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Suyo

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:59 pm




...Wait what? I am completely confused, and this has caught me entirely out of left field.

Maybe it's that I JUST came back, but I haven't noticed a really increased level of tension. And any argument... will if it's at all related to the Guitar Hero thing, I consider that to be a friendly conversation/lively debate, far from a fight, and it's not like I am holding a grudge against anybody who doesn't agree with me or see my points as valid, people have differing opinions and value different aspects of a video game. sweatdrop I love Zero and Stream to death...

But I am adequately confused.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:13 pm


Definitely not what I meant at all.. Not even remotely slightly what I meant. I'm pretty much done. I hate this ******** drama, and I definitely am not out to hurt people's feelings. Definitely not what I meant, and I'm very sorry Stream.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:17 pm


Suyo


...Wait what? I am completely confused, and this has caught me entirely out of left field.

Maybe it's that I JUST came back, but I haven't noticed a really increased level of tension. And any argument... will if it's at all related to the Guitar Hero thing, I consider that to be a friendly conversation/lively debate, far from a fight, and it's not like I am holding a grudge against anybody who doesn't agree with me or see my points as valid, people have differing opinions and value different aspects of a video game. sweatdrop I love Zero and Stream to death...

But I am adequately confused.
It's not you, sweetie.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:22 pm


Bart is confused too... emo

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:23 pm


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...Wait what? I am completely confused, and this has caught me entirely out of left field.

Maybe it's that I JUST came back, but I haven't noticed a really increased level of tension. And any argument... will if it's at all related to the Guitar Hero thing, I consider that to be a friendly conversation/lively debate, far from a fight, and it's not like I am holding a grudge against anybody who doesn't agree with me or see my points as valid, people have differing opinions and value different aspects of a video game. sweatdrop I love Zero and Stream to death...

But I am adequately confused.
It's not you, sweetie.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:36 pm


Walking off isn't rational or really that mature.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:37 pm


You know, I'd like to see where exactly it was that anybody said anything towards a specific person or a specific thing said at any point. The whole thing is not just about one thing that has been said, or one person, it is about how things have gotten between all of us as a group. Explain to me where it's right to react like that to one person bringing up the suggestion for everybody to talk, for all of us to get some of the things off of our chests that we may or may not have been building up on?

Right now, I really don't feel like getting into this whole thing, but I really don't care anymore. If we can't act like adults and talk over things without threats to leave, or saying that we're going against somebody, then I really don't see the point anymore. This entire thing has just gotten childish and everything is getting out of hand. Many of you know what I'm talking about, at least half of you do, and if not then I apologize if what I'm saying is confusing.

There isn't just the issue going on with any comment that was made tonight towards Rachel, a comment that was honestly rude and out of place to have been made. Where was it that anything had been said by a single person? Was the conversation that was going on not about how smoking and piercings were a turn-off for many? Yes, I will agree that in the past Rachel has had her moments where some of what she says has gotten to the point of being hurtful to the male gender, but what was there to have pointed out anything right at her in the least? Again, I'm not saying that this is the main problem that has brought up the entire idea of a guild-wide get together to talk over some things, but that is just one of the many issues that have come up between a number of guild members who have managed to talk over some of the things that have been going on.

I am honestly starting to feel as though this group is breaking apart, maybe it's my paranoia, or maybe I'm crazy, but when there is more than one person and instead a group that has brought an issue into the light and has spoken with many others about the same thing -- there's a problem. Ed wasn't trying to make anybody angry, or to get anybody to quit the guild, nobody is and nobody was. What was brought up was the simple suggestion of getting together to speak, something that many have been dancing around and trying to avoid.

There have been a number of regular members of the AG that have gone into a sort of hiatus or slow period within the guild itself, people that have been part of the guild for years and yet know they have started to visit less frequently. Does nobody see that as an issue that should be discussed, that there is something going on here that needs to be brought up and talked. I can count off people on two hands that have wanted to say something, but haven't because of causing things to get bad within the group or for somebody to get pissed off.

I'm to the point where I really don't care any longer, where this whole issue has gotten absolutely ridiculous. I see no point in saying anything more, there's just no reason to with all that is going on. When somebody brings up the suggestion to talk in a civil manner and people agree, but then it ends up like this what's the point, exactly? There are a number of things that I could say, a number of issues that I could bring up but there is just no point any longer.

I love you, AG, but the guild has gotten awkward to be in and I for one don't like the feeling I get when I post, where I have to watch everything I say to avoid some sort of argument to start, or where I have to censor myself. The AG was never like that before, but over the last couple of months things have gotten out of control and I do not feel at home any longer. Really, I love you AG, but this has gotten to be too much for even me.

For this reason and many others, I would like to say my goodbyes to the entire guild. I'll still be around, but my time in th AG has come to an end. I hope to see you guys around, shoot me a PM or give me a call if you want to talk. I'm always around when I'm not at work, or at least I get back to messages.

I love you, AG, and I hope everything turns out well for you again. heart
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:41 pm


I chose a bad evening to visit. sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:44 pm


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I chose a bad evening to visit. sweatdrop
Or, at very least, an interesting one.

On another note: Chromie! heart
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:46 pm


I have very little to say, mostly because I know very little about the situation... but I know this.

I've been a member of the guild since it's inception, and I've lurked the AS since page 1 or close to it. We were a group of like minded people who came together to form a family, helping each other out of our darkest woes and sharing in our greatest triumphs. Since when was our sanctuary desecrated with the taint of cutting each other down? Whether what we said was in jest or not, an apology never hurt anyone. I know all of you, and I know that none of us are out there to insult each other and make each other feel bad, but clearly some sort of major miscommunication has happened here.

I still have a very vague idea of what's going on, but I'm not going to let my family fade into the night for eternity and watch my sanctuary burned to the ground in front of me.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:49 pm


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I chose a bad evening to visit. sweatdrop
Or, at very least, an interesting one.

On another note: Chromie! heart
Zely! gonk heart crying

I only just noticed now that Guild replies haven't been switched over to the same format as the forums.

Other than worthless banter, I really don't know what to say.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:50 pm


Man, ******** it. There have been many times where I've been dragged into bullshit assumptions because I like girls. There have been comments made about that and I ******** know none of it may have been intended to be hurtful or offensive, but it sure as hell was. In jest or casual conversation or whatever but I'm not going to fly off the handle about it. Why should I look into someone's comment and drag out an insult where there was never intended to be one to begin with?

Stream, might as well say bye right now because I know and every ******** other person who knows you knows that regardless of people's rationalities, you're not going to listen or believe them to be justified for what they've said.

If you don't like what someone says, who gives a ********. Ignore it and stop dwelling on it. When you're constantly going to take what people say in life and bring out the worst, then that's your own ******** issue.

Does Rachel make comments about guys? Yes. Are they directed at anyone in here? NO. You guys really must think the world is out to get you...hurt you with their words etc.

I agree with Aki and Ed. Neither of them wanted to make people quit or throw hissy fits and it was clear that it wasn't their intention. Their posts were non confrontational and just wanted to patch things up. But if we're going to play these juvenile games of "I HAVE TO BE RIGHT" then so be it, but I really don't give a ********. Right or wrong, it doesn't matter. What matters is ******** respect. I don't care if you think differently from me but I sure as hell won't degrade you for it, or pick apart every little thing you say down to the point of arguing semantics for seemingly the sake of arguing itself.

As far as I am concerned, I don't want to post here any more; specifically, I don't want to talk about anything remotely opinionated anymore. Why? Someone is inevitably going to take my post and break it down line by line (just like you would in degrading a random user's post) to make me feel like a ******** idiot JUST BECAUSE MY OPINION IS DIFFERENT. Guess what. Not everyone is going to agree with you in life, but you can't just go about arguing in circles with them. It gets you no where.

So that's it. ******** it. If anyone wants to leave, I don't ******** you all for breaking up the only thing keeping me on Gaia.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:52 pm


I'm more or less with Suyo on this one. I don't think anyone here really intends for anything they say to be particularly insulting, hurtful, or other similar adjectives to the other members of the guild. I'm also not willing to let the guild I've come to know and love break apart over what is most likely a series of misunderstandings.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:56 pm


Chromefox
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I chose a bad evening to visit. sweatdrop
Or, at very least, an interesting one.

On another note: Chromie! heart
Zely! gonk heart crying

I only just noticed now that Guild replies haven't been switched over to the same format as the forums.

Other than worthless banter, I really don't know what to say.
Worthless banter is fun! As is chatting about whatever comes to mind. If anything is coming to mind. At the moment, most of mine is just wondering whether or not my classes for the next quarter are going to be enjoyable or miserable.

Boy, I sure hope that none of them devolve into the "Yay Communism" Lit 101 ended up being. gonk

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:59 pm


I should go. It's late anyways. sweatdrop

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