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 Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 1:52 pm
You start the next row like you normally would, get the first loop on there. Do the second like you normally one, and slide the first loop over it, and off the needle. Make sure you only slide that one off, and not both. Then you have the second loop left, and you do the third loop like you normally would, slide the second over it and off the needle. (or if videos help: VIDEO!)
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:32 pm
kage no neko I'd like to point out that not all witches are Wiccan. I am a witch, but I am not (and doubt I'd ever want to be) Wiccan. Also, that Wicca IS Gardner's invention. Yes, he may have taken stuff from other paths, but he put that stuff together along with his own ideas to create HIS religion: Wicca. I honestly have no clue about his books though. Nor of whether or not Wiccans actually follow those "principles", though I know that they do follow the Ardanes, which are the set laws of Wicca. And do you have any proof at all that Gardner was a Druid or a Catholic Priest? It's not intolerance to be frustrated by those who cover their ears and go "lalalala, I can't hear you!" when being told the truth. Btw, Gardner was British. And those principles weren't written by him. Or else they'd say something about "As British Witches" instead. Sorry I'm slow to respond. True. SO many people don't realize that. I said: "...not entirely his..." meaning he plagiarized parts of it. Those principles were made by the American Council of Witches (American Federation of Witches?) in the '70s because Wicca lacked a solid definition and those beliefs were present in most groups at the time. People outside of the coven setting do not, to my knowledge, follow the Ardanes (and many don't even recognize the word). Just because rules was original does not mean that they are perfect. It's like Christianity in that respect. Protestants don't follow Catholic rules, Catholics don't follow Greek Orthodox rules, Greek Orthodox Christians don't follow Jewish law, etc. I believe I read that in Ross Nichols' biography. Apparently it is, according to this guild. People do realize what exactly fluffy bunnies are, right? It's not something to be proud of.
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 2:00 pm
What exactly did he plagiarize?
And I don't understand the differences between branches of Christianity. I've only gone to Baptist churches before (I'm looking forward to trying a Catholic church one of these days) so I don't know what the differences are between them. I just didn't enjoy the experiences I had in Baptist churches, nor did I enjoy the kinds of people who went to them. And noone can really tell me the difference between them.
I've asked a Wiccan the differences between the official branches of (btw) Wicca, and she told me a few of them, which not even Christians seem to be able to do.
So I'm not sure how to properly respond to the whole different rules. All I'm aware of is they've the same rules, the ones listed in the bible. But the other day I read a comparison between the bible and the quran, showing how the bible is actually much more violent.. and it just seems to be a whole interpretation kinda thing. How do you interpret those rules? And noone can tell me even how they interpret them differently. :<
And I don't represent the guild, nor any other party on gaia or elsewhere. I am an independent and I make my judgments off of what I've learned. If you can teach me other wise, I will go with that. But you have to be able to prove it.
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:36 pm
The fluffy bunnies thing is a joke. We know it's not something to be proud of, lol. Just poking fun at ourselves and others after so many people seemed to think we were nothing but, hehe.
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Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:32 pm
kage no neko What exactly did he plagiarize? And I don't understand the differences between branches of Christianity. I've only gone to Baptist churches before (I'm looking forward to trying a Catholic church one of these days) so I don't know what the differences are between them. I just didn't enjoy the experiences I had in Baptist churches, nor did I enjoy the kinds of people who went to them. And noone can really tell me the difference between them. I've asked a Wiccan the differences between the official branches of (btw) Wicca, and she told me a few of them, which not even Christians seem to be able to do. So I'm not sure how to properly respond to the whole different rules. All I'm aware of is they've the same rules, the ones listed in the bible. But the other day I read a comparison between the bible and the quran, showing how the bible is actually much more violent.. and it just seems to be a whole interpretation kinda thing. How do you interpret those rules? And noone can tell me even how they interpret them differently. :< And I don't represent the guild, nor any other party on gaia or elsewhere. I am an independent and I make my judgments off of what I've learned. If you can teach me other wise, I will go with that. But you have to be able to prove it. Apparently the only difference between Baptist churches and Christian/Catholic churches (besides the difference in rituals performed during services) is that Baptists were the first to start the baptism ritual, hence they were the first to say you have to be baptized to be recognized by our God...or something. That's why you see signs like "First Baptist Church."
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:53 pm
i never actually understood the differences between christianity's millions of branches.
all i know is that if you take two random christians and interrogate them about their god, it will become clear that they worship the same guy. the same cannot be said about pagans; taking two random pagans would probably result in two totally different worship styles, but still living under the same umbrella term.
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Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:08 pm
I agree. Christians and the like generally have very similar rituals. Pagans/Wiccans often differ greatly when it comes to altars, spells, ritual foods, even Gods/Goddesses. It makes me happy to have such freedom within a religion.
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Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:14 pm
pagans 1, christians 0.
for freedom with religion, that is.
i find it amusing that this country was founded on the basis of freedom of religion, and yet there's still so much oppression. i think they forgot to add "for protestant christian men" at the end of "Freedom of religion". *sigh*
happy ostara.
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Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:13 pm
kage no neko What exactly did he plagiarize? And I don't understand the differences between branches of Christianity. I've only gone to Baptist churches before (I'm looking forward to trying a Catholic church one of these days) so I don't know what the differences are between them. I just didn't enjoy the experiences I had in Baptist churches, nor did I enjoy the kinds of people who went to them. And noone can really tell me the difference between them. I've asked a Wiccan the differences between the official branches of (btw) Wicca, and she told me a few of them, which not even Christians seem to be able to do. So I'm not sure how to properly respond to the whole different rules. All I'm aware of is they've the same rules, the ones listed in the bible. But the other day I read a comparison between the bible and the quran, showing how the bible is actually much more violent.. and it just seems to be a whole interpretation kinda thing. How do you interpret those rules? And noone can tell me even how they interpret them differently. :< And I don't represent the guild, nor any other party on gaia or elsewhere. I am an independent and I make my judgments off of what I've learned. If you can teach me other wise, I will go with that. But you have to be able to prove it. Where to begin? To start, much of his material is Margaret Murray and Doreen Valiente, to name a couple. (ideas about the Burning Times, Witch Cults surviving through the ages, etc. Much of the poetry is Valiente, like the Wiccan Rede, for example). The Triple Goddess came from Oxford University students. The Great Rite is older than dirt. The athame and chalice are equally old. The "Harm None" is sort of based on old Greek philosophy (don't quote me on that). A lot of philosophical ideas come from old British texts (I know they're there, but I can't think of any good, specific examples with names of manuscripts). The coven of 13 is one of Margaret Murray's ideas. (the New Forest Coven may have been one of hers) The problem is that much of what wasn't his wasn't published, and thus we may never know exactly how much he stole. A lot of Wicca was his though, such as calling the Quarters to guard the circle (guardians of the Circle are older concepts, but the Elements being these concepts is, I think, original). Whoever suggests that the Bible is less violent than (anything else) has not read it. "You ate my apple. I'm going to curse you with painful childbirth, death, and the same to all of your descendants." "You don't believe what I do, so I'm going to kill you and your family." "You disobeyed the least significant command of God. You're going to burn in Hell for all eternity." "You did what God told you to do. Now you're going to Hell because he also told you not to." (Paraphrasing the Bible) Therein lies the problem with religious texts. How do you interpret them? How to you translate a word that has no equivalent in your language? What if a word has a double meaning? What if someone who is transcribing it makes a mistake? i think you are saying that no one can give you examples of you they are different. Read the Old Testament. Then read an English translation of the Torah. An almost greater challenge would be to find similarity.
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Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:53 pm
well, gosh, who needs an education when we have this thread here. mrgreen
the reasons why i personally don't appreciate the finer points of christianity mainly stem from all the hypocrites that practice it. jesus says "love everyone", which makes them condemn gay people, pagans, and people that want something that someone else has.
It appears to me that a lot of the rules in the bible were made up so that the church leaders could have a firm grip on the lives of their followers. all the reason that is supplied for not doing something you want to do is that you'll burn in hell. no mention at all of how bad you should feel for doing something wrong, just mindless promises of eternal suffering.
also, along the lines of christian homophobia....the bible says we should love everyone.....and god created us all in his own image....does that mean god himself is gay? why would he create some of his children in a certain way, and allow his other children to hate them for it? it's like that saying "if humans were meant to swim, they'd have been born with gills". well, if humans were meant to be straight, we wouldn't have gay tendencies.
dunno if this is relevant at all, but i needed to say it. i'm not condemning christianity with this post, merely pointing out why i don't buy it.
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 1:10 pm
Tulak Hord kage no neko What exactly did he plagiarize? Whoever suggests that the Bible is less violent than (anything else) has not read it. "You ate my apple. I'm going to curse you with painful childbirth, death, and the same to all of your descendants." "You don't believe what I do, so I'm going to kill you and your family." "You disobeyed the least significant command of God. You're going to burn in Hell for all eternity." "You did what God told you to do. Now you're going to Hell because he also told you not to." (Paraphrasing the Bible) Therein lies the problem with religious texts. How do you interpret them? How to you translate a word that has no equivalent in your language? What if a word has a double meaning? What if someone who is transcribing it makes a mistake? i think you are saying that no one can give you examples of you they are different. Read the Old Testament. Then read an English translation of the Torah. An almost greater challenge would be to find similarity. You forgot Job, Oh you are a believer and a truly good person? I will test you endlessly in different punishments instead of treating you as the honored believer you should be. Here sit in a big huge stinky rotten pile if Poo
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:09 pm
that is a good point, love to paint.
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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:01 pm
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Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 6:47 pm
i mean, i can understand a sadistic god/dess, but at least if you're pagan you can assume that you did something to offend someone, instead of thinking, "oh, so-and-so is just checking to see how much i love him. i must endure this fatal illness/tragedy/horrifc accident to prove my love!" actually, this kind of reminds me of twilight. heart
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:46 am
Aak! Twilight! Noooo! I agree. I was raised Catholic and never understood why a god would want to, as you said, sadistically test his faithful worshipers. One would think that would be the way to lose popularity, not gain it.
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