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Nomad Rath
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:41 pm


Though, if Ike hadn't lost his entire personality in FE10, you never know. IE might have pushed for it.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:48 pm


In order for Sothe to gain a personality every one else had to lose theirs....

*Also the crappy support system but thats for another thread*

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:41 pm


Zelym
So girls, next time you want to complain about guys liking lesbians, think before you speak and reflect upon what you yourself like, in regards to your gay males.


Ha ha, that's funny. I would never complain about guys liking lesbians, cause I like them too.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:54 pm


Nomad Rath
...You can't interpret him to be gay at all. I don't care if somebody personally wants him to be gay with Soren. There's is nothing that sets them over the friendship line. And their personalities lead them to not want any romantic relations whatsoever, boy or girl. Ignoring that is unacceptable.


You totally can. Although it's a hell of a lot easier with Soren than it is with Ike and his "I now have the personality of a rock"-syndrome. You can interpret it as a lot of things. I still maintain that both interpretations have some validity.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:35 am


Technically, one has the ability to interpret things in any manner, I suppose, but it doesn't make it a rational conclusion.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 8:38 am


For instance.

The christmas tree was invented by Nazi's Reason?: To deprive us of a valuble oxygen source and to promote deforestization in enemy lands.


^ That has about as much validity as Ike being gay

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:28 pm


Derrrrrp.

I dunno about girl x girl pairings, I shall have to pay more attention.

But I did notice a very... closeness with Eirika and Tana. Then again, Eirika can get close to everyone with her rampant Mary Sue Syndrome.

Ahem.

And I might not have said this before about Ike x Soren, but I shall say it now. My views have changed, they're just best friends in my eyes, much like Sain/Kent, Janaff/Ulki and Forde/Kyle.

:3
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:35 pm


askem2
For instance.

The christmas tree was invented by Nazi's Reason?: To deprive us of a valuble oxygen source and to promote deforestization in enemy lands.


^ That has about as much validity as Ike being gay


I get the point you and Rath are trying to make, but it IS entirely possible to make a LOGICAL argument for Ike being gay.

And here's a thought: what evidence, assuming that Ike isn't gay, is there that would suggest he's straight?

And although I interpret IkeXSoren as a pairing, the best put-together argument I ever saw concerning Ike's sexuality maintained that he was asexual.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:55 pm


Elinca.

Theres your proof right there
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:59 pm


It's really all in the eyes of the beholder. I for one am a Ike/Soren fan but if you see friendship it's fine by me. I'm depressed we lost a fan hardly two posts ago but I won't judge. Heck. I wrote a SSBB fic with Ike/Pit, Marth/Roy and Link/Soren. Want to know how that worked out? BECAUSE I MADE IT LIKE THAT!! And it WORKED. The only problem would be to say the don't really care about each other all that much and it's strictly business. THEY FREAKING LOVE EACH OTHER DANGGIT!! That's in an either friend or lover way but it should only matter to you. I see it as a closet love in the games but when the games are all said and beat the real love journey starts to fool the fangirls.

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Manic Martini

PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:13 pm


askem2
Elinca.

Theres your proof right there


Yeah, that's SOME argument. Especially when:
-Ike has a possible ending with Soren and Elincia doesn't.
-There is no sexual tension between them on Ike's part whatsoever (Elincia might have a crush on Ike, but he's 100% oblivious to it if that's the case).
-Ike's relationship with Elincia is generally that of employer-employee. He gets PAID to work for Elincia. Soren would stick with Ike even if there was no gold involved.
-Ike's the first male lord not to have an ending with a woman - that's seriously underplayed.

Seeing Ike's relationship with Soren as a friendship is one thing, but seeing Ike as straight because of Elincia is a joke.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:20 pm


In path of Raidence there is an assumed Ike + Elincia ending

And 10 didnt make sense at all.... my least liked fire emblem game for the fact that no one had a personality due to the regular supports being taken out

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:28 pm


askem2
In path of Raidence there is an assumed Ike + Elincia ending

And 10 didnt make sense at all.... my least liked fire emblem game for the fact that no one had a personality due to the regular supports being taken out


Now your POV is making sense! I forget that you're the guy who hates FE10 for whatever reasons you do.

But FE10 DOES exist. And it definitely eliminated any chances of IkeXElincia happening.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:07 pm


Like I said, it's possible for people to interpret them as lovers, but they have no logical basis for their view. Simply that they talk with each other, and are closer with each other than other characters is not enough.

Joshua, in FE9, yes, Elincia was his paring, but in FE10, that utterly changes. Ike shows no romanticisms with any character. Also, FD, Ike and Soren don't have a romantic ending. They just leave together, instead of Ike leaving by himself. There's nothing supporting them as lovers in that. *Also, I know we disagree here, FD, and it's best to avoid this subject so I'll just mention it once, that homosexuality is a choice. A choice that one cannot know unless the person outright tells you...or displays. To just assume that about somebody is completely irrational. Personally, I don't care if Ike is straight or gay, but he certainly isn't gay for Soren, nor does he have romantic feelings for any other person.

Mistress gray-freak: I'll say it now, that I mean no direct offense to you in particular. But, I despise it when people ship brawl characters together. It's absolutely inconceivable for characters like Marth and Roy, despite being from the same game series, to be lovers with each other. I cannot stop people from shipping pairings like that, or writing those boorish brawltard fanfictions, but they're still illogical and 90% of the time the handy work of immature 10-year-olds. Identifying relationships properly requires a logical foundation for making a wise determination of the facts given. Not "oh, they look good together".

Nomad Rath
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:14 pm


...... So I guess then he is asexual....

But only because FE10 was like. "Oh you have a personality do you? Mia is a fun character is she? Well not anymore!" *Tears out personality*
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