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 Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:07 am
Has anybody had a chance to go toe-to-toe with flyers with their Eldar yet? Any effective counters? I'm thinking about Vibro cannons, since they're supposed to automatically hit everything in their line of fire...
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:45 am
DarkElf27 Has anybody had a chance to go toe-to-toe with flyers with their Eldar yet? Any effective counters? I'm thinking about Vibro cannons, since they're supposed to automatically hit everything in their line of fire... Vibro cannons do not have the "sky fire" rule, however I do not have access to an Eldar codex, so can't wholly comment on this. But Str 4 AP - is not what I'd call a good ack-ack weapon. wink
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:47 am
Lt. Brookman DarkElf27 Has anybody had a chance to go toe-to-toe with flyers with their Eldar yet? Any effective counters? I'm thinking about Vibro cannons, since they're supposed to automatically hit everything in their line of fire... Vibro cannons do not have the "sky fire" rule, however I do not have access to an Eldar codex, so can't wholly comment on this. But Str 4 AP - is not what I'd call a good ack-ack weapon. wink Aye, but vibro cannons do not roll to hit their targets, either; you draw a straight line, and every unit touched takes a certain randomized number of hits if I recall correctly. Also they come in batteries of up to 3, with each additional platform adding 1 to the strength, I believe.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:53 am
DarkElf27 Lt. Brookman DarkElf27 Has anybody had a chance to go toe-to-toe with flyers with their Eldar yet? Any effective counters? I'm thinking about Vibro cannons, since they're supposed to automatically hit everything in their line of fire... Vibro cannons do not have the "sky fire" rule, however I do not have access to an Eldar codex, so can't wholly comment on this. But Str 4 AP - is not what I'd call a good ack-ack weapon. wink Aye, but vibro cannons do not roll to hit their targets, either; you draw a straight line, and every unit touched takes a certain randomized number of hits if I recall correctly. Also they come in batteries of up to 3, with each additional platform adding 1 to the strength, I believe. This is a rare moment where I get to be a**l then. wink Are Vibro cannons artillery? If so, they cannot hit flyers, as only snap shots can hit those and artillery cannot perform snap shots.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:55 am
Ah, found the 40k FAQ: Quote: Q: Can Vibro Cannons hit Zooming Flyers or Swooping Flying Monstrous Creatures, if the line drawn by the Eldar player touches these models? (p45) A: No. They can, however, hit Hovering Flyers and Gliding Flying Monstrous Creatures. Sorry for bursting that bubble! sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:02 am
Lt. Brookman Ah, found the 40k FAQ: Quote: Q: Can Vibro Cannons hit Zooming Flyers or Swooping Flying Monstrous Creatures, if the line drawn by the Eldar player touches these models? (p45) A: No. They can, however, hit Hovering Flyers and Gliding Flying Monstrous Creatures. Sorry for bursting that bubble! sweatdrop No worries, it's good to know! I'm not a fan of weapon platform squads anyway. Perhaps some psyker powers for re-rolls or such would help, and then just use massed-fire batteries like Warwalker squads with scatter lasers (a whopping 24 S6 shots for 180 points IIRC) to try and take them down.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:07 am
DarkElf27 Lt. Brookman Ah, found the 40k FAQ: Quote: Q: Can Vibro Cannons hit Zooming Flyers or Swooping Flying Monstrous Creatures, if the line drawn by the Eldar player touches these models? (p45) A: No. They can, however, hit Hovering Flyers and Gliding Flying Monstrous Creatures. Sorry for bursting that bubble! sweatdrop No worries, it's good to know! I'm not a fan of weapon platform squads anyway. Perhaps some psyker powers for re-rolls or such would help, and then just use massed-fire batteries like Warwalker squads with scatter lasers (a whopping 24 S6 shots for 180 points IIRC) to try and take them down. If their shots can be boosted with re-rolls I'd say go for it, as only '6's hit when dealing with flyers using non-AA units.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:08 am
Lt. Brookman If their shots can be boosted with re-rolls I'd say go for it, as only '6's hit when dealing with flyers using non-AA units. I hear a rumor that ranges are also reduced for snap-shots against flyers?
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:16 am
DarkElf27 Lt. Brookman If their shots can be boosted with re-rolls I'd say go for it, as only '6's hit when dealing with flyers using non-AA units. I hear a rumor that ranges are also reduced for snap-shots against flyers? As far as I can remember no range reduction, though blast and template weapons obviously do not work against them.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:22 am
Lt. Brookman DarkElf27 Lt. Brookman If their shots can be boosted with re-rolls I'd say go for it, as only '6's hit when dealing with flyers using non-AA units. I hear a rumor that ranges are also reduced for snap-shots against flyers? As far as I can remember no range reduction, though blast and template weapons obviously do not work against them. Aww, no AA flamers, huh? whee
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 9:03 am
So with semi-official word that the codex update is happening this weekend, what are people excited for with the new book and minis? I'm hoping that they'll sneak an updated plastic kit for some Aspect Warriors other than Dire Avengers, which already have a very good plastic kit.
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 9:41 am
DarkElf27 So with semi-official word that the codex update is happening this weekend, what are people excited for with the new book and minis? I'm hoping that they'll sneak an updated plastic kit for some Aspect Warriors other than Dire Avengers, which already have a very good plastic kit. Hate to destroy dreams, but I posted the official release list in that thread over there, Mel confirmed it as being the real deal. 3nodding
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 9:43 am
Vikki Keeler DarkElf27 So with semi-official word that the codex update is happening this weekend, what are people excited for with the new book and minis? I'm hoping that they'll sneak an updated plastic kit for some Aspect Warriors other than Dire Avengers, which already have a very good plastic kit. Hate to destroy dreams, but I posted the official release list in that thread over there, Mel confirmed it as being the real deal. 3nodding Maybe GW managed to keep something secret for once, I can always hope. whee
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 9:51 am
DarkElf27 Vikki Keeler DarkElf27 So with semi-official word that the codex update is happening this weekend, what are people excited for with the new book and minis? I'm hoping that they'll sneak an updated plastic kit for some Aspect Warriors other than Dire Avengers, which already have a very good plastic kit. Hate to destroy dreams, but I posted the official release list in that thread over there, Mel confirmed it as being the real deal. 3nodding Maybe GW managed to keep something secret for once, I can always hope. whee Its all from the white dwarf. emotion_yatta
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Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:20 am
Am I crazy, or are they charging the same amount for a 5-man repackaged box of Dire Avengers that they did for the 10-man squad before? stare
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