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419scambaiterKoko

PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:13 pm


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Kokoroki
Bloodless Amber
Kokoroki
never use "ACTUALLY" you will look like an idiot if you do
I always use that.
Why is this idiotic? eek
I do suppose they'd forgive tourists for doing that, though. XD

ya probably
but native speakers get "bopped"
What's wrong with actually? eek


it's used it to correct people (the way i use it, anyway)
or implict reason
Ie. Thats Actually not a bad idea
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:51 pm


I guess using "actually" can make you sound like a know-it-all if you use it too much.

I tend to only use it when dispelling a commonly held belief, or something.

Like,

Someone else: "Oh man, I feel nauseous..."
Me: "Actually, you feel nauseated. Nauseous means you make other people sick."

You'll just sound like a d**k if you use it in other situations, though, like the one Kokoroki just gave ("That's actually not a bad idea" -- makes it sound like you expected it to be a bad idea).

Dave


WellzY

PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 11:46 pm


As a native myself, I use 'actually' when I correct myself as well.

"I'm going out tonight. Actually no, I'm going out tomorrow night."
PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:16 am


Hmm ... I don't know how often I use "actually". I usually use something else that can easily be replaced by that word.

To steal WellzY's example, I would likely say:

"I'm going out tonight. Wait no, I'm going out tomorrow night."

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419scambaiterKoko

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:28 pm


Pistil
Hmm ... I don't know how often I use "actually". I usually use something else that can easily be replaced by that word.

To steal WellzY's example, I would likely say:

"I'm going out tonight. Wait no, I'm going out tomorrow night."

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their ya see there is no use for actually unless you intend on correcting someone
PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:21 pm


Kokoroki
Pistil
Hmm ... I don't know how often I use "actually". I usually use something else that can easily be replaced by that word.

To steal WellzY's example, I would likely say:

"I'm going out tonight. Wait no, I'm going out tomorrow night."

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their ya see there is no use for actually unless you intend on correcting someone
I see what you mean. But the way you say it would have more of an impact than the word merely being used:

Guy1: The capital of Canada is Toronto.
Guy2: Actually, it's Ottawa.
Guy1: evil

As opposed to:

Guy1: Chameleons have short tongues.
Guy2: Actually their tongues are longer than their bodies. eek
Guy1: ORLY?

*the second statement was the brainchild of my sister, since I couldn't think up another example myself*

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Alessia_Luciano

PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 6:06 pm


Was English hard for anyone else to learn? Or am I just stupid. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:12 pm


Alessia_Luciano
Was English hard for anyone else to learn? Or am I just stupid. sweatdrop

Don't worry about it. English is the hardest language in the world to learn. I'm native and I have trouble.

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Fatal Hilarity

PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:42 am


Hermonie Urameshi
Alessia_Luciano
Was English hard for anyone else to learn? Or am I just stupid. sweatdrop

Don't worry about it. English is the hardest language in the world to learn. I'm native and I have trouble.

Stop saying that all the time, it isn't the hardest language to learn. ><

Alessia_Luciano, it takes a while. Practice makes perfect. wink
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:05 am


F. Fritzi
Hermonie Urameshi
Alessia_Luciano
Was English hard for anyone else to learn? Or am I just stupid. sweatdrop

Don't worry about it. English is the hardest language in the world to learn. I'm native and I have trouble.

Stop saying that all the time, it isn't the hardest language to learn. ><

Alessia_Luciano, it takes a while. Practice makes perfect. wink

Thanks you guys. 3nodding I agree with you, Fritzi, English isn't the most difficult language to learn--but it's definitely not the easiest.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:27 am


F. Fritzi
Hermonie Urameshi
Alessia_Luciano
Was English hard for anyone else to learn? Or am I just stupid. sweatdrop

Don't worry about it. English is the hardest language in the world to learn. I'm native and I have trouble.

Stop saying that all the time, it isn't the hardest language to learn. ><

Alessia_Luciano, it takes a while. Practice makes perfect. wink

Ok so maybe it isn't the hardest. (Although English education here really sucks. >.<) Japanese is definately the hardest though...
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 4:49 pm


I'm a native english speaker. For english as a second (or third or 4th or 238th) language some parts will be easy and other parts hard. Probably being able to communicate somewhat shouldn't be too hard for most. But becoming fluent would take a looooong time.

I heard that the average native American high school graduate knows about 80,000 words. Yet for about HALF of everything said in english (according to my AP Psychology textbook last year) is done with about 150 words. I don't know if they are counting conjugations (am, are, was etc) or not though. Like I said before, I don't think it would take tooo much time learning to communicate very basic things in english. Although that time varies between native languages and individuals.

However, there are so many words that only vary slightly in their meaning. Scrawny and slim both generally mean 'skinny' but carry very different tones. I saw that the word actually was brought up here- the meaning slightly changes based on the situation- and that can be VERY frustrating at times. Also, english pronunciation is annoying.
Eve makes one sound... but if you add an 'r' both of the e's change the way they sound >_<

Best of luck to those just learning english and getting thrown off by the crazy pronunciation (and in some cases, different writing system) and to those encountering strange little nuances in the language ^^

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 6:52 pm


F. Fritzi
Hermonie Urameshi
Alessia_Luciano
Was English hard for anyone else to learn? Or am I just stupid. sweatdrop

Don't worry about it. English is the hardest language in the world to learn. I'm native and I have trouble.

Stop saying that all the time, it isn't the hardest language to learn. ><

Alessia_Luciano, it takes a while. Practice makes perfect. wink

xD I've been hanging around that thread!
PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:34 pm


From what I know of Japanese, it doesn't seem that hard. The most difficult part seems to me the difference in vocabulary and lack of cognates.

Alessia_Luciano


Fatal Hilarity

PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 3:28 am


Hermonie Urameshi
F. Fritzi
Hermonie Urameshi
Alessia_Luciano
Was English hard for anyone else to learn? Or am I just stupid. sweatdrop

Don't worry about it. English is the hardest language in the world to learn. I'm native and I have trouble.

Stop saying that all the time, it isn't the hardest language to learn. ><

Alessia_Luciano, it takes a while. Practice makes perfect. wink

Ok so maybe it isn't the hardest. (Although English education here really sucks. >.<) Japanese is definately the hardest though...

Nah, Japanese grammar is one of the easiest (it's the easiest I've ever had to learn). It's only difficult because of Kanji.
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