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You know anything about jewish study?
yes, i learn it.
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nope, i dont, i dont want to.
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no but i would want to learn
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:35 am


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the study of torah was created with the male brain in mind. anyone who has any sort of biology education knows that male and female brains function quite differently, and the torah is catered to the male's. now, this doesn't really make a difference on the simple level- after all, reading a book isn't so hard, is it? but when it gets deeper, the difference appears. gemara, even on the simple level, is rather deep, and very hard to understand. tanach (the bible, consisting of the pentateuch, prophets, and writtings) on the other hand, is not so hard to understand on the simple level, and rashi helps. women are encouraged to learn what pertains to them, ie, halachos of shabbos, kosher, niddah, etc.


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yeah,

like in the talmud they explain thing really deep like for example:

there are "pesokim" in the torah talking about safe-keeping so the gamara learns from them this (i wont explain how is too long):
there are 4 types of ways for the item to be taken away(there are levels): 1)the safe-keeper didnt keep it safe well and it was stolen or taken away (bruned ect...)
2)he kept it safe well, and it got taken away.
3)it was taken away from him by with no outside control.
4)(this is got to be a animal) it died on account of work (not too hard).

so they also take 3 kinds of safe-keepers with levels:
1)a unpaid safe-keeper: he is obligated to pay for the loss of the object (that was taken away)
only if he didnt keep it safe well.
2)a paid safe-keeper: he is obligated to pay for the loss of the object not only if he didnt keep it safe well but even kept it safe well.
3)borrower: he has to pay not only if he didnt keep it safe well and not only that but if he did keep it safe and even if the object was taken away withot outside control. (he is free of pay if it died of normal work.)

but the talmud asks about the borrower: it says in the "pasuk" in the bible only that he is obligated to pay if it was taken away from him with no outside control! how do you say he pays if it was taken away if he didnt keep it safe well but even if he kept it safe well!?

answer: we said "out of control" is level 3 here if for level 3 he pays, not keeping it safe and keeping it safe that they are levels 1+2 he pays for sure.

complicated huh? sweatdrop


Um. No, it doesn't seem complicated to me at all. It makes perfect sense. I'd go so far as to call this common sense, in fact, to the point that I'm wondering why anyone even felt it had to be written down, because I'd resolve any of these situations this way automatically. And I'm not a student of Talmud (yet?).
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:43 pm


nathan_ngl
This seems like the best place to put it...

Tomer and I had a siyum today of masehet beizta! Mazal tov to us! ^^ blaugh


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:15 pm


ZonkotheSane
nathan_ngl
This seems like the best place to put it...

Tomer and I had a siyum today of masehet beizta! Mazal tov to us! ^^ blaugh
ouch. that one's no fun...
It would be better to clarify that statement...

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:27 pm


nathan_ngl
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nathan_ngl
This seems like the best place to put it...

Tomer and I had a siyum today of masehet beizta! Mazal tov to us! ^^ blaugh
ouch. that one's no fun...
It would be better to clarify that statement...
this day, that day.....if this, then that, if that, then this. and oy, chickens.
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