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 Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 9:55 am
Best: Canas
Worst: Sophia
This is pretty much going the same line as to what I said about fighters.
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:37 pm
Best: Canas ( heart )
Worst: Sophia
I haven't played through SoS in it's entirety yet, but... well.... Sophia.
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:04 pm
I can't vote cause I don't recall using any Dark Magic.
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:08 pm
Best: Canas: Out of the top three in mind, I think the fact that he's the only playable one of his kind in his game makes him more valuable a unit than Rei or Niime, who share a game and thus usage.
Worst: ......Sophia.
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:20 pm
Best: Canas. Hands down. And really, how many times has anyone played FE 7 and NOT used him?
Worst: Knoll. So little defense . . . I'll just use Ewan if I want a Druid/Summoner, kthnx.
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:23 pm
Suisho Tomoe Best: Canas. Hands down. And really, how many times has anyone played FE 7 and NOT used him? Worst: Knoll. So little defense . . . I'll just use Ewan if I want a Druid/Summoner, kthnx. Actually, when I first started the game, I used him at the beginning, then he fell behind the others. After a couple runthroughs, I finally realized: Hey, he is my only shaman. I may as well give him a s**t. Then I finally realized how amazing he was.
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:33 pm
Queen Melethia Dagon Manic Martini Lolwut, your dependance on the SNES games is hurting you here. There's more to FE than Jugdral, you know. Best: Rei Niime Worst: Sophia Dark Magic users are quite sparse in the series, so it's slimmer pickings than usual. And not to step on anybody's toes, but they're overrated. They have access to some fun tomes, yeah, but as units, they're generally not spectacular or anything. But Canas, Rei, and Ewan get hailed by people as fantastic, when the first two are rather average (you KNOW you can list plenty of units that are better than them) while Ewan is quite trashy from a debating standpoint. For best, I really couldn't decide between Rei, Canas, and Niime. Yes, Niime. I suppose Salem could compete with them, too, but he's just… there. Nothing TOO special (you're going to want him to use Wind magic whenever possible like all your other magic units anyway). Rei and Canas are both good units (they're not terribly impressive, to be honest, but they're definitely reliable and can get the job done), while Niime is great for all sorts of things that other people aren't. I was originally giving it to Rei, who has better speed, avoid, and infinitely better and more reasonable support options in comparison with Canas having access to a somewhat better starting time and Luna (and Luna is nice, but it's so situational). But then it occured to me that Niime has utility that neither of them can match, and excellent weapon ranks (she's frail, but Nosferatu fixes any durability issues). You can actually warp skip chapters FE5-style with Niime which is something practically no one else can do (best Physic user, too) and almost guarantees you can take advantage of Apocalypse if you want to (sure Ray can, but you have to push for that weapon rank, and you might not use Rei in a certain runthrough, but you can always just decide to pick up Niime when she joins). Plus, she doesn't cost a Guiding Ring (which actually matters in FE6 than usual, since you only get two in a reasonable time frame that you don't have to buy yourself and they're probably going to a healer and Anima user. For worst, Knoll and Pelleas might have unfortunate joining situations, but they've got NOTHING on the hole Sophia is in. Absolutely abysmal joining stats (TWO skl and the least accurate magic type? REALLY?, tragic defenses, and an attack spd of 1-2 depending on what tome she's using). Possibly the worst "Est-type" ever. Definitely among the worst of them, at least.
This is the formula for accuracy = Weapon Hit + (Skill x 2) + (Luck / 2) + Support bonus + Weapon triangle bonus + S Rank bonus
When you get him in chapter 15 he does have flux on him. Flux's weapon hit is 80. Knoll's base skill is 9. His luck is 0. and when starting out no support or S rank bonus and he gets +/- 15 depending on if he takes on light or anima magic users. so at best against anima users he has a hit of 113 and at worst against light magic users 83 which is kinda low not even taking into account the enemy's avoid.Knoll's certainly bad, too. But with Flux, he has 98 hit neutrally. Sophia starts with 75 hit, considering FE6's Flux only has a hit rate of 70. In a harder game, that's all the worse.
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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:30 pm
Belzayne Suisho Tomoe Best: Canas. Hands down. And really, how many times has anyone played FE 7 and NOT used him? Worst: Knoll. So little defense . . . I'll just use Ewan if I want a Druid/Summoner, kthnx. Actually, when I first started the game, I used him at the beginning, then he fell behind the others. After a couple runthroughs, I finally realized: Hey, he is my only shaman. I may as well give him a s**t. Then I finally realized how amazing he was.
Although being able to summon two ghost units/thingies is so much fun. [/easily amused]
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:09 am
I know this has absolutely nothing to do with anything, but I can't help but feel like Druids in SS got the short end of the stick partially because Bishops are so badass in that game. Who wants to use unlucky Knoll when you can have a Natasha, Artur, or Moulder with slayer? And you get all of them before you even have to choose a sibling.
I used Knoll once because I like Dark Magic and I would rather level up that latecomer late then level up the slightly less late latecomer Ewan. He isn't half bad. And having a summoner on board was fun and different. He just isn't anything compared to a Natasha with Slayer.
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:45 am
On Summoners - I loved the design and addition of them, and I also love that you can actually utilize disposable units using them (obviously something that is not the norm in Fire Emblem). However, while I always do make Knoll a Summoner (because I always use him given that he is the only Shaman you get), he's not very useful to me in battle. Basically, Knoll is average in utility and a bit of a novelty to have on your team as a Summoner.
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:07 pm
Suisho Tomoe Best: Canas. Hands down. And really, how many times has anyone played FE 7 and NOT used him?Truthfully, plenty of times. Being the only person of your class doesn't make you an instant addition. He's unfortunately got to compete with Erk, Lucius, Serra, and Priscilla for unpromoted magic users who need and want the early Guiding Rings. And in a party of about 12 people, as much as I like magic users, fitting that many people is being excessive at times. He's pretty good, but so is every other magic user you get early on in that game.
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:13 pm
Manic Martini Suisho Tomoe Best: Canas. Hands down. And really, how many times has anyone played FE 7 and NOT used him?Truthfully, plenty of times. Being the only person of your class doesn't make you an instant addition. He's unfortunately got to compete with Erk, Lucius, Serra, and Priscilla for unpromoted magic users who need and want the early Guiding Rings. And in a party of about 12 people, as much as I like magic users, fitting that many people is being excessive at times. He's pretty good, but so is every other magic user you get early on in that game.
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:58 pm
I tend to not end up using Serra and Priscilla at all because of the fact of them being staff users and they can't fight back. So really I only have 3 competing for promotion and not 5.
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:37 pm
Suisho Tomoe Manic Martini Suisho Tomoe Best: Canas. Hands down. And really, how many times has anyone played FE 7 and NOT used him?Truthfully, plenty of times. Being the only person of your class doesn't make you an instant addition. He's unfortunately got to compete with Erk, Lucius, Serra, and Priscilla for unpromoted magic users who need and want the early Guiding Rings. And in a party of about 12 people, as much as I like magic users, fitting that many people is being excessive at times. He's pretty good, but so is every other magic user you get early on in that game. Yeah, it really does come down to personal preference, much like how Mel doesn't care for healing-only units. I'm partial to using either Serra or Priscilla (and sometimes, though rarely, both), practically always Lucius, Erk most of the time (even if I don't plan on keeping him), and sometimes Canas. He's about as likely to get a spot as a healer is when I'm only using one. The lower the difficulty of the mode, the more likely I am to use him; the higher it is, the less likely. The only magic user almost always guaranteed a spot for me is Pent. Still an awful lot of gaming without Canas. As for Limstella... Killers make short work of almost anyone on the right person with the right supports ;D
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Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 7:45 pm
I personally love Priscilla as a healer. Her avoid and anima as a Valkryie is formidable, though not as good as Clarine's. Still, Priscilla is always a must for me. Serra is a maybe.
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