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 Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:19 pm
Maybe I've gotten too jaded after all this time, but I don't really care what I have to say and I've found that no one else can remotly compose a decient conversation anymore so it's easier to just not bother. Maybe I'll find someone to restore my faith in the compatency of humanity's literacy. Not likely, but I dare to dream.
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 4:41 pm
lol Shayme! Don't give up!
If we let the one-posters win then the whole world will go to $#17 xd
I had a storming one sided argument with an answering machine today. It was the most conversation I've had since I last logged onto Gaia! xp
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 6:37 pm
charamath sweet_abandon charamath Outcast-ghosT charamath Thanks. It was a one of a kind thing, but his family... his sister actually hacked his facebook account and made it seem like he was cheating on me... They were just really screwed up people.
that's not normal...that's mean and repulsive...
if i was her father, i would've spanked her hard on her hands untill she's learned a lesson...lol
j/k
Well, at the same time she convinced him to stop talking to me (while she constantly took him out to bars trying to set him up with her friends), so I didn't believe he was cheating, but I did start realizing that I was losing him and didn't appreciate the alienation. We used to talk every night, and she convinced him that that ment I was clingy. Didn't matter that he was the one doing the most talking. He's since stopped talking to her, but the damage was already done. We survived six-months long distance before with no problems, but throw his sister in the mix for the second time, and it goes to hell within weeks. Her dad, BTW, disowned her, and her step-dad doesn't like me either, so she recieves no discipline from anyone. Go figure, she's a lawyer. Holy ba-jeezuz! That sounds like a more sophiticated version of the Hills or a higher rated soap opera. (Actually, I've never even watch the Hills but from the way people reference it, I'm assuming it's full of useless drama and spoiled-rotten kids (i.e. his sister).) Well, if simple things like talk can drive him away then maybe things are better off apart. Well, how do you feel about him? Do you want things to work out or is it only because of his sister's influence that he changes his attitude towards you? I can't believe people can be so manipulative and selfish like that. [i hope everything works out for you.] This is getting really long- LOL! Unfortunatly, I'm finding it physically impossible to get over him. I've tried, dozens of times, but I care for him too much and I owe him so much. The thing is, I know that the person he is right now isn't the real him. We were only suppoused to be apart for one semester. I knew there was going to be problems since his sister lived there, but he swore there wouldn't be. He took an absolouty massive credit load (had to, or he wouldn't get into the school he needed for next semester) and started living on his own. He was struggeling with his Trig. class especially. I realized he wouldn't have as much time to talk, so that was fine, but I soon found out that his sister was appearing at his door several nights a week dragging him out to bars. It wasn't long before he was failing most his classes (definitly NOT like him). When his grades started slipping, he started drinking. Before long, he was an alchoholic. He would call me up at 2am, drunk, begging me to come down because he was so lonely. He dropped one of the classes and there went his dreams for the next semester. All the while, his family was pressuring him to dump me, figuring there was no way he could care about someone an (OMG) hour away. So, he dumped me end of the semester. However, it didn't end there. We still talked almost nightly, he still told me he loved me, we still visited eachother. He told me multiple times he was 'just taking a break from everyone' and 'we'll get back together' and 'I still want to marry you'. Eventually I started getting ticked about being dragged along and began demanding he make up his mind. He got it into his mind that if we got back together, I'd be 'winning' (alchohol talking here). So we've been sitting here, neither of us moving on since last May, in a virtual conundrum of stupidity until two weeks ago. Two weeks ago he visited me and I was so close to getting him back. He went home and promised to see me a few days later. A few days later, he stood me up. Turns out his step-dad had closed all the businesses, fired all the employees, drained the bank accounts and took off, leaving his mother broke. His mother was threaning suicide, and his other sister was saying she would if her mother did. His mother had been paying the rent and for college. I kinda knew this was going to happen (his step-dad was a total rat), but something in Jeff's brain just stopped clicking and he just decided to give up on everything. He told me he didn't care if his mother died! And he just stopped talking to me, moved to a new place and started drinking like a fish. Last I heard from him (a week ago) he hadn't gotten a student loan yet and was just waiting for the rent or school bills to come that he couldn't pay. So here I am, still holding on because the look I saw in his eyes two weeks ago still gives me hope that my old Jeff can find his way back, and desperatly worrying over the one person I care most about in this world. If I give up on him now, he has no one. I know he's desperatly lonely right now. What's killing me is knowing that he won't let me help, not because I can't, but because some messed-up voice in his head is convinced that everyone else is responsible for this mess and alienation is the only haven. Whew- really long....sorry
even though i've never passed through the same, i know what it feels like to be between a "together" and "dumped" state...somewhere everything depends on the love you feel for him/her...
in my case she was "i love you so much" at first, but then college started taking us apart. She had more duties than time to be with me. We passed to a state of "stand-by" for a while and as the year progressed one of her friends told her to leave me cuz as we were it wouldn't work...
so we talked and she said that there would be no future and it would be for the best...so i spent 4 days in hell waiting for a miracle; and later she said she'd try it again...and that happened in may.
i was happy again, happy to be with her, but after some time things started going wrong again, but this time there was another guy.
I can't oblige someone to be with me if she doesn't want to...so this ended about a week ago...
but what i learned about this was that my love is still there for her in any case, and if it werent there then we wouldn't have come back that time...
so i tell you, don't give him up...you might as well be there in his need. You cant help his mom or sister, maybe they deserve the bad that overcame them, for all the bad things they did to you, but God says "love thy neighbor" so don't get mad at them...
Help Jeff to get confident again...if he has nowhere to go, share your room...lol...no, seriously, i mean that if you want to save him cuz you love him, that means you have to give it all for him...there's nothing more you can do than give love, for he needs it more than anything in this world right now...
don't lose your hope, it's the only thing fueling you right now...
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:19 pm
Outcast-ghosT charamath sweet_abandon charamath Outcast-ghosT charamath Thanks. It was a one of a kind thing, but his family... his sister actually hacked his facebook account and made it seem like he was cheating on me... They were just really screwed up people.
that's not normal...that's mean and repulsive...
if i was her father, i would've spanked her hard on her hands untill she's learned a lesson...lol
j/k
Well, at the same time she convinced him to stop talking to me (while she constantly took him out to bars trying to set him up with her friends), so I didn't believe he was cheating, but I did start realizing that I was losing him and didn't appreciate the alienation. We used to talk every night, and she convinced him that that ment I was clingy. Didn't matter that he was the one doing the most talking. He's since stopped talking to her, but the damage was already done. We survived six-months long distance before with no problems, but throw his sister in the mix for the second time, and it goes to hell within weeks. Her dad, BTW, disowned her, and her step-dad doesn't like me either, so she recieves no discipline from anyone. Go figure, she's a lawyer. Holy ba-jeezuz! That sounds like a more sophiticated version of the Hills or a higher rated soap opera. (Actually, I've never even watch the Hills but from the way people reference it, I'm assuming it's full of useless drama and spoiled-rotten kids (i.e. his sister).) Well, if simple things like talk can drive him away then maybe things are better off apart. Well, how do you feel about him? Do you want things to work out or is it only because of his sister's influence that he changes his attitude towards you? I can't believe people can be so manipulative and selfish like that. [i hope everything works out for you.] This is getting really long- LOL! Unfortunatly, I'm finding it physically impossible to get over him. I've tried, dozens of times, but I care for him too much and I owe him so much. The thing is, I know that the person he is right now isn't the real him. We were only suppoused to be apart for one semester. I knew there was going to be problems since his sister lived there, but he swore there wouldn't be. He took an absolouty massive credit load (had to, or he wouldn't get into the school he needed for next semester) and started living on his own. He was struggeling with his Trig. class especially. I realized he wouldn't have as much time to talk, so that was fine, but I soon found out that his sister was appearing at his door several nights a week dragging him out to bars. It wasn't long before he was failing most his classes (definitly NOT like him). When his grades started slipping, he started drinking. Before long, he was an alchoholic. He would call me up at 2am, drunk, begging me to come down because he was so lonely. He dropped one of the classes and there went his dreams for the next semester. All the while, his family was pressuring him to dump me, figuring there was no way he could care about someone an (OMG) hour away. So, he dumped me end of the semester. However, it didn't end there. We still talked almost nightly, he still told me he loved me, we still visited eachother. He told me multiple times he was 'just taking a break from everyone' and 'we'll get back together' and 'I still want to marry you'. Eventually I started getting ticked about being dragged along and began demanding he make up his mind. He got it into his mind that if we got back together, I'd be 'winning' (alchohol talking here). So we've been sitting here, neither of us moving on since last May, in a virtual conundrum of stupidity until two weeks ago. Two weeks ago he visited me and I was so close to getting him back. He went home and promised to see me a few days later. A few days later, he stood me up. Turns out his step-dad had closed all the businesses, fired all the employees, drained the bank accounts and took off, leaving his mother broke. His mother was threaning suicide, and his other sister was saying she would if her mother did. His mother had been paying the rent and for college. I kinda knew this was going to happen (his step-dad was a total rat), but something in Jeff's brain just stopped clicking and he just decided to give up on everything. He told me he didn't care if his mother died! And he just stopped talking to me, moved to a new place and started drinking like a fish. Last I heard from him (a week ago) he hadn't gotten a student loan yet and was just waiting for the rent or school bills to come that he couldn't pay. So here I am, still holding on because the look I saw in his eyes two weeks ago still gives me hope that my old Jeff can find his way back, and desperatly worrying over the one person I care most about in this world. If I give up on him now, he has no one. I know he's desperatly lonely right now. What's killing me is knowing that he won't let me help, not because I can't, but because some messed-up voice in his head is convinced that everyone else is responsible for this mess and alienation is the only haven. Whew- really long....sorry
even though i've never passed through the same, i know what it feels like to be between a "together" and "dumped" state...somewhere everything depends on the love you feel for him/her...
in my case she was "i love you so much" at first, but then college started taking us apart. She had more duties than time to be with me. We passed to a state of "stand-by" for a while and as the year progressed one of her friends told her to leave me cuz as we were it wouldn't work...
so we talked and she said that there would be no future and it would be for the best...so i spent 4 days in hell waiting for a miracle; and later she said she'd try it again...and that happened in may.
i was happy again, happy to be with her, but after some time things started going wrong again, but this time there was another guy.
I can't oblige someone to be with me if she doesn't want to...so this ended about a week ago...
but what i learned about this was that my love is still there for her in any case, and if it werent there then we wouldn't have come back that time...
so i tell you, don't give him up...you might as well be there in his need. You cant help his mom or sister, maybe they deserve the bad that overcame them, for all the bad things they did to you, but God says "love thy neighbor" so don't get mad at them...
Help Jeff to get confident again...if he has nowhere to go, share your room...lol...no, seriously, i mean that if you want to save him cuz you love him, that means you have to give it all for him...there's nothing more you can do than give love, for he needs it more than anything in this world right now...
don't lose your hope, it's the only thing fueling you right now...Thanks. It means alot to me since my whole family seems to think I'm nuts for holding on smile I really wish he'd call me up and ask me to come down like he always did. I'd be there in a heart beat (I always did go- even when I had exams the next morning, but he stopped asking because he thought he aws using me).
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 1:21 pm
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 2:42 pm
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:08 pm
YAY! You're back!
Was missing you!
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 4:46 pm
My comp has died, and I only get to borrow this one maybe twice a week. crying
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:00 pm
charamath Outcast-ghosT charamath sweet_abandon charamath Well, at the same time she convinced him to stop talking to me (while she constantly took him out to bars trying to set him up with her friends), so I didn't believe he was cheating, but I did start realizing that I was losing him and didn't appreciate the alienation. We used to talk every night, and she convinced him that that ment I was clingy. Didn't matter that he was the one doing the most talking. He's since stopped talking to her, but the damage was already done. We survived six-months long distance before with no problems, but throw his sister in the mix for the second time, and it goes to hell within weeks. Her dad, BTW, disowned her, and her step-dad doesn't like me either, so she recieves no discipline from anyone. Go figure, she's a lawyer. Holy ba-jeezuz! That sounds like a more sophiticated version of the Hills or a higher rated soap opera. (Actually, I've never even watch the Hills but from the way people reference it, I'm assuming it's full of useless drama and spoiled-rotten kids (i.e. his sister).) Well, if simple things like talk can drive him away then maybe things are better off apart. Well, how do you feel about him? Do you want things to work out or is it only because of his sister's influence that he changes his attitude towards you? I can't believe people can be so manipulative and selfish like that. [i hope everything works out for you.] This is getting really long- LOL! Unfortunatly, I'm finding it physically impossible to get over him. I've tried, dozens of times, but I care for him too much and I owe him so much. The thing is, I know that the person he is right now isn't the real him. We were only suppoused to be apart for one semester. I knew there was going to be problems since his sister lived there, but he swore there wouldn't be. He took an absolouty massive credit load (had to, or he wouldn't get into the school he needed for next semester) and started living on his own. He was struggeling with his Trig. class especially. I realized he wouldn't have as much time to talk, so that was fine, but I soon found out that his sister was appearing at his door several nights a week dragging him out to bars. It wasn't long before he was failing most his classes (definitly NOT like him). When his grades started slipping, he started drinking. Before long, he was an alchoholic. He would call me up at 2am, drunk, begging me to come down because he was so lonely. He dropped one of the classes and there went his dreams for the next semester. All the while, his family was pressuring him to dump me, figuring there was no way he could care about someone an (OMG) hour away. So, he dumped me end of the semester. However, it didn't end there. We still talked almost nightly, he still told me he loved me, we still visited eachother. He told me multiple times he was 'just taking a break from everyone' and 'we'll get back together' and 'I still want to marry you'. Eventually I started getting ticked about being dragged along and began demanding he make up his mind. He got it into his mind that if we got back together, I'd be 'winning' (alchohol talking here). So we've been sitting here, neither of us moving on since last May, in a virtual conundrum of stupidity until two weeks ago. Two weeks ago he visited me and I was so close to getting him back. He went home and promised to see me a few days later. A few days later, he stood me up. Turns out his step-dad had closed all the businesses, fired all the employees, drained the bank accounts and took off, leaving his mother broke. His mother was threaning suicide, and his other sister was saying she would if her mother did. His mother had been paying the rent and for college. I kinda knew this was going to happen (his step-dad was a total rat), but something in Jeff's brain just stopped clicking and he just decided to give up on everything. He told me he didn't care if his mother died! And he just stopped talking to me, moved to a new place and started drinking like a fish. Last I heard from him (a week ago) he hadn't gotten a student loan yet and was just waiting for the rent or school bills to come that he couldn't pay. So here I am, still holding on because the look I saw in his eyes two weeks ago still gives me hope that my old Jeff can find his way back, and desperatly worrying over the one person I care most about in this world. If I give up on him now, he has no one. I know he's desperatly lonely right now. What's killing me is knowing that he won't let me help, not because I can't, but because some messed-up voice in his head is convinced that everyone else is responsible for this mess and alienation is the only haven. Whew- really long....sorry
even though i've never passed through the same, i know what it feels like to be between a "together" and "dumped" state...somewhere everything depends on the love you feel for him/her...
in my case she was "i love you so much" at first, but then college started taking us apart. She had more duties than time to be with me. We passed to a state of "stand-by" for a while and as the year progressed one of her friends told her to leave me cuz as we were it wouldn't work...
so we talked and she said that there would be no future and it would be for the best...so i spent 4 days in hell waiting for a miracle; and later she said she'd try it again...and that happened in may.
i was happy again, happy to be with her, but after some time things started going wrong again, but this time there was another guy.
I can't oblige someone to be with me if she doesn't want to...so this ended about a week ago...
but what i learned about this was that my love is still there for her in any case, and if it werent there then we wouldn't have come back that time...
so i tell you, don't give him up...you might as well be there in his need. You cant help his mom or sister, maybe they deserve the bad that overcame them, for all the bad things they did to you, but God says "love thy neighbor" so don't get mad at them...
Help Jeff to get confident again...if he has nowhere to go, share your room...lol...no, seriously, i mean that if you want to save him cuz you love him, that means you have to give it all for him...there's nothing more you can do than give love, for he needs it more than anything in this world right now...
don't lose your hope, it's the only thing fueling you right now...Thanks. It means alot to me since my whole family seems to think I'm nuts for holding on smile I really wish he'd call me up and ask me to come down like he always did. I'd be there in a heart beat (I always did go- even when I had exams the next morning, but he stopped asking because he thought he aws using me).
well, don't just wait there and do nothing...if you love him so much then dont wait for a call, he might be gone by the time your nerves break you down...
if i was you, then i wouldn't mind his anger or anything against me...i'd go right up to him (no that im gay or sh@#, only if i was you...errr, woman...lol) and explain all this stuff to him...
the worst thing to do is sit down and wait for things to get fixed...go ahead...dont be afraid
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:12 pm
Maester_Leoshin My comp has died, and I only get to borrow this one maybe twice a week. crying
Can it be mended?
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:14 pm
Outcast-ghosT charamath Outcast-ghosT charamath sweet_abandon charamath Well, at the same time she convinced him to stop talking to me (while she constantly took him out to bars trying to set him up with her friends), so I didn't believe he was cheating, but I did start realizing that I was losing him and didn't appreciate the alienation. We used to talk every night, and she convinced him that that ment I was clingy. Didn't matter that he was the one doing the most talking. He's since stopped talking to her, but the damage was already done. We survived six-months long distance before with no problems, but throw his sister in the mix for the second time, and it goes to hell within weeks. Her dad, BTW, disowned her, and her step-dad doesn't like me either, so she recieves no discipline from anyone. Go figure, she's a lawyer. Holy ba-jeezuz! That sounds like a more sophiticated version of the Hills or a higher rated soap opera. (Actually, I've never even watch the Hills but from the way people reference it, I'm assuming it's full of useless drama and spoiled-rotten kids (i.e. his sister).) Well, if simple things like talk can drive him away then maybe things are better off apart. Well, how do you feel about him? Do you want things to work out or is it only because of his sister's influence that he changes his attitude towards you? I can't believe people can be so manipulative and selfish like that. [i hope everything works out for you.] This is getting really long- LOL! Unfortunatly, I'm finding it physically impossible to get over him. I've tried, dozens of times, but I care for him too much and I owe him so much. The thing is, I know that the person he is right now isn't the real him. We were only suppoused to be apart for one semester. I knew there was going to be problems since his sister lived there, but he swore there wouldn't be. He took an absolouty massive credit load (had to, or he wouldn't get into the school he needed for next semester) and started living on his own. He was struggeling with his Trig. class especially. I realized he wouldn't have as much time to talk, so that was fine, but I soon found out that his sister was appearing at his door several nights a week dragging him out to bars. It wasn't long before he was failing most his classes (definitly NOT like him). When his grades started slipping, he started drinking. Before long, he was an alchoholic. He would call me up at 2am, drunk, begging me to come down because he was so lonely. He dropped one of the classes and there went his dreams for the next semester. All the while, his family was pressuring him to dump me, figuring there was no way he could care about someone an (OMG) hour away. So, he dumped me end of the semester. However, it didn't end there. We still talked almost nightly, he still told me he loved me, we still visited eachother. He told me multiple times he was 'just taking a break from everyone' and 'we'll get back together' and 'I still want to marry you'. Eventually I started getting ticked about being dragged along and began demanding he make up his mind. He got it into his mind that if we got back together, I'd be 'winning' (alchohol talking here). So we've been sitting here, neither of us moving on since last May, in a virtual conundrum of stupidity until two weeks ago. Two weeks ago he visited me and I was so close to getting him back. He went home and promised to see me a few days later. A few days later, he stood me up. Turns out his step-dad had closed all the businesses, fired all the employees, drained the bank accounts and took off, leaving his mother broke. His mother was threaning suicide, and his other sister was saying she would if her mother did. His mother had been paying the rent and for college. I kinda knew this was going to happen (his step-dad was a total rat), but something in Jeff's brain just stopped clicking and he just decided to give up on everything. He told me he didn't care if his mother died! And he just stopped talking to me, moved to a new place and started drinking like a fish. Last I heard from him (a week ago) he hadn't gotten a student loan yet and was just waiting for the rent or school bills to come that he couldn't pay. So here I am, still holding on because the look I saw in his eyes two weeks ago still gives me hope that my old Jeff can find his way back, and desperatly worrying over the one person I care most about in this world. If I give up on him now, he has no one. I know he's desperatly lonely right now. What's killing me is knowing that he won't let me help, not because I can't, but because some messed-up voice in his head is convinced that everyone else is responsible for this mess and alienation is the only haven. Whew- really long....sorry
even though i've never passed through the same, i know what it feels like to be between a "together" and "dumped" state...somewhere everything depends on the love you feel for him/her...
in my case she was "i love you so much" at first, but then college started taking us apart. She had more duties than time to be with me. We passed to a state of "stand-by" for a while and as the year progressed one of her friends told her to leave me cuz as we were it wouldn't work...
so we talked and she said that there would be no future and it would be for the best...so i spent 4 days in hell waiting for a miracle; and later she said she'd try it again...and that happened in may.
i was happy again, happy to be with her, but after some time things started going wrong again, but this time there was another guy.
I can't oblige someone to be with me if she doesn't want to...so this ended about a week ago...
but what i learned about this was that my love is still there for her in any case, and if it werent there then we wouldn't have come back that time...
so i tell you, don't give him up...you might as well be there in his need. You cant help his mom or sister, maybe they deserve the bad that overcame them, for all the bad things they did to you, but God says "love thy neighbor" so don't get mad at them...
Help Jeff to get confident again...if he has nowhere to go, share your room...lol...no, seriously, i mean that if you want to save him cuz you love him, that means you have to give it all for him...there's nothing more you can do than give love, for he needs it more than anything in this world right now...
don't lose your hope, it's the only thing fueling you right now...Thanks. It means alot to me since my whole family seems to think I'm nuts for holding on smile I really wish he'd call me up and ask me to come down like he always did. I'd be there in a heart beat (I always did go- even when I had exams the next morning, but he stopped asking because he thought he aws using me).
well, don't just wait there and do nothing...if you love him so much then dont wait for a call, he might be gone by the time your nerves break you down...
if i was you, then i wouldn't mind his anger or anything against me...i'd go right up to him (no that im gay or sh@#, only if i was you...errr, woman...lol) and explain all this stuff to him...
the worst thing to do is sit down and wait for things to get fixed...go ahead...dont be afraidThe only thing is, I don't even know where he lives. He just moved and I've never been to the new place. All I know is he lives above a nightclub in Madison. I've been thinking about just driving down there and calling him asking him to meet me in some restaraunt. IDK if he'd get really pissed and avoid me even more, though. That, and I lost my cell-phone to even call him.
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:15 pm
The thing that lights up the screen died. It is fixable, but it costs money I don't have.
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:17 pm
I should have a new phone on Thursday, though. I can try driving down there that night and pray he's not so ticked he won't meet me.
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:18 pm
Maester_Leoshin The thing that lights up the screen died. It is fixable, but it costs money I don't have.
I need some more RAM apparently. Should be funny when I try and put it in!
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:25 pm
Can never have enough RAM.
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