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 Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 9:36 am
Most teens only do it because of:
1. They think their boyfriend/girlfriend will stay with them (not true)
2. They think "everyone's doing it anyway, it'll make me more popular!"
3. They think it's fun.
4. Curiosity
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:34 am
So wait...
Can someone explain the topic for today?
I'm seeing teen sex, and then a huge discussion about God.
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 10:51 am
AmErIcAnSyKo So wait...
Can someone explain the topic for today?
I'm seeing teen sex, and then a huge discussion about God.
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 11:02 am
Rubbery duck Cornetto1 yokomotoz Cornetto1 Tell me, how will there not be confrontation, isolation and conflict if you take three people, tell each of them that there is only one god, and only by that god will anyone get into heaven and all others are sinners. Each believes their god blindly. Then you put the three of them in an enclosed room together to replecate what would happen on a much larger scale. The very concept of a higher being revolves around an impossible neanderthol explenation to an equally impossible question. Morals were NOT established by religion, there have been many scientific studies into morality, certain species of animals closely related to humans show morals. Morality is not born from a fear of being judged in the afterlife, nor is it born from sucking upto a pixie in the clouds, morality is a naturally occuring and continuously evolving phenomenon. Many biblical morals are now very outdated and that causes a lot of conflict, mostly in the area of homosexuality and birth control. I believe there is a passage in the old testement that explicitly states that anyone who tries to steer you away from god should be stoned to death, that you should viciously murder him in any way possible. confused Religion IS blind faith, god IS blind faith. There is no proof nor evidence, therefore it is FAITH. Regardless of whom you follow, a preacher, a holy book or the product of your own overactive imagination and the unanswerable questions of life and death Quote: when one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion
The three people have been misled for one thing. Let me make it abundantly clear to all who don't understand that the God that Jews follow, the God that Christians follow, and the God that Muslims follow is the same one. Religion is far from blind faith, it is one of the main balancing factors to what civilization is. Belief in an afterlife and to a God can be dated all the way back to the oldest laws in man. It is Hammurabi's law code that also establishes a set of rules and morality based on the judgment of the Gods. It is in our nature to be wondering if there is a God. If you would like proof take a look and read the Quran and the Torah for yourself it speaks of science YES SCIENCE THE VERY THING ATHEISTS SAY IS THE ONE PROOF. They cover the fetus formation, sperm deciding gender, mountain formation. All concepts only recently discovered within the last century and a half are discussed almost a millennium earlier . These barbaric principles as you call them are the very basis of human culture today, chemistry, birth control and contraception, free education to women are all encouraged in the Quran and Torah (SHOCKING!!). The only problem is human spite and misinterpretation. Without the aid of a belief in God we would be nomadic people still. Religion and belief in something is what brings an entire culture together and eventually builds civilizations. Also as said earlier much of the Bible is mistranslated, misconstrued, and many of its text destroyed or denied entrance into the text of the Bible. The Church only allowed such passages to make the people fear them and to have an excuse to make examples of people. That does not prove religions terrible qualities, it only further proves the evils of human greed and lust for power.
Faith, that is an interesting topic. When you are raised in a nice little barrio in Queensbridge, Compton, Vancouver, the Bronx and the only thing that you can look to so that you try to avoid crime is an afterlife of reward I doubt you would have much time for atheism. Because once thats gone thats when crime comes and reigns hence the MS13, the Bloods, the Crips, the Latin Kings. When faith is lost, it gives way to a breakdown of a system. This is established historically yes HISTORICALLY in the cases of Egypt, Greece, Rome, China, India, Nepal, and many other places. So tell me if it keeps people from committing acts of rape, homicide, and extortion can it be considered insane?I'm not interested in what any ancient texts say about science. There is a distinct difference between science and ancient text. Science is evolving, there are constant advancements and EVERYTHING is questioned. In religion there is a book written thousands of years ago which no one may change lest their immortal souls be ripped apart over and over for all eternity, people who don't believe, burn. Richard dawkins on yaweh, the god of the old testement Quote: arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction. Jealous and proud of it, a petty, unjust, unforgiving control freak, a vindictive bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser, a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully. Religion does not, never has and never will further ANYTHING. becuase religion is stationary, it does not change, there is a book and rules and that is it. Nothing else. No questions asked. The reason we don't commit acts of rape, homicide and extortion is not because of religion at all! As humans morals are engrained into our beings not through religion, but because we do not wish to create nor live in the kind of society in which those things happen! The same behaviour can be seem throughout the small scale societies of animals such as apes. Now I doubt that they believe in a god and actively worship it beyond question. Hahaha...
Have you EVER read anything about the "Scientology" religion?
"If someone wrote it, it means something"..
Go spend 5 minutes on www.wikipedia.com reading about scientology really quickly, and tell me if that "means something" to you.
My take?
So far, reading what I have in this quote, I have to say that my belief still stands. Religion was made to comfort those who feared things they did not understand, back in ancient times.. Then, as civilizations became more advanced, more greedy, the powers that be, created religions like Christianity, that threatened eternal suffering if one was to commit any acts against this "God". Think how all the old religions of equality and such, were basically wiped out when Christianity came to be.. Those in charge quickly adopted this new "law", to keep everyone in line, to keep them in check with fear..
I'm not going to say anymore on the subject until I read more of this discussion..
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 11:15 am
yokomotoz Cornetto1 yokomotoz Cornetto1 How is that a contradiction? I am not saying that everyone who is religous is bad, I am saying that the concept and the people running it are. the majority of People are only religious because of the family they are born into, for most of history it has been a great taboo to even suggest that religion is wrong. Quote: If your brother, the son of your father or of your mother, or your son or daughter, or the spouse whom you embrace, or your most intimate friend, tries to secretly seduce you, saying, "Let us go and serve other gods," unknown to you or your ancestors before you, gods of the peoples surrounding you, whether near you or far away, anywhere throughout the world, you must not consent, you must not listen to him; you must show him no pity, you must not spare him or conceal his guilt. No, you must kill him, your hand must strike the first blow in putting him to death and the hands of the rest of the people following. You must stone him to death, since he has tried to divert you from Yahweh your God. . . .(Deuteronomy 13:7–11) Religion should be allowed to be critisised just the same as anything else, it is an IDEA, and should be treated the same way as all other ideas. Of course bringing up a child into a faith is wrong! Faith should be found not forcefed. If people want to believe fine! it's up to them, they should just leave other people out of it, everywhere we go in todays society you see people trying to convert you. Science promotes the truth. If you don't want that fine! I don't care. If you want to feel secure that a god loves you and you want to waste time in this life to make the next life which may or may not exist better for yourself, great. But if you want truth with evidence and continual exploration and adaptation, science offers that. In this day and age atheists have morals, we no longer need divine threats and promises to be good people. We can survive without the needless conflict and agrivation of religion. At least there is more evidence on this side of the equation without resorting to bronze age fairy tales
You believe in God and do right you got a chance to get to heaven.
Don't believe in God and no heaven no biggie people no matter what have their reservations and do indulge.
Don't believe in God and there is a heaven and hell you go to hell.
Believe in God nothing there nothing happens.
Now whether or not you believe in God is up to you but to me 3/4 gets me a decent ending so I'm jumping on the bandwagon. Not gonna risk things like that. So you believe in God, because of fear?
If I remember correctly, in one of the texts of the Bible.. God wants you to believe in him because you have faith, not because you fear the concequences of not doing so.. Like you said earlier in the debate, He wants you to FIND Him, not to blindly follow because you're afraid that if you don't, you're going to hell.
To me, that is the same as blasphemy. Believing because you don't want to burn, is the same as not believing at all, don't you agree?
I am not a religous person, but I CANNOT say that I am anti-religous.. I prefer the term agnostic. I'm going through a stage of enlightenment, where I'm broadening my horizons, taking my eyes off of the "Good Book", and reading into science and reason..
I don't really know what the topic question was, but this is my answer:
I don't have an answer.
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 12:02 pm
I believe people really should not have sex until they are at least out of high school/college because if they have sex before they get out of school, how will they take care of a baby if one comes. Also they would be much more responsible once out of school.
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 12:14 pm
The Notebook of DOOM I believe people really should not have sex until they are at least out of high school/college because if they have sex before they get out of school, how will they take care of a baby if one comes. Also they would be much more responsible once out of school. There's plenty of teen parents that make it, and have good lifes with their children. I know a girl who had her baby at 13 years old. The baby is doing great.
But I do believe that you should wait. Sex before 16 years old is sad.. Sex before 18 is irresponsible, but not something uncommon.
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 12:32 pm
I know so many people who had sex under the legal age.
It's wrong. I don't think children, because that's what they still are, should go about having sex at the age of 13. It's growing up too fast. Tresure you're childhood while you still have it ><
But, I also believe people who completly slam having underage sex (not like what I did, but like if a parent finds out and throws the child out of the house or something along those lines) is wrong.
It's the medias fault that children are having sex so young nowaday. So many things are sexually related ><
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Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 1:02 pm
I don't see a problem with underage/teenage sex. If their body has hit puberty and they're sexually developed then why should we tell them they're not ready yet? The risk of STDs and pregnancy is always there and solutions (medication, abortion, adoption) are there too.
Doing something because of peer or media pressure is always wrong, but listening to your body is certainly nothing bad. razz
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 3:46 pm
Miss Almalexia I don't see a problem with underage/teenage sex. If their body has hit puberty and they're sexually developed then why should we tell them they're not ready yet? The risk of STDs and pregnancy is always there and solutions (medication, abortion, adoption) are there too. Doing something because of peer or media pressure is always wrong, but listening to your body is certainly nothing bad. razz It is wrong. You're anywhere from
13-16/17 years old you really don't need that kind of pleasure. You shouldn't
want it either. Kids push growing up WAY to fast and end up regreting it in
the end.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 3:54 pm
I do not see the problem with it. I personally don't but thats only because I want the person to be someone I love just not someone I've been with a few days/weeks and that way I know they love me and there just not another guy out to get it from whoever there with.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 3:59 pm
the wolf girl I do not see the problem with it. I personally don't but thats only because I want the person to be someone I love just not someone I've been with a few days/weeks and that way I know they love me and there just not another guy out to get it from whoever there with. I agree with you on some aspects,
but you have to relize that most kids don't do that for love, its for pleasure.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 4:02 pm
I feel pre-marital sex is fine. When you marry, you should already know whether or not you will enjoy your partner in bed. As for teenagers, it's really their own decision. They need to learn from their mistakes (for those that make mistakes). The average teen does not do it until they feel strongly about the person they are doing it with, therefore that person could be their one.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 4:03 pm
Personally, I haven't had sex yet, (one of the few in my circle of friends), and my friends always poke fun and say that I'm holding out.
Which is true, in fact. I would rather wait to have sex with someone I can see myself being with for a long time, if not my whole life. I doubt I'd be able to handle a baby, so I would take precautions if I was having sex on a constant basis.
I know a girl who is my age (15), and she's already had a baby, and is out of school currently to take care of it. I don't know if she's going to stay out of school, but for her sake, I hope she continues to highschool so she can have a better future.
So for me, I would rather wait another year or two. If it happens, it happens, I guess.
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Posted: Mon May 28, 2007 4:08 pm
@skits- Thats what i mean. I dont want it to be for nothing for anyone. want some one i love. I know this one couple she will do any guy to get what she wants and her bf is the same way. she doesnt even like her bf.
I am the only one of my friends who has never been pregnant or had a missed period scare or a STD scare.
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