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 Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 12:37 pm
canadiane_sweetheart Eadem Proudly_Jewish roxianna French is my third language, and I'm not fluent at it in the least...I just can't catch on to what French people are talking about. They talk too fast! I know what you mean... I recommend going to France or Belgium for some time - either as a vacation by yourself, as an exchange student, or on homestay. You will get used to the speed at which they speak after a few days 3nodding I went to Quebec for 2 weeks earlier this summer and it improved my French drastically. I wouldn't recommend going to Quebec to improve your French, because Canadian French is very different from France/Belgium French.(Though it could be a fun challenge The quebecois speak with a funny cowboy accent xd ) Canadian French is detested by most people in France and Belgium though. It's all slang >.< Anyway, I need to go... today's my first day of school ^^;;; I'm not a native French speaker, but I'm Belgian and indeed Canadian French sounds horrible. No, you're wrong. Canadian French isn't horrible nor is it just slang. It's just different. I'm telling you this since I myself am a Canadian French speaker. The reason why it's different is because our language is very mixed up, if you know what I mean. Our expressions aren't the same at all. For example, we say "la porte est barré" instead of "la porte est verrouillée" when we say "the door is locked". Our expressions are much closer to the original French than it is in France or Belgium, so you can say that we speak a bit more traditionally. Another factor is we're surrounded by English-speaking states and provinces. Quebec (and Louisiana) are the only places in all of Canada and the United States that have French as an official language. (Quite frankly, I heard a French speaker from Louisiana speak it and they have a really different accent.) We, therefore, pick up a few English words and add it to our day-to-day vocabulary, just like they do in France (though instead of "je vais parker la voiture", as they say in Paris, we say "je vais stationner le char" ["char", or "chariot", which translates literally as "chariot", is the slang word for "car" here, which goes back to speaking more traditionally], which is way more French in my opinion) The third reason is because we speak so fast that we sometimes turn two words into one. For example, if we say "je suis" quickly, it would sound like "j'suis" [shu.ee]. So put all those factors together and you get one hell of a mixed/confused language! To conclude, I'm pretty sure that there are some differences in the accent and vocabulary in any French speaking country when comparing one to another. I hear that in France, there are so many different ways to speak French that it drives you insane! So, Canadian French isn't horrible: it's just different. Exactly, my French teacher never liked it when I pointed out words from Québecois because she thought they were horrible. I like Canadian french and I'm trying to learn the Acadian and Québec dialects. 3nodding
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 8:52 pm
People from France seem to use plenty of English words, anyway. Les sneakers, le parking, le weekend, etc. (Don't the stop signs say "STOP", too, instead of arreter? Hah. The language police would lynch them here...)
I don't necessarily like the sound of Parisian French, but it isn't a horrible dialect; it's just not what I'm used to and I find the intonation less pretty. It's not more or less legit than the French spoken elsewhere. Same goes for Canadian French.
It kills me to hear people rag on Canadian French and say how bad it is. I'm sure people from Louisiana endure the same insults.
I would advise anyone trying to learn French to go to Quebec city. If you do a homestay with a family and make an effort not to seek out the other English-speakers, you'll do just fine. It's a beautiful, beautiful city and is French to the core, regardless of what certain people say.
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:47 pm
Don't the stop signs in Quebec say "arrêt" instead of "arrêter"? whee
I think Parisian French sounds really pretty, but sounds a little stuck up at the same time. I don't know about you guys, but I think that French Canadian sounds kind of hill billy-ish. But I'm really used to it, I've attended a French school for 9 years in Montreal and I have respect for the dialect(?)...
But it does bother me when the French seem to think their French is a lot more superior than Canadian French. I say they're pretty much equal?
And Quebec City is nice. People there are really friendly too! smile
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Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:57 pm
Taeryyn People from France seem to use plenty of English words, anyway. Les sneakers, le parking, le weekend, etc. (Don't the stop signs say "STOP", too, instead of arreter? Hah. The language police would lynch them here...) I don't necessarily like the sound of Parisian French, but it isn't a horrible dialect; it's just not what I'm used to and I find the intonation less pretty. It's not more or less legit than the French spoken elsewhere. Same goes for Canadian French. It kills me to hear people rag on Canadian French and say how bad it is. I'm sure people from Louisiana endure the same insults. I would advise anyone trying to learn French to go to Quebec city. If you do a homestay with a family and make an effort not to seek out the other English-speakers, you'll do just fine. It's a beautiful, beautiful city and is French to the core, regardless of what certain people say. I love the Canadian French! My friend lives there now, and is picking up French as well as his native language of Urdu. He says they're very nice to him when he makes mistakes, i hope to visit him and see him soon >_> I've been to Louisiana, they have that Creole/French mixed with our Southern Twang, its comforting but at the same time you're like 'THAT in the South? D:' hehe xd
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Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:39 pm
Bilvy Don't the stop signs in Quebec say "arrêt" instead of "arrêter"? whee Yeah, I think so. Good call.
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Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 9:11 am
Many stop signs around the world say STOP, I believe, regardless of language.
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:06 pm
When it comes to stop signs, I think most people are reacting to the color and shape rather than the actual text. Replace a stop sign a red octagon with a random squiggle on it that looks like it might be something in some language, and I am willing to bet most people will react as though it's a stop sign.
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:05 pm
Can someone please help me? A French guy added me on MSN and I was trying to find out why and where he got my email from but I don't understnad his French chatspeak. Here's the short conversation I had with him: Quote: abdelrahim says (20:35): salu naömi says (20:36): salut o.o tu es .... ? abdelrahim says (20:40): smail est to naömi says (20:40): excuse-moi français n'est pas ma langue native o.o naömi says (20:41): comment est-ce que tu me sais? naömi says (20:42): *tu me connais? abdelrahim says (20:44): nn bn prends mon new msn est on vas parler masta--boy94@hotmail.fr naömi says (20:45): ........ mais je ne te connais pas o___o abdelrahim says (20:46): mais on vas connes tous les deux naömi says (20:47): d'où as-tu obtenu mon msn? abdelrahim says (20:54): bn c est po ma boite de mon amis mais on oeux conné si tu veux on men mesn naömi says (20:55): désolé je ne comprend pas les abréviations .. abdelrahim says (20:56): mais on peux conné dans mon msn stp naömi says (20:59): euhhh, comprends-tu anglais? @_@ abdelrahim says (21:00): nn franais bn tu es doutoi? naömi says (21:01): je parle anglais mais j'apprend francais a l'école .. naömi says (21:02): et je dois partir
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Posted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:02 pm
@ Avis-yam:
... I don't really think he explained how he got your e-mail well enough for me to comprehend, but he was saying that you guys could get to know each other on MSN. He's a creep, dude. If I were you I'd just block and delete him! I had two people from France add me on MSN one day too, and I asked the girl where she got my MSN from and she said from an e-mail sent to lots of people, apparently I was on the list.
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Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2008 5:58 pm
Bilvy @ Avis-yam:... I don't really think he explained how he got your e-mail well enough for me to comprehend, but he was saying that you guys could get to know each other on MSN. He's a creep, dude. If I were you I'd just block and delete him! I had two people from France add me on MSN one day too, and I asked the girl where she got my MSN from and she said from an e-mail sent to lots of people, apparently I was on the list. neutral That's what I inferred as well. gonk The same guy (at least, I think it's the same guy ... or some of his friends) has tried to add me on three separate accounts following this. Ugh.
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:02 pm
Avis-yam Bilvy @ Avis-yam:... I don't really think he explained how he got your e-mail well enough for me to comprehend, but he was saying that you guys could get to know each other on MSN. He's a creep, dude. If I were you I'd just block and delete him! I had two people from France add me on MSN one day too, and I asked the girl where she got my MSN from and she said from an e-mail sent to lots of people, apparently I was on the list. neutral That's what I inferred as well. gonk The same guy (at least, I think it's the same guy ... or some of his friends) has tried to add me on three separate accounts following this. Ugh. That's almost as bad as those 419 scam emails from Africa. Most of them use yahoo.fr based accounts too! At least he didn't ask you to do take money out of his swiss bank account. 3nodding
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 7:32 pm
Koko.Dk Avis-yam Bilvy @ Avis-yam:... I don't really think he explained how he got your e-mail well enough for me to comprehend, but he was saying that you guys could get to know each other on MSN. He's a creep, dude. If I were you I'd just block and delete him! I had two people from France add me on MSN one day too, and I asked the girl where she got my MSN from and she said from an e-mail sent to lots of people, apparently I was on the list. neutral That's what I inferred as well. gonk The same guy (at least, I think it's the same guy ... or some of his friends) has tried to add me on three separate accounts following this. Ugh. That's almost as bad as those 419 scam emails from Africa. Most of them use yahoo.fr based accounts too! At least he didn't ask you to do take money out of his swiss bank account. 3nodding Why is it all of a sudden everyone is getting African scam mail except me? XD
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Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:19 am
PiercedPixie2 Koko.Dk Avis-yam Bilvy @ Avis-yam:... I don't really think he explained how he got your e-mail well enough for me to comprehend, but he was saying that you guys could get to know each other on MSN. He's a creep, dude. If I were you I'd just block and delete him! I had two people from France add me on MSN one day too, and I asked the girl where she got my MSN from and she said from an e-mail sent to lots of people, apparently I was on the list. neutral That's what I inferred as well. gonk The same guy (at least, I think it's the same guy ... or some of his friends) has tried to add me on three separate accounts following this. Ugh. That's almost as bad as those 419 scam emails from Africa. Most of them use yahoo.fr based accounts too! At least he didn't ask you to do take money out of his swiss bank account. 3nodding Why is it all of a sudden everyone is getting African scam mail except me? XD Join the forum at http://www.419eater.com and you can get tips on how to bait those scammers they even give you email addresses to the scammers.
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 11:11 am
canadiane_sweetheart Eadem Proudly_Jewish roxianna French is my third language, and I'm not fluent at it in the least...I just can't catch on to what French people are talking about. They talk too fast! I know what you mean... I recommend going to France or Belgium for some time - either as a vacation by yourself, as an exchange student, or on homestay. You will get used to the speed at which they speak after a few days 3nodding I went to Quebec for 2 weeks earlier this summer and it improved my French drastically. I wouldn't recommend going to Quebec to improve your French, because Canadian French is very different from France/Belgium French.(Though it could be a fun challenge The quebecois speak with a funny cowboy accent xd ) Canadian French is detested by most people in France and Belgium though. It's all slang >.< Anyway, I need to go... today's my first day of school ^^;;; I'm not a native French speaker, but I'm Belgian and indeed Canadian French sounds horrible. No, you're wrong. Canadian French isn't horrible nor is it just slang. It's just different. I'm telling you this since I myself am a Canadian French speaker. The reason why it's different is because our language is very mixed up, if you know what I mean. Our expressions aren't the same at all. For example, we say "la porte est barré" instead of "la porte est verrouillée" when we say "the door is locked". Our expressions are much closer to the original French than it is in France or Belgium, so you can say that we speak a bit more traditionally. Another factor is we're surrounded by English-speaking states and provinces. Quebec (and Louisiana) are the only places in all of Canada and the United States that have French as an official language. (Quite frankly, I heard a French speaker from Louisiana speak it and they have a really different accent.) We, therefore, pick up a few English words and add it to our day-to-day vocabulary, just like they do in France (though instead of "je vais parker la voiture", as they say in Paris, we say "je vais stationner le char" ["char", or "chariot", which translates literally as "chariot", is the slang word for "car" here, which goes back to speaking more traditionally], which is way more French in my opinion) The third reason is because we speak so fast that we sometimes turn two words into one. For example, if we say "je suis" quickly, it would sound like "j'suis" [shu.ee]. So put all those factors together and you get one hell of a mixed/confused language! To conclude, I'm pretty sure that there are some differences in the accent and vocabulary in any French speaking country when comparing one to another. I hear that in France, there are so many different ways to speak French that it drives you insane! So, Canadian French isn't horrible: it's just different.
P.S : On dit pas "je vais parker la voiture" en France ;] On dit plutôt "je vais garer la voiture" !
Et on contracte aussi les mots genre "je suis" en "chui" ou "je vais" en "jvais"
Anyways, I've made a new post and a few corrections on the French lessons... If anyone is interested D: It seems like no one came for at least a year X'D
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