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 Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:30 pm
Johnny Malone Nelowulf Its not the power complex that worries me. Its the fact that few actually take the time to know the attacks, the strength of the attacks, and how hard the attacks are to pull off that worries me. I mean, people use push and lightning like its no big deal. it is, though. Simple techniques are nothing, but they do take effort none-the-less. If you're below 40 years old and performing any skill, reguardless of its simplicity, without some concentrating, you're godmodding for sure. Yeah the Force is a big deal but I see people in the RP use it like it's nothing. Again, glad I don't want to play a force-user. Besides the struggle of playing a nonforce-user against force users is fun in my opinion. I have to find conventional means to battle their powers. And then they'll just send an attack at you because they obviously have the time to react, because the force makes everyone too fast to comprehend.
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:31 pm
@ Cale: Since you're focusing on the blade, you definately fall into that category. Consolars at least have the practice with balancing themselves. Its almost like Naruto in a sense. You can perform the same feats, but it takes you more energy because you lack control.
I say 40 because its a good age for a Jedi Master. There are exceptions to this rule, but I am assuming that nobody is Krayt or Cade Skywalker, and we're playing on a general bodytype.
@Ral: I'm going to complain about it, but I'm not going to demand a redo for sheer sake that I'm tired of excuses and dramatics. If it happens again, though, there's going to be a serious talk, however, about how the RP is going to run. I may not be in charge, but I'll at least make sure there's a damn good reason why a break in canon scripts are being used instead of proper planning.
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:31 pm
Ral Roke Johnny Malone Nelowulf Its not the power complex that worries me. Its the fact that few actually take the time to know the attacks, the strength of the attacks, and how hard the attacks are to pull off that worries me. I mean, people use push and lightning like its no big deal. it is, though. Simple techniques are nothing, but they do take effort none-the-less. If you're below 40 years old and performing any skill, reguardless of its simplicity, without some concentrating, you're godmodding for sure. Yeah the Force is a big deal but I see people in the RP use it like it's nothing. Again, glad I don't want to play a force-user. Besides the struggle of playing a nonforce-user against force users is fun in my opinion. I have to find conventional means to battle their powers. And then they'll just send an attack at you because they obviously have the time to react, because the force makes everyone too fast to comprehend. Which is what makes everything all the more interesting, it's hard to get the drop on them and it's hard to face them in a one on one fight because of their abilities. Which is why Iust is going to have an interesting job in Factions.
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:31 pm
Johnny Malone Nelowulf Its not the power complex that worries me. Its the fact that few actually take the time to know the attacks, the strength of the attacks, and how hard the attacks are to pull off that worries me. I mean, people use push and lightning like its no big deal. it is, though. Simple techniques are nothing, but they do take effort none-the-less. If you're below 40 years old and performing any skill, reguardless of its simplicity, without some concentrating, you're godmodding for sure. Yeah the Force is a big deal but I see people in the RP use it like it's nothing. Again, glad I don't want to play a force-user. Besides the struggle of playing a nonforce-user against force users is fun in my opinion. I have to find conventional means to battle their powers. When playing a Force user, I always ask myself "Can I do this?". And, if in doubt, I'll confer with others on it.
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:34 pm
Nelowulf @ Cale: Since you're focusing on the blade, you definately fall into that category. Consolars at least have the practice with balancing themselves. Its almost like Naruto in a sense. You can perform the same feats, but it takes you more energy because you lack control. Thanks. I needed to know that. I'll tone it down from now on.
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:37 pm
Cale Darksun Nelowulf @ Cale: Since you're focusing on the blade, you definately fall into that category. Consolars at least have the practice with balancing themselves. Its almost like Naruto in a sense. You can perform the same feats, but it takes you more energy because you lack control. Thanks. I needed to know that. I'll tone it down from now on. Well, let me put it this way. Guardians focus on the battle. So powers like sprint, strength, etc. come more naturally than overt attacks like push, mind control, etc. But that would only concern you when you're in a fight to begin with. You can pull mind tricks on people (unless of course, you're like some jedi and just cannot do some powers, no matter how hard you try) as long as you're not having to split your concentration. Its mostlly those attacks which are solely force powered. Fights involving internal powers, however, are pretty much mooted in you case.
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:40 pm
Nelowulf Cale Darksun Nelowulf @ Cale: Since you're focusing on the blade, you definately fall into that category. Consolars at least have the practice with balancing themselves. Its almost like Naruto in a sense. You can perform the same feats, but it takes you more energy because you lack control. Thanks. I needed to know that. I'll tone it down from now on. Well, let me put it this way. Guardians focus on the battle. So powers like sprint, strength, etc. come more naturally than overt attacks like push, mind control, etc. But that would only concern you when you're in a fight to begin with. You can pull mind tricks on people (unless of course, you're like some jedi and just cannot do some powers, no matter how hard you try) as long as you're not having to split your concentration. Its mostlly those attacks which are solely force powered. Fights involving internal powers, however, are pretty much mooted in you case. so those that affect myself are easier to use than those that affect the world around me, correct?
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:41 pm
Cale Darksun Nelowulf Cale Darksun Nelowulf @ Cale: Since you're focusing on the blade, you definately fall into that category. Consolars at least have the practice with balancing themselves. Its almost like Naruto in a sense. You can perform the same feats, but it takes you more energy because you lack control. Thanks. I needed to know that. I'll tone it down from now on. Well, let me put it this way. Guardians focus on the battle. So powers like sprint, strength, etc. come more naturally than overt attacks like push, mind control, etc. But that would only concern you when you're in a fight to begin with. You can pull mind tricks on people (unless of course, you're like some jedi and just cannot do some powers, no matter how hard you try) as long as you're not having to split your concentration. Its mostlly those attacks which are solely force powered. Fights involving internal powers, however, are pretty much mooted in you case. so those that affect myself are easier to use than those that affect the world around me, correct? correct. As you channel the force to aid you in combat, naturally those skills which would benefit the fight directly would be more likely to be practiced, and more importantly, subconciously.
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:42 pm
This needs to be said it looks like: That was merely a dramatic action. Archaras will never attempt it in the RP again, and if he does (Highly HIGHLY unlikely) it will not be in a position that affects any PCs
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:43 pm
Nelowulf Cale Darksun Nelowulf Cale Darksun Nelowulf @ Cale: Since you're focusing on the blade, you definately fall into that category. Consolars at least have the practice with balancing themselves. Its almost like Naruto in a sense. You can perform the same feats, but it takes you more energy because you lack control. Thanks. I needed to know that. I'll tone it down from now on. Well, let me put it this way. Guardians focus on the battle. So powers like sprint, strength, etc. come more naturally than overt attacks like push, mind control, etc. But that would only concern you when you're in a fight to begin with. You can pull mind tricks on people (unless of course, you're like some jedi and just cannot do some powers, no matter how hard you try) as long as you're not having to split your concentration. Its mostlly those attacks which are solely force powered. Fights involving internal powers, however, are pretty much mooted in you case. so those that affect myself are easier to use than those that affect the world around me, correct? correct. As you channel the force to aid you in combat, naturally those skills which would benefit the fight directly would be more likely to be practiced, and more importantly, subconciously. So where would energy deflection fall? external or internal?
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:46 pm
Cale Darksun So where would energy deflection fall? external or internal? Depends on how much you used it. Guardians tend to reflect attacks with their saber more than with the force. Take Mace for example. Instead of deflection, he channeled the force through his saber to produce the same effect. So some attacks are actually altered for the different fighting styles employed.
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:47 pm
I'll get that user manual to you Cale... sometime. Between schoolwork, gaming, writing bios for my characters, and new OGG posts I'm kind of busy.
No one has commented much on my assessment as to how few Loyalists there are beside Kenet. I guess that means you guys agree with me, so when I'm not supressing Kenet's Mandos I'll just have to chase the GLF around the Galaxy.
I brought up the feeding of Clones because its actually something directly addressed by Timothy Zahn in the Dark Force Rising series. If you remember Thrawn went out and siezed Ukio specifically to feed his clone armies. Anyway, does anyone remember how many Cloning Cylinders EK pulled out of Wayland?
Of course a couple million clones is just a drop in the bucket when you look at the Imperial military machine.
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:47 pm
Nelowulf Cale Darksun So where would energy deflection fall? external or internal? Depends on how much you used it. Guardians tend to reflect attacks with their saber more than with the force. Take Mace for example. Instead of deflection, he channeled the force through his saber to produce the same effect. So some attacks are actually altered for the different fighting styles employed. What I mean is when I deflected a blaster bolt with a gloved hand back on Skull Base. Is that beyond my capabilities?
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:49 pm
stellarmagic I'll get that user manual to you Cale... sometime. Between schoolwork, gaming, writing bios for my characters, and new OGG posts I'm kind of busy. It doesnt have to be a novel. But I would appreciate it if you got it to me as soon as possible so I can prepare for Factions.
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Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:53 pm
Cale Darksun Nelowulf Cale Darksun So where would energy deflection fall? external or internal? Depends on how much you used it. Guardians tend to reflect attacks with their saber more than with the force. Take Mace for example. Instead of deflection, he channeled the force through his saber to produce the same effect. So some attacks are actually altered for the different fighting styles employed. What I mean is when I deflected a blaster bolt with a gloved hand back on Skull Base. Is that beyond my capabilities? Not beyond, if you learned it. considering Hiko trained you specifically to fight Ferno, I wouldn't be surprized either. I never said you couldn't focus on a specific power to makee yourself better at using it. But this is all a balance of time and training. Consolars learn to fight with mostly the force, so they pick up skills easily because they have already learned how to channel the force at any point for any reason. Guardians are more interested in modifying themselves to fight with the force as an ally, but as a second partner to their own initiative. I never stated that you can't use the attack. Nor did I say you need to concentrate on the skill to use it. however, if you learned that skill, chances are another part of your fighting skills suffered. Most likely you could easily have learned deflection. But if you want to really be concerned with balance (you handle skills very well anyway) then pick a skill to stink at. I wouldn't be worrying about it. Overt skills are harder for you, but not necessarily banned... Its like any other skill. You don't use it, it decays.
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