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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:15 pm


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It occurred to me that not every one in sunagakure was entirely ok with how tanto was removed granted it was a relatively bloodless transfer of power....


Who wasn't okay with it?

And if you name a genin then I'll just say that they don't matter. biggrin


Well logically it would be almost statically impossible for every person in a given population to view an event from the exact same perspective meaning possible disagreements their. And yes a genin as well....Ryumon to be specific. He simply doesn't trust the new administration yet. He's not entirely sure how well he can serve a Kazekage that he doesn't trust, and weather he is wrong or right it is just how he feels....and like you said genin don't matter right?


Well, it's like a new president, he is bound to be hated, but I hope you see that he is better suited for the job than Tanto!

@Van - You know I'm kidding!

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:16 pm


Looks like Tano's mentality is rubbing off on someone... *cough* *cough*

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:19 pm


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Looks like Tano's mentality is rubbing off on someone... *cough* *cough*


Pffft. All my characters sprout from personality traits I have therefore you can say I'm like Tanto. >.>
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:23 pm


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:24 pm


*Pants*
Finally done posting the destruction of Leaf XD
-Van
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:24 pm


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It occurred to me that not every one in sunagakure was entirely ok with how tanto was removed granted it was a relatively bloodless transfer of power....


Who wasn't okay with it?

And if you name a genin then I'll just say that they don't matter. biggrin


Well logically it would be almost statically impossible for every person in a given population to view an event from the exact same perspective meaning possible disagreements their. And yes a genin as well....Ryumon to be specific. He simply doesn't trust the new administration yet. He's not entirely sure how well he can serve a Kazekage that he doesn't trust, and weather he is wrong or right it is just how he feels....and like you said genin don't matter right?


Well, it's like a new president, he is bound to be hated, but I hope you see that he is better suited for the job than Tanto!

@Van - You know I'm kidding!

Edit: Lol @ Announcement


Well Ryumon would be the first to admit that the new Kazekage is a vast improvement over tanto in terms of temperment, tactics, and policy. but I'd have to say his biggest issue is this:

The chunin exams are some of the most important gatherings between villages. It is where the village is represented and where the next generation of shinobi can be tested and examined. It is also where the strengths of one village can expose the weakness of another. He feels that changing over at such a critical time could send the wrong message to those who might be waiting to take advantage on the slightest unrest in one of the more powerful villages. Even if there is no such unrest it can still make the village in question a target and even if attackers, be they based in military or propaganda, should fail there may still be damage done that can hurt stability down the line.

well that's how Ryumon feels anyway

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:29 pm


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*Pants*
Finally done posting the destruction of Leaf XD
-Van

Your post count has gone up somewhere around fifty posts since yesterday. xd
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:30 pm


Reaver428
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It occurred to me that not every one in sunagakure was entirely ok with how tanto was removed granted it was a relatively bloodless transfer of power....


Who wasn't okay with it?

And if you name a genin then I'll just say that they don't matter. biggrin


Well logically it would be almost statically impossible for every person in a given population to view an event from the exact same perspective meaning possible disagreements their. And yes a genin as well....Ryumon to be specific. He simply doesn't trust the new administration yet. He's not entirely sure how well he can serve a Kazekage that he doesn't trust, and weather he is wrong or right it is just how he feels....and like you said genin don't matter right?


Well, it's like a new president, he is bound to be hated, but I hope you see that he is better suited for the job than Tanto!

@Van - You know I'm kidding!

Edit: Lol @ Announcement


Well Ryumon would be the first to admit that the new Kazekage is a vast improvement over tanto in terms of temperment, tactics, and policy. but I'd have to say his biggest issue is this:

The chunin exams are some of the most important gatherings between villages. It is where the village is represented and where the next generation of shinobi can be tested and examined. It is also where the strengths of one village can expose the weakness of another. He feels that changing over at such a critical time could send the wrong message to those who might be waiting to take advantage on the slightest unrest in one of the more powerful villages. Even if there is no such unrest it can still make the village in question a target and even if attackers, be they based in military or propaganda, should fail there may still be damage done that can hurt stability down the line.

well that's how Ryumon feels anyway


Dude, I'm sure if Van wants the Sand Village destroyed it wouldn't matter how things were going, they could be rich beyond measure but once Mr. VanRiku condemns something to death it sorta dies...

~points at leaf village~ Exhibit A
~points at Yang's last invasion~ Exhibit B
~points at Cloud village~ Exhibit C

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:32 pm


Don't forget the merry old Land of Snow last year. 3nodding
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:32 pm


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Don't forget the merry old Land of Snow last year. 3nodding


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:35 pm


Of course but that isn't something Ryumon woldn't know anything about that. These are just personal reasons for a player character with no knowledge outside of the events the he's experienced or heard about.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:40 pm


Your character is looking at it very two dimensionally. It doesn't matter how HE views it, but how the other villages view it.

A village like Sound might see this as an advantageous time to attack.
A village like Leaf might see this instead as a strengthening of leadership.

While history has many indications of a change in leadership being a poor choice there are also a good deal of examples of a good change in leadership during wartime. (Particularly if the previous leader was unfit.)

A perfect example is the Neville Chamberlain/Winston Churchill switch in 1940. Kristallnacht had already occurred and the Nazi/Soviet pact was signed. War had been declared.

They know Chamberlain wouldn't be able to carry a war on his shoulders so they basically PUT Churchill in the prime minister seat.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:43 pm


VanRiku
Your character is looking at it very two dimensionally. It doesn't matter how HE views it, but how the other villages view it.

A village like Sound might see this as an advantageous time to attack.
A village like Leaf might see this instead as a strengthening of leadership.

While history has many indications of a change in leadership being a poor choice there are also a good deal of examples of a good change in leadership during wartime. (Particularly if the previous leader was unfit.)

A perfect example is the Neville Chamberlain/Winston Churchill switch in 1940. Kristallnacht had already occurred and the Nazi/Soviet pact was signed. War had been declared.

They know Chamberlain wouldn't be able to carry a war on his shoulders so they basically PUT Churchill in the prime minister seat.
-Van


Winston Churchill = heart
PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:46 pm


VanRiku
Your character is looking at it very two dimensionally. It doesn't matter how HE views it, but how the other villages view it.

A village like Sound might see this as an advantageous time to attack.
A village like Leaf might see this instead as a strengthening of leadership.

While history has many indications of a change in leadership being a poor choice there are also a good deal of examples of a good change in leadership during wartime. (Particularly if the previous leader was unfit.)

A perfect example is the Neville Chamberlain/Winston Churchill switch in 1940. Kristallnacht had already occurred and the Nazi/Soviet pact was signed. War had been declared.

They know Chamberlain wouldn't be able to carry a war on his shoulders so they basically PUT Churchill in the prime minister seat.
-Van


I agree entirely that Ryumon is looking at it two dimensionally, and great example by the way, but Ryumon while a shinobi is also a 12 year old boy so he will tend to see things as black and white on many issues based on his own personal feelings. He is stubbourn about somethings and it's a personality flaw to be sure. Call it a failing of youth and inexperience.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 4:47 pm


Jack Churchill kicked more a** cool
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