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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:46 pm


Chieftain Twilight
heh, yeh, think about how common "Twilight" is?

anywho, so i'm getting myself all confused in figuring out how to tie a Dhoti, and what a Chokka Shirt is. xp

also, totally worked up on the whole "Dowry" issue... someone brought it up in conversation about my Engagement, and to be honest i was hoping to just skip that part.... but now i'm wondering whether that's for the best or not?

you see, for 1, we're both poor. lower-class. neither of us expected lavish gold and whatnot to be involved, but as soon as it's mentioned... there are some good points. such as how well it will compliment my darling's beautiful skin tone... >w>

2ndly, while it was brought up tha it is Indian Tradition, this isn't nessesarilly an Indian Wedding; it's just a Hare Krishna Wedding. plus, even in India there is alot of fuss going on about Dowries and the Marriage Act (a Legislation some parts of which i approve of and some parts of which i disapprove of, personally); though, admittedly, here in America we wouldn't be affecting that at all regardless.

3rdly, however, i still don't want to encourage that kind of practice, and it goes strictly against my Economic and Social Goals. confused so, even if i do accept a Dowry, and/or have my Bride decked out in brilliant metal plumages, i'd want to keep it small. something pretty, of considerable worthe, but not to ostentatious, nor rediculously expensive.

thoughts, opinions, ideas? gonk


If it goes against what you believe in then don't accept it. Just make sure that they know that you aren't accepting it before they try to give it to you.

Tell them they can get you a small wedding gift. Like a microwave or a toaster or a blender. Something like that. You need those things so if they want to help they can get something like that. That is why couples register for gifts when they get married. So that people don't just get them something random and useless or something that is so expensive that they wouldn't feel comfortable accepting it.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 2:46 pm


Vengeful Elegance
Chieftain Twilight
heh, yeh, think about how common "Twilight" is?

anywho, so i'm getting myself all confused in figuring out how to tie a Dhoti, and what a Chokka Shirt is. xp

also, totally worked up on the whole "Dowry" issue... someone brought it up in conversation about my Engagement, and to be honest i was hoping to just skip that part.... but now i'm wondering whether that's for the best or not?

you see, for 1, we're both poor. lower-class. neither of us expected lavish gold and whatnot to be involved, but as soon as it's mentioned... there are some good points. such as how well it will compliment my darling's beautiful skin tone... >w>

2ndly, while it was brought up tha it is Indian Tradition, this isn't nessesarilly an Indian Wedding; it's just a Hare Krishna Wedding. plus, even in India there is alot of fuss going on about Dowries and the Marriage Act (a Legislation some parts of which i approve of and some parts of which i disapprove of, personally); though, admittedly, here in America we wouldn't be affecting that at all regardless.

3rdly, however, i still don't want to encourage that kind of practice, and it goes strictly against my Economic and Social Goals. confused so, even if i do accept a Dowry, and/or have my Bride decked out in brilliant metal plumages, i'd want to keep it small. something pretty, of considerable worthe, but not to ostentatious, nor rediculously expensive.

thoughts, opinions, ideas? gonk


If it goes against what you believe in then don't accept it. Just make sure that they know that you aren't accepting it before they try to give it to you.

Tell them they can get you a small wedding gift. Like a microwave or a toaster or a blender. Something like that. You need those things so if they want to help they can get something like that. That is why couples register for gifts when they get married. So that people don't just get them something random and useless or something that is so expensive that they wouldn't feel comfortable accepting it.


I don't know very much about dowries, but from what I understand in western culture, they were often used as bribes to get the less-than-fabulously-beautiful daughters married off quickly. I'm also the sort of person who doesn't believe in giant diamonds on engagement rings. Then again, I used a star sapphire to propose to my husband. razz

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 3:23 pm


O:
I. Changed. My. Username. O:
YAY!~
PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 6:24 pm


Layla Oleander
O:
I. Changed. My. Username. O:
YAY!~


you only get away with it cause it's actually a very lovely new name. xd

@ Vengefull & Scarlet: yeh, i hear ya both there... my issue with it is in the politics, you all know i believe in Communism and Fair Trade, over the capitalism and free trade policies that america seems to love so much.

it's the ignorance that's the problem. people don't want to know where their goods come from, or why they are so affordable. capitalism is a plague, and all things that support it need to be put to an end. the only way people will feel guilty is if i force them to face the truth.

in the meantime, i'm gonna balance making my Wedding as great as my Bride expects, without turning my back on my Morals and Personal Goals.


P.S.~ i ADORE Diamonds and Rubies, but hate the market for them, and refuse to buy them without knowing that they came from Fair Trade.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:02 pm


Thank you~ She is my favorite character to use in RPs~
Oh my god, I feel so bad~
I am making fun of elves~
PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:07 pm


xd we all do, and i play as them alot.

but in WoW, i hate on the elves... >.>

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:10 pm


What....?

And, I am only doing it to get on like my Best friend's nerves.
He adores and obsesses over them.
And I am angry at him for being able to lick his elbow!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:19 pm


the night elves brought the scourge to Azaroth in teh first place, during a gigantic takeover of the Amani Empire of teh Trolls (who were the first intelligent race)!

and the blood elves act all high and mighty,but have NEVER in their entire history done anything by themselves. >.> and then they get a gigantic hole blown through the middle of their largest city.

WoW elves suck! xd

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:23 pm


....WoW......?
Never 'eard o' it~

I was just pointing out the elves he bases his characters off of are really girly.
And to add insult to injury, some people thought he was a girl. XD
PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 7:25 pm


world of warcraft.

but i tend to get angry at the jokes that elves are "girly" or "gay." they in no way act girly, nor gay, unless they actually are girly or gay.

i have seen very clear displays of Masculinity from Elves that for some reason other folks seem to ignore. confused

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:01 am


Oh~ I knew that, I was testing you! >.<''''

I mostly call them girly because well, he bases them off of L.O.T.R and those elves are really PRETTY!

Any who~
PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 11:27 am


Chieftain Twilight
Layla Oleander
O:
I. Changed. My. Username. O:
YAY!~


you only get away with it cause it's actually a very lovely new name. xd

@ Vengefull & Scarlet: yeh, i hear ya both there... my issue with it is in the politics, you all know i believe in Communism and Fair Trade, over the capitalism and free trade policies that america seems to love so much.

it's the ignorance that's the problem. people don't want to know where their goods come from, or why they are so affordable. capitalism is a plague, and all things that support it need to be put to an end. the only way people will feel guilty is if i force them to face the truth.

in the meantime, i'm gonna balance making my Wedding as great as my Bride expects, without turning my back on my Morals and Personal Goals.


P.S.~ i ADORE Diamonds and Rubies, but hate the market for them, and refuse to buy them without knowing that they came from Fair Trade.


Guilt moves more mountains than rage could ever dream of, to be sure.

[/also thinks a lot of "semi-precious" stones are just as pretty]

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:18 pm


I am so proud~ I taught my mum her favorite word.
Can you guess what it is?~
That's right. "******** taught her that~ XD
PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:07 pm


Starcrossedsky
Chieftain Twilight
Layla Oleander
O:
I. Changed. My. Username. O:
YAY!~


you only get away with it cause it's actually a very lovely new name. xd

@ Vengefull & Scarlet: yeh, i hear ya both there... my issue with it is in the politics, you all know i believe in Communism and Fair Trade, over the capitalism and free trade policies that america seems to love so much.

it's the ignorance that's the problem. people don't want to know where their goods come from, or why they are so affordable. capitalism is a plague, and all things that support it need to be put to an end. the only way people will feel guilty is if i force them to face the truth.

in the meantime, i'm gonna balance making my Wedding as great as my Bride expects, without turning my back on my Morals and Personal Goals.


P.S.~ i ADORE Diamonds and Rubies, but hate the market for them, and refuse to buy them without knowing that they came from Fair Trade.


Guilt moves more mountains than rage could ever dream of, to be sure.

[/also thinks a lot of "semi-precious" stones are just as pretty]


"Semi-precious" is just a marketing scheme. Tanzanite is one of the rarest stones because it's ONLY found in Tanzania. It would be the most valuable, if it wasn't for the constant civil war in the country. Amethysts were actually the most valuable stone in Ancient Greece.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:08 pm


Chieftain Twilight
heh, yeh, think about how common "Twilight" is?

anywho, so i'm getting myself all confused in figuring out how to tie a Dhoti, and what a Chokka Shirt is. xp

also, totally worked up on the whole "Dowry" issue... someone brought it up in conversation about my Engagement, and to be honest i was hoping to just skip that part.... but now i'm wondering whether that's for the best or not?

you see, for 1, we're both poor. lower-class. neither of us expected lavish gold and whatnot to be involved, but as soon as it's mentioned... there are some good points. such as how well it will compliment my darling's beautiful skin tone... >w>

2ndly, while it was brought up tha it is Indian Tradition, this isn't nessesarilly an Indian Wedding; it's just a Hare Krishna Wedding. plus, even in India there is alot of fuss going on about Dowries and the Marriage Act (a Legislation some parts of which i approve of and some parts of which i disapprove of, personally); though, admittedly, here in America we wouldn't be affecting that at all regardless.

3rdly, however, i still don't want to encourage that kind of practice, and it goes strictly against my Economic and Social Goals. confused so, even if i do accept a Dowry, and/or have my Bride decked out in brilliant metal plumages, i'd want to keep it small. something pretty, of considerable worthe, but not to ostentatious, nor rediculously expensive.

thoughts, opinions, ideas? gonk



I think you missed my point completely...
Of course my offer was not a dowry, as i am not tied with her family.
Nor is it a religious issue being beaten down on your head, o.0

What my point was, if you do the Sari, then perhaps, some of the jewelry, which is made to compliment the clothes, would be appropriate. It is a look i am very envious of, and as such, well, i can't afford mountains, but the smaller, more delicate peices i could o.0
of course that would be a wedding gift, and i would highly suggest that either you sell it and put the money away for your children's college, or keep it as the base value of gold is rising every day, and someday, paper money and credit won't be worth a thing. In short it would be an investment for your future.

also on a note about dowry's, there are many traditions involving a dowry, And they are not in my view, a " bride price" in short, what eh bride has to pay to get into the family, tehre are many other traditions as well, in some places the MAN pays ti dowry and moves in with his wife and her family, so really it's a bit silly, but fun, even American's have a dowry system, they are called " hope chests" where a young woman makes and puts inside things to build a thriving and happy household on.
In short a dowry is more often then not, designed to help the new couple set up their own life, not as a price. *sighs*
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