all, but just because you said it doesnt mean you believe it, and just because you might believe it doesnt mean you'll live it.

It is true that God would have us love above all else. Love each other as ourselves(assuming we love ourselves) and love God unconditionally as He loves us. But, God also would have us follow the law set up for us next. The laws he made were important for our well being and happieness, and by following them we not only benifit ourselves and others, but we make God happy in doing so. It is told in the story of Adam and Eve that a man and a woman are to leave their parents and become one flesh(married, in a phisical, emotional, spiritual, and (later) legal sense). Never does it claim otherwise.

Now, we all sin and God forgives us for our sins and God can and will forgive gays assuming they repent just like any other sin. To repent, is to admit that you are wrong and are willing to try to stop sinning. As a Christian, if you love God, wouldn't you want to please Him ? Wouldn't you want to return the happieness He gives you? If we do our best to follow that law, aren't we saying to Him in our actions that we love Him and want to please Him? So if God says He hates sin, shouldn't you hate it also, or at least try not to do what He hates? Trying to do as God asks of us the best way you can love God no matter how you try to get around it.

To start off, I must let you know that ultimately, homosexuality is a sin, and just like any other sin, homosexuality can and will be forgiven by God if they repent just like they do for any other sin. Just because that person chose(intentionally or not) to sin doesn't mean they should be condemned or not treated like any other person. We all should treat others with loving kindness and respect, regardless of their past mistakes, or how we feel about them.

Love is a natural part of us, and just the same sin is also a natural part of us. We each somehow have a desire to do something that is not part of God's plan for us. This is a result from disobeying God's command of not eating of the fruit of the the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Just because these feelings are natural doesn't mean they are moral.

When ever someone wrongs you, don't you wish ill upon them somehow? Some people actually give in to that desire and choose to get revenge on the one who wronged them. They might only think ill of them, or they could verbally abuse them, or physically hurt them and/or they're belongings, or sometimes even murder that person, and many times these actions take place before the avenger can stop and think about what they are doing. These are all natural feelings/actions/reactions to someone wronging you, does that mean its ok to choose to react that way even if you feel you can't stop yourself?

Just as we can try to prevent ourselves from killing, or hurting someone for wronging us through prayer and training ourselves, we can do the same for other sins, including homosexuality. It may be extreamely hard and painful, but just as one can quit cigarettes, one can stop being homosexual. I'm not saying both are easy, both are often physically and mentaly addicting and there are no imeadiate harmful side effects from doing them, just immediate gratifaction is attained. As we know God doesn't want us to have unhealthy habits, and He has specificly stated that homosexuality is a sin as well, so these habits are not part of God's plan and should not be thought of as such. God's plan is satisfaction and happieness in the long run, which often requires sacrifice, often the sacrifice of immediate pleasure, the same pleasure that often hurts you in the long run.

It is perfectly ok for a man to love a man, or a woman to love a woman, but homosexuality is when you choose the sexual preference of the same gender, which becomes more then just love. This act they have choosen, is what is sinful. That is why homosexuality is a choice, and that is why one can still refrain from such actions, and with prayer, they can slowly abandon those feelings that separate them from God.

Are you suggesting that being homosexual is being another race? God has never stated that a specific race is evil. That way of thinking comes from the KKK, who are actually the pawns of Satan, I kinda feel sorry for them. Even if homosexuals were another race, God would not condemn them for who they were, just what they did. If they took up their cross and followed Jesus, as He has asked, they would follow everyone else who is written in the book of life into Heaven. As for racial discrimination, the only type of that was with Jews and non-Jews. At first Jews were the only ones allowed to enter Heaven in to God's arms, but they blew it by only practicing the law and not loving and worshiping Him. So He decided to give us all a chance by sending Jesus. Now everyone, is welcome into Heaven, as long as they believe in Jesus, and all that He stands for. You may not be able to choose who you are emotionaly attached too, but you are able control your actions, and through prayer even the way your emotions are wired can change, I know from experience.

Coming from a non-christian stand point, I don't blame you. For me, I have learned much from God and the bible and I try my best to do whats right for Him. After seeing all that He has done for me and the love He has shown me, I have decieded to follow Him and His teachings. That is why I believe the things I do, it is what He wants me to do.