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 Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:57 am
Slash Zinrai Slainne Lockley Slash Zinrai Slainne Lockley Okay, that's more clear. And I'm sure there'll be plenty of development before we even get to that point, if they work out well enough. Even if they don't end up forming a relationship, he'll still see that life's not that great or just. And still, Kelly, I'd take that over snakes any day. Agreed on all fronts! We're over at Yuen Enterprises right now, which is serving as the "college" he got accepted into...You can jump in over there, OR we could play out the interactions between these two in a different forum. It's all the same for me. Which would you prefer? Truthfully? I think we should stay with Yuen, if for no better reason than to keep it all in one place. Plus, because it's IN Durem, we can bounce over there from time to time. Alright, then. PM me a link to it when you get a chance. Since I don't know anything about Yuen, is there something in particular that she might think is a smuggling commodity around there? Maybe an adderoll-like substance, for those students?
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:04 am
Yuen EnterprisesYuen is actually a bar, and a front for Vintricts mobster character to run his various evils out of. The "college" is probably just another act...something put forward by YE scientists to bring in potential test subjects. Basically, Eric...and his parents...are getting scammed. rofl So, given the den of debauchery near-by, I'd say there is plenty of reasons for her to be in that particular part of Durem when they cross paths.
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:07 am
So her usual bit of smuggling in illegal-quality liquor will do just fine there, or be a stop off on her route, or something. I can swing that.
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:10 am
Colonel Iyam A Heita This is why you guys have no idea what competition truly is. You get frustrated and turn into babies yelling "Wah I quit!" It's competition...it's suppose to be difficult but you man up and ******** cockslap the opposition. Why!? Because yours is the biggest, blackest, meatiest gargantuan they have ever seen and nature demands they fear it. What actual competition is has been lost on the roleplaying crowd for some time. I've heard countless people say balance is a myth or, that because of the subjective nature, there's nothing to it. But the whole point's to have an opponent that makes you think. And whether you win or lose, to make them recognize they may not prove victor. If there's no threat in you losing, there's no purpose. [Assuming it's not a staged scene, etc.] You might as well go "Yeah, they had a fight and x won" and then go sip tea. The variable nature which makes it enticing to begin with is steeped in overcoming challenge - Not challenge because someone slapped on "my character has bones denser than a dragon's and wears mythril armor" but something that makes you have to plot and think and plan and focus. And makes it so if you lose, it's something you can grow off of and make both your characters even better to stomp them or somebody else or just grow as a person. Instead. People try to toe the line of godhood and fight more OOC than IC. Granted that's not a new thing but it's not a good thing either.
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:21 am
Lord Haelstrom Colonel Iyam A Heita This is why you guys have no idea what competition truly is. You get frustrated and turn into babies yelling "Wah I quit!" It's competition...it's suppose to be difficult but you man up and ******** cockslap the opposition. Why!? Because yours is the biggest, blackest, meatiest gargantuan they have ever seen and nature demands they fear it. What actual competition is has been lost on the roleplaying crowd for some time. I've heard countless people say balance is a myth or, that because of the subjective nature, there's nothing to it. But the whole point's to have an opponent that makes you think. And whether you win or lose, to make them recognize they may not prove victor. If there's no threat in you losing, there's no purpose. [Assuming it's not a staged scene, etc.] You might as well go "Yeah, they had a fight and x won" and then go sip tea. The variable nature which makes it enticing to begin with is steeped in overcoming challenge - Not challenge because someone slapped on "my character has bones denser than a dragon's and wears mythril armor" but something that makes you have to plot and think and plan and focus. And makes it so if you lose, it's something you can grow off of and make both your characters even better to stomp them or somebody else or just grow as a person. Instead. People try to toe the line of godhood and fight more OOC than IC. Granted that's not a new thing but it's not a good thing either. Egos my good man, Egos. Too many invest themselves entirely too much into their characters. No offense to the blook but your opponent for example and those who think like and find reason to reject joke characters in a world predominately over run by them. They forget that Gaia isn't confined to their concept of reality but instead is a mesh-mosh of realities like the Smash games or Mugen or All-stars. Heita the character is driven to win all his fights because he considers himself a warrior. Jose the writer realistically understands that he can't win all fights because these tournaments are bloodsports whether it be H.o.H or GTB or CoC. There is no weight division or power divisions, it's just fight whatever is in front and try not to die in the process. SO given my potential opposition, I've already resigned myself to losing this thing but ICly and OOCly...leaving me with only one goal as I press forward. To have as much fun as possible. You can't control what isn't yours to control and I have no idea what we are be graded on.
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:21 am
I love a challenge, personally...
Almost all of my favorite fights have been no powers, and were decided through technical skill...both as writers, and fighters.
I think that powers DO add something fun to matches, but only in so much as providing additional utility or building a more dyamic battle.
When that's all you are...and you approach skillful exchanges of martial intent with "Your attack WOULD have worked, but I stand here and project a shield of solid force that stops it cold...and then blast you away with a mind thrust."
I just don't even see why I should bother.
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:35 am
Slash Zinrai I love a challenge, personally... Almost all of my favorite fights have been no powers, and were decided through technical skill...both as writers, and fighters. I think that powers DO add something fun to matches, but only in so much as providing additional utility or building a more dyamic battle. When that's all you are...and you approach skillful exchanges of martial intent with "Your attack WOULD have worked, but I stand here and project a shield of solid force that stops it cold...and then blast you away with a mind thrust." I just don't even see why I should bother. Exactly... you only enjoy yourself when there is an opportunity to win. I enjoy myself regardless. If my character's kit, one I made specific to begin with, can't beat you then I feel no shame in conceding because at the end of the day...Heita can't beat people who make shadow clones and shoot plasma. He can't beat people who have living chains and stand in place spouting off how cool they are. He can't beat people who perform uppercuts while resting their head on their shoulder awkwardly. His gonna try...but realistically those are fights he would lose. In terms of power scale. And one could argue...just outsmart them and use logic but those people are operating outside of a realm of logic soooooo... now what?
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:39 am
I'll copy-pasta from Skype.
[3/15/2014 10:03:50 PM] Lord Haelstrom: Still, it's occured to me that there's a difference in scope and intent between roleplayers who want some form of equality IC be it through illusions of "balance" or through impact and intrigue, and roleplayers who want to self-insert and make their character bypass level 100 and be boss fights.
[3/15/2014 10:04:03 PM] Lord Haelstrom: And it's really not something you can argue with or reprimand.
[3/15/2014 10:04:36 PM] Lord Haelstrom: If someone doesn't see the appeal in mutual enjoyment, they'll never see it unless they set their eyes on it on their own.
[3/15/2014 10:05:21 PM] Josh Boatsing Josh: No, it's not. But regardless of how self-important you consider yourself to be there should be a baseline level of rationality there that stops people from bleepbloop
[3/15/2014 10:05:24 PM] Josh Boatsing Josh: You'd assume so.
[3/15/2014 10:05:26 PM] Josh Boatsing Josh: It doesn't happen.
[3/15/2014 10:09:26 PM] Lord Haelstrom: It's not that they lack logic, it's that they choose to forsake logic in favor of their desired outcome.
[3/15/2014 10:09:39 PM] Lord Haelstrom: So again, it's nothing you can reason with because reason was never a factor in the first place.
But hey. What do I know. I passed out at a Subway [bonus: got a sriracha steak sub on the cheap. Score.]
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:42 am
Honestly he was the one who'd brought it up again, I just chose not to post. I'm not looking for appeal, its just the specifics of the match state differently. The chain is in fact a living-metal chain and it can extend itself. Also the chain was shot while he was a number of feet away and charging.
He caught the chain and continued charging, which would mean he brought it with him and was holding it: Lower reaction time. The blade of said chain was being forced towards his chest( assuming his guard is which most fighters would in a charge its close as is. The chain is directly in front of him, it does have far to go, nor does it have anything against it. It has forces helping it, natural and ability based{chain being controlled through velocity manic} by the time he swings he would in fact have the chain around to his right arm if it moved like a snake and could wrap if it could extend itself{which it could}.
Those are all acting against him in logical reality, am I right?
Now also he swinging a hammer trying to slowing up from his amazon tank charge finally in range prior to this so the chances of a back peddle would be silly any way with physics. Bojuka stepped in and launched his combo anyway, which would close any distance even if he could have back peddled; he'd still be hit. Keep in mind the chain would have been to his right arm and probably chest by now…. he ignored the fact the blade stabbed towards his chest as he was stopping to swing as well, and his arm would be stuck as the chain went tight on his body….. stabbed maybe? He didn't have to ignore it….could have turned his wrist. The judge called the wrap went down.Thats only a few facts of realities in my favor
If you read that, wow and thanks. there's still more if you want them just let me know, but this can be over now. Since it's been brought up again I really want to get facts out and put it to rest for the duration of the round, I asked a couple of you for a quick PM viewpoint but that was to see the other side and ponder myself.
EDIT: Oh and he doesn't have to move to be able to use his velocity abilities, they don't work that way. Everything I used is in my profile as well, the extending chain for instance.
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:49 am
Colonel Iyam A Heita Exactly... you only enjoy yourself when there is an opportunity to win. I enjoy myself regardless. If my character's kit, one I made specific to begin with, can't beat you then I feel no shame in conceding because at the end of the day...Heita can't beat people who make shadow clones and shoot plasma. He can't beat people who have living chains and stand in place spouting off how cool they are. He can't beat people who perform uppercuts while resting their head on their shoulder awkwardly. His gonna try...but realistically those are fights he would lose. In terms of power scale. And one could argue...just outsmart them and use logic but those people are operating outside of a realm of logic soooooo... now what? Not exactly, but I don't like being put into a situation where it's outright hopeless from the start. I play my characters true to their ambition, and then let my skills push them towards that outcome. Here's a perfect example. When I fought Kaori in Grand Tourny 1, she came out with an unmatchable kit: Total dominion over ice, and the ability to instantly produce large quantities of it. But, instead of throwing my hands in the air...I just tried to push Dith to his extremes. It was fun...even though I was outmatched.
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:51 am
I can't believe you guys are base enough to be clouded by Vintricts bullshit still. I don't have a problem taking a hit or loss, if its real he does. Y'all fall for it.
The chain could have be broken, he didn't have to carry it! He carried it and that's where he messed up. The chains and the way I use/used them is completely manageable and beatable as well as dodge able. I've used them in fights. He doesn't even primarily use weapons.
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:05 am
OutlawD One I can't believe you guys are base enough to be clouded by Vintricts bullshit still. I don't have a problem taking a hit or loss, if its real he does. Y'all fall for it.
The chain could have be broken, he didn't have to carry it! He carried it and that's where he messed up. The chains and the way I use/used them is completely manageable and beatable as well as dodge able. I've used them in fights. He doesn't even primarily use weapons. First you meant bias... Second this is a general discussion, it's not about you. Thirdly...everyone is well versed in Vintrict's style of Bullshido but Bullshido does not counter Bullshido and saying "but the Judges let me do it!" doesn't mean it's balanced, just that it has been accepted. Have some chamomile tea and relax brah brah. @Slash: To say it isn't an annoyance would be lying on my part. I even do the norm and indulge in OOC bashing from time to time...mostly the moment it happens but I also recognize that doing that is counter productive and actually try to resolve the issue in a dignified manner after that. Sometimes that means taking an L because this is all something we do willingly. We willingly subject ourselves to this nonsense knowing beforehand it is rampant.
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:07 am
Lord Haelstrom I'll copy-pasta from Skype. [3/15/2014 10:03:50 PM] Lord Haelstrom: Still, it's occured to me that there's a difference in scope and intent between roleplayers who want some form of equality IC be it through illusions of "balance" or through impact and intrigue, and roleplayers who want to self-insert and make their character bypass level 100 and be boss fights. [3/15/2014 10:04:03 PM] Lord Haelstrom: And it's really not something you can argue with or reprimand. [3/15/2014 10:04:36 PM] Lord Haelstrom: If someone doesn't see the appeal in mutual enjoyment, they'll never see it unless they set their eyes on it on their own. [3/15/2014 10:05:21 PM] Josh Boatsing Josh: No, it's not. But regardless of how self-important you consider yourself to be there should be a baseline level of rationality there that stops people from bleepbloop [3/15/2014 10:05:24 PM] Josh Boatsing Josh: You'd assume so. [3/15/2014 10:05:26 PM] Josh Boatsing Josh: It doesn't happen. [3/15/2014 10:09:26 PM] Lord Haelstrom: It's not that they lack logic, it's that they choose to forsake logic in favor of their desired outcome. [3/15/2014 10:09:39 PM] Lord Haelstrom: So again, it's nothing you can reason with because reason was never a factor in the first place. But hey. What do I know. I passed out at a Subway [bonus: got a sriracha steak sub on the cheap. Score.] You,Jello and me need to discuss some things one day...
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:18 am
Truff, brah... With Kaori, of course, I wasn't really mad at -her- so much as Galaxy. He taught her to play that way, and validated it by pushing her through. Just like anyone, she needs to see good habits...and participate in better RP. She isn't a know-it-all, either...so she stands a far better chance of embracing what she learns, and making something of herself.
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Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:19 am
Colonel Iyam A Heita You,Jello and me need to discuss some things one day... Should be in the Sigil chat. 98% of the time it's grabass and whining, but now and again it can be useful.
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